Re: stop all bike paths etc please!!

Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> FYI, Muslim groups in the UK have denounced the trial and
> conviction of a schoolteacher in the Sudan, and Islam never had a
> centralized power structure that needed to be reformed - nothing
> corresponding to the Vatican and the Pope. Both religions - Islam
> and Christianity - have their share of extremists, but you'll find
> that most people practicing either religion are sensible.

I do not find the Muslims the least bit sensible about anything
whatsoever.
Their silence on the Islamic terrorist murder rampage is deafening.

Actually, Muslims have condemned terrorists, but the don't have the
sort of heirarchical structure that funnels large amounts of money
to an organization that can run a loud, noisy PR campaign to get a
"message" out.

Please, now you are being just plain ridiculous!

Show us the physical location of the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican,
plus an annual operating budget of said organization. Your lack of
a credible response should make the point.

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If you've ever been in an Islamic country (I have, but not in the
Middle East), you'll find that most people living their are quite
sensible. They may make an appearance at a mosque on Fridays, but
they go about their everyday lives the rest of the week, just as
most Christians go to church on Sunday and keep their religion more
or less confined to that hour of the week. But those are not the
ones you read about in the newspapers.

Muslims are not tolerant of those who are not Muslims. It is a religion of
intolerance and persecution.

In the case I mentioned, nearly everyone I met was a Muslim and they
did not try to force their religion down my throat and did not
persecute me.

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It has everything to do with respect. The Sudan has real problem
right now, but the completely over the top reaction you saw there is
fundamentally no different than a "drive by shooting" resulting from a
kid in an inner-city slum feeling "dissed" over trivia. People like
you are making the situation worse by figuratively throwing salt on a
wound.

Please, spare us your dime store psychology!

Pleas spare us your bigotry and stupidity.

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Everything about the Sudan reeks of barbarism and savagery. And it is all
due to their abominable religion. Did you know that the Muslim Arabs were
the greatest slavers of all time? Hells Bells, I believe some of the Saudis
still keep Negroes as slaves.

Trust me on this - if you are not a Muslim, they view you as beneath
contempt and hardly even human. They would like to see you dead and given
half a chance, they will murder you and chalk it up as their good deed for
the day.

Dolan, you are an idiot.

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Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
>> "Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> > "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
>> >
>> > FYI, Muslim groups in the UK have denounced the trial and
>> > conviction of a schoolteacher in the Sudan, and Islam never had a
>> > centralized power structure that needed to be reformed - nothing
>> > corresponding to the Vatican and the Pope. Both religions - Islam
>> > and Christianity - have their share of extremists, but you'll find
>> > that most people practicing either religion are sensible.
>>
>> I do not find the Muslims the least bit sensible about anything
>> whatsoever.
>> Their silence on the Islamic terrorist murder rampage is deafening.
>
> Actually, Muslims have condemned terrorists, but the don't have the
> sort of heirarchical structure that funnels large amounts of money
> to an organization that can run a loud, noisy PR campaign to get a
> "message" out.

Please, now you are being just plain ridiculous!

Show us the physical location of the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican,
plus an annual operating budget of said organization. Your lack of
a credible response should make the point.

The Saudi regime and Mecca.

The Saudi regime supports the Saudi royal family and is not any sort
of religious body. Mecca is not the location of any sort of governing
body. Try again.

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Quoted message said:

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Please, spare us your dime store psychology!

Pleas spare us your bigotry and stupidity.

Spoken like a true liberal twit!

It's not my fault that you are a mindless bigot.

<rest of this moron's rant snipped>

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On 02 Dec 2007 12:47:09 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

FYI, Muslim groups in the UK have denounced the trial and
conviction of a schoolteacher in the Sudan, and Islam never had a
centralized power structure that needed to be reformed - nothing
corresponding to the Vatican and the Pope. Both religions - Islam
and Christianity - have their share of extremists, but you'll find
that most people practicing either religion are sensible.

I do not find the Muslims the least bit sensible about anything whatsoever.
Their silence on the Islamic terrorist murder rampage is deafening.

Actually, Muslims have condemned terrorists, but the don't have the
sort of heirarchical structure that funnels large amounts of money
to an organization that can run a loud, noisy PR campaign to get a
"message" out.

If you've ever been in an Islamic country (I have, but not in the
Middle East), you'll find that most people living their are quite
sensible. They may make an appearance at a mosque on Fridays, but
they go about their everyday lives the rest of the week, just as
most Christians go to church on Sunday and keep their religion more
or less confined to that hour of the week. But those are not the
ones you read about in the newspapers.

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What is transpiring in the Sudan and elsewhere in the Muslim world does not
have anything do with respect, self-respect or any of that kind of liberal
[censored].

It has everything to do with respect. The Sudan has real problem
right now, but the completely over the top reaction you saw there is
fundamentally no different than a "drive by shooting" resulting from a
kid in an inner-city slum feeling "dissed" over trivia. People like
you are making the situation worse by figuratively throwing salt on a
wound.

So we shouldn't talk about bad things that are going on -- just look
the other way, like you do? That's sick.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:57:51 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
> >
> > FYI, Muslim groups in the UK have denounced the trial and
> > conviction of a schoolteacher in the Sudan, and Islam never had a
> > centralized power structure that needed to be reformed - nothing
> > corresponding to the Vatican and the Pope. Both religions - Islam
> > and Christianity - have their share of extremists, but you'll find
> > that most people practicing either religion are sensible.
>
> I do not find the Muslims the least bit sensible about anything
> whatsoever.
> Their silence on the Islamic terrorist murder rampage is deafening.

Actually, Muslims have condemned terrorists, but the don't have the
sort of heirarchical structure that funnels large amounts of money
to an organization that can run a loud, noisy PR campaign to get a
"message" out.

Please, now you are being just plain ridiculous!

Show us the physical location of the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican,
plus an annual operating budget of said organization. Your lack of
a credible response should make the point.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you've ever been in an Islamic country (I have, but not in the
Middle East), you'll find that most people living their are quite
sensible. They may make an appearance at a mosque on Fridays, but
they go about their everyday lives the rest of the week, just as
most Christians go to church on Sunday and keep their religion more
or less confined to that hour of the week. But those are not the
ones you read about in the newspapers.

Muslims are not tolerant of those who are not Muslims. It is a religion of
intolerance and persecution.

In the case I mentioned, nearly everyone I met was a Muslim and they
did not try to force their religion down my throat and did not
persecute me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It has everything to do with respect. The Sudan has real problem
right now, but the completely over the top reaction you saw there is
fundamentally no different than a "drive by shooting" resulting from a
kid in an inner-city slum feeling "dissed" over trivia. People like
you are making the situation worse by figuratively throwing salt on a
wound.

Please, spare us your dime store psychology!

Pleas spare us your bigotry and stupidity.

Quoted message said:

Everything about the Sudan reeks of barbarism and savagery. And it is all
due to their abominable religion. Did you know that the Muslim Arabs were
the greatest slavers of all time? Hells Bells, I believe some of the Saudis
still keep Negroes as slaves.

Trust me on this - if you are not a Muslim, they view you as beneath
contempt and hardly even human. They would like to see you dead and given
half a chance, they will murder you and chalk it up as their good deed for
the day.

Dolan, you are an idiot.

As opposed to you, who can't spell his own name properly? Thanks for
the laugh.

"My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB"
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman said:

On 02 Dec 2007 12:47:09 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It has everything to do with respect. The Sudan has real problem
right now, but the completely over the top reaction you saw there is
fundamentally no different than a "drive by shooting" resulting from a
kid in an inner-city slum feeling "dissed" over trivia. People like
you are making the situation worse by figuratively throwing salt on a
wound.

So we shouldn't talk about bad things that are going on -- just look
the other way, like you do? That's sick.

No, Mikey, you shouldn't talk about it when all you can say is that a
class of people should be exterminated. Dolan is the really sick guy
in this discussion. If you feel compelled to defend that idiot, you
are as sick as he is.

There are seneible things that can be said about it. A Muslim
group in the UK apparently made a fairly sensible statement about
it, condemning what went on in the Sudan, but without calling for
anyone's extermination.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Mike Vandeman said:

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:57:51 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

Dolan, you are an idiot.

As opposed to you, who can't spell his own name properly? Thanks for
the laugh.

"My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB"

Vanderman apparently can't read.

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Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Show us the physical location of the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican,
> plus an annual operating budget of said organization. Your lack of
> a credible response should make the point.

The Saudi regime and Mecca.

The Saudi regime supports the Saudi royal family and is not any sort
of religious body. Mecca is not the location of any sort of governing
body. Try again.

These things are mixed together in the Muslim world. The Saudi are the
instigators of extremism itself (Wahabism) and they fund it all over the
world. Mecca is the font from which all the evil in the world flows. An atom
bomb planted there would really do some good!
[...]

Dolan is an idiot.

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Edward Dolan said:

"Bill Z." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On 02 Dec 2007 12:47:09 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)
wrote:

>"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
>

Quoted message said:

>It has everything to do with respect. The Sudan has real problem
>right now, but the completely over the top reaction you saw there is
>fundamentally no different than a "drive by shooting" resulting from a
>kid in an inner-city slum feeling "dissed" over trivia. People like
>you are making the situation worse by figuratively throwing salt on a
>wound.

So we shouldn't talk about bad things that are going on -- just look
the other way, like you do? That's sick.

No, Mikey, you shouldn't talk about it when all you can say is that a
class of people should be exterminated. Dolan is the really sick guy
in this discussion. If you feel compelled to defend that idiot, you
are as sick as he is.

I think the entire Old World should be done away with. Enough of the Eastern
Hemisphere! Only the New World (the Western Hemisphere) should survive the
21st century. That is why the US should carpet bomb with atom bombs all the
lands of the Muslims. This would effectively get rid of la belle France and
various other roguish nations which have ever shown in recent years only how
to betray Western Civilization.

If we have at least one atom bomb left over, I suggest we drop it on
Milwaukee because that is where Tom Sherman lives. It is not too high a
price to pay for all good Milwaukeeans to perish in order to be rid of Tom
Sherman. We will just chalk it up to collateral damage.

Quoted message said:

There are seneible things that can be said about it. A Muslim
group in the UK apparently made a fairly sensible statement about
it, condemning what went on in the Sudan, but without calling for
anyone's extermination.

What a liberal twit Bill Z is! He can't bring himself to say one critical
thing about Muslims who rampage and murder innocents all over the world.

Dolan is an idiot.

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My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

On 02 Dec 2007 20:35:38 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:57:51 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:

Dolan, you are an idiot.

As opposed to you, who can't spell his own name properly? Thanks for
the laugh.

"My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB"

Vanderman apparently can't read.

If you could read, you would have learned how to spell my name.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman said:

On 02 Dec 2007 20:35:38 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:57:51 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)
wrote:

>"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
>
>Dolan, you are an idiot.

As opposed to you, who can't spell his own name properly? Thanks for
the laugh.

"My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB"

Vanderman apparently can't read.

If you could read, you would have learned how to spell my name.

If you had half a brain, you'd know the difference between being
able to read and being able to type accurately, not that your
name is worth any effort anyway.

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My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Mike Vandeman said:

On 04 Dec 2007 08:36:13 -0800, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)

Quoted message said:

If you think Dolan is "brilliant", you are as dumb as he is.

At least he can spell his own name. That alone puts him head and
shoulders above you.

Liar.

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