Re: Software for dieting & exercise

GaryG said:

That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP of
the mail server that the message was first posted to.

That is incorrect on two counts. First, usenet messages are posted to a *NEWS*
server, not a mail server. Second, the NNTP posting host is the address of the
machine on which the usenet client is running on, it is not the address of the
server. Now it's true that several people could post from the same post, for
example, if they're running a news client on a remote unix host like I do ...
but in this case, he's running outlook express. It's also true that with
dynamic IP addresses, it's possible that two different people could use the
same address to post at different times -- but much less probable than it would
be if everyone from the same ISP had the same NNTP posting host field.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:50:46 -0800, GaryG <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
question. See below.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:50:49 GMT, Joseph Scully

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> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it,

asap.

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> I have had a few attempts at trying to lose weight, but without

success.

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I

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> am looking for some software that I can use to help track my

progress,

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and

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> record my diet and exercise, and be able to monitor my progress.
>
> Can anyone recommend something??

Paul, I can recommend to disclose right away that you are advertising
your own website.

dakware.com is owner by Paul Aspinall. Recent posts by Paul Aspinall
such as

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

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come from 82.42.53.187.

"Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187

That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP

of

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the mail server that the message was first posted to. But, it does not

tell

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us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same

host.

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That is not correct. NNTP-Posting-Host is the IP address of the computer
that submitted the message to the news server.

82.42.53.187 resolves to
82-42-53-187.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk, which is customer
premises equipment for a UK cable internet ISP. That's where the
message originated from.

82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.

i

Thanks, Ig. I don't recall where I heard that, but clearly it's incorrect.

I like to learn at least one new thing every day, and thanks to you, I've
learned my new thing for today.

GG

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GG

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> I have found this product, but have not yet purchased it.
> www.dakware.com

no [censored], if you purchased your own product, you would definitely need
to go on serious medications.

> I like the idea of being able to use the PDA, as I need a machine to

remind

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> me, and organise me.
>
> I would be grateful if anyone could offer any help.

My suggestion for you would be to do what GaryG is doing, which is
genuinely participating in newsgroups, but mentioning your site at
proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
making false posts.

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"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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GaryG said:

That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP

of

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the mail server that the message was first posted to.

That is incorrect on two counts. First, usenet messages are posted to a

*NEWS*

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server, not a mail server. Second, the NNTP posting host is the address of

the

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machine on which the usenet client is running on, it is not the address of

the

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server. Now it's true that several people could post from the same post,

for

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example, if they're running a news client on a remote unix host like I do

....

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but in this case, he's running outlook express. It's also true that with
dynamic IP addresses, it's possible that two different people could use

the

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same address to post at different times -- but much less probable than it

would

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be if everyone from the same ISP had the same NNTP posting host field.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Thanks for the heads-up. I've learned my new thing for today.

GG

GaryG said:

"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:50:46 -0800, GaryG <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
>this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
>question. See below.
>
>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:50:49 GMT, Joseph Scully

<[email hidden]> wrote:

>>Hi
>>I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it,

asap.

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>>I have had a few attempts at trying to lose weight, but without

success.

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I

>>am looking for some software that I can use to help track my

progress,

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and

>>record my diet and exercise, and be able to monitor my progress.
>>
>>Can anyone recommend something??
>
>Paul, I can recommend to disclose right away that you are advertising
>your own website.
>
>dakware.com is owner by Paul Aspinall. Recent posts by Paul Aspinall
>such as
>
>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

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>come from 82.42.53.187.
>
>"Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:
>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187

That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP

of

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the mail server that the message was first posted to. But, it does not

tell

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us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same

host.

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That is not correct. NNTP-Posting-Host is the IP address of the computer
that submitted the message to the news server.

82.42.53.187 resolves to
82-42-53-187.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk, which is customer
premises equipment for a UK cable internet ISP. That's where the
message originated from.

82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.

port 25 is the DEFAULT port for SMTP not the required one.

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i

Thanks, Ig. I don't recall where I heard that, but clearly it's incorrect.

I like to learn at least one new thing every day, and thanks to you, I've
learned my new thing for today.

GG

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GG

>>I have found this product, but have not yet purchased it.
>>www.dakware.com
>
>no [censored], if you purchased your own product, you would definitely need
>to go on serious medications.
>
>
>>I like the idea of being able to use the PDA, as I need a machine to

remind

>>me, and organise me.
>>
>>I would be grateful if anyone could offer any help.
>
>My suggestion for you would be to do what GaryG is doing, which is
>genuinely participating in newsgroups, but mentioning your site at
>proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
>making false posts.
>

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Ignoramus5106 said:

Buck Naked said:

GaryG said:

"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

>>>come from 82.42.53.187.
>>>
>>>"Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:
>>>
>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187
>>
>>That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP

of

>>the mail server that the message was first posted to. But, it does not

tell

>>us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same

host.

>That is not correct. NNTP-Posting-Host is the IP address of the computer
>that submitted the message to the news server.
>
>82.42.53.187 resolves to
>82-42-53-187.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk, which is customer
>premises equipment for a UK cable internet ISP. That's where the
>message originated from.
>
>82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
>email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.

port 25 is the DEFAULT port for SMTP not the required one.

R F C 821 says:

`` The SMTP transmission channel is a TCP connection established
between the sender process port U and the receiver process port L.
This single full duplex connection is used as the transmission
channel. This protocol is assigned the service port 25 (31 octal),
that is L=25.''

what's your point? i said it was the default and you point to the RFC
that says it's the default. are you trying to say that SMTP is required
to run on port 25? clearly, it is the default. it is often implemented
on a different port to deter access.

jesus, this is why we need to crack down on issuing green cards.

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Ignoramus5106 said:

Buck Naked said:

Ignoramus5106 said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:42 -0500, Buck Naked <[email hidden]> wrote:

>GaryG wrote:
>
>
>>"Ignoramus25277" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>come from 82.42.53.187.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:
>>>>>
>>>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187
>>>>
>>>>That is suspicious, but not conclusive. The NNTP posting host is the IP
>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>
>>>>the mail server that the message was first posted to. But, it does not
>>
>>tell
>>
>>
>>
>>>>us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same
>>
>>host.
>>
>>
>>
>>>That is not correct. NNTP-Posting-Host is the IP address of the computer
>>>that submitted the message to the news server.
>>>
>>>82.42.53.187 resolves to
>>>82-42-53-187.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk, which is customer
>>>premises equipment for a UK cable internet ISP. That's where the
>>>message originated from.
>>>
>>>82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
>>>email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.
>
>port 25 is the DEFAULT port for SMTP not the required one.

R F C 821 says:

`` The SMTP transmission channel is a TCP connection established
between the sender process port U and the receiver process port L.
This single full duplex connection is used as the transmission
channel. This protocol is assigned the service port 25 (31 octal),
that is L=25.''

what's your point? i said it was the default and you point to the RFC
that says it's the default. are you trying to say that SMTP is required
to run on port 25? clearly, it is the default. it is often implemented
on a different port to deter access.

No, it does not say that it is "default", it says that it is
"assigned", period. That's the port that mail servers use to accept
mail from all over the world.

most mail servers do use that port. not using it does not mean it is not
a mail server.

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jesus, this is why we need to crack down on issuing green cards.

port 25 would still be the SMTP port, even if you cracked down on
issuing green cards.

but you'd be busy driving a cab and i wouldnt have to read your nonsense.

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