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  1. I'm a unicycler of 2.5 months, but am level 4 and looking to go off
    road
    I'm getting a MUni, either a KH '05 or a bedford w/ KH wheelset
    I'm really stuck w/ a dillema about whether or not to get brakes
    I have mountain biked for 5 years, and as soon as i get a MUni i wanna
    go offroad
    I don't know if i should spend $150 up front to get brakes
    pre-installed, or whether i should just wait and see if i need them
    i've heard they help on even long, gradual descents, not just
    super-steep
    is this true?
    can i please get some advice?
    thanks

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  2. Uhh, what part of the bay area do you live in, for one thing. I am in
    SF, and if you're looking for muni buddies, I can put you on the mailing
    list for the local muni rides we do. We usually hit Santa Cruz or
    Sacramento, although we've also been known to do rides in Marin, Tildon
    Park, and the Berkeley hills.

    This is related to teh brakes because there has been some thought on
    buying a set of magura brakes on ebay for around $50 and then the people
    split the bill and each take 1 brake. Ebay almost always has a set of
    magura hs-33s for sale for very low prices. I would reccomend getting
    the brake bosses but not the brakes, and then see if you need them. In
    my 2 years of riding in the Bay Area and California trails (mostly Santa
    Cruz and north), I've never felt any real need for a brake, except
    during major rides at muni weekends.

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  3. get brakes they boost you cpnfidence throught the roof

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  4. Generally speaking I use my brakes in two scenarios:

    Long gradual descents - They are very nice for these and really give
    your legs a break.

    Short steep even bits - I only really use them for occasional steep but
    smooth descents, and also when I want to control my speed down a hill
    before I get to a rough bit. Down anything rough I don't use the brake.
    The really nice thing about using a brake down steep smooth sections is
    that you can focus your concentration more on the direction of your
    wheel, and more importantly the braking action is much smoother and
    distributed evenly rather than in short bursts. Without a brake, what
    you might tend to do on slippery bits is have the wheel slip out from
    under you because you're only applying braking pressure in those little
    bursts when your pedals are lined up right. With a brake, it's all
    smooth so the wheel won't slip out nearly as much.

    I've also occasionally been very glad to have a brake on descending log
    rides. There was one line I did a while back where I rode down a
    reasonably steep log, then had to stop and hop 90 degrees onto a
    perpendicular log...I would not have been able to do this without a
    brake.

    Having said all that, I've just recently changed from 145mm to 160mm
    cranks and have considered taking my brake off the muni because on the
    technical steep stuff I don't use it anyway...but I decided to keep it
    on there.

    Hope that helps,
    Andrew

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  5. Have a look at this thread: 'Brakes on a 24\"?'
    (http://tinyurl.com/3nl7h)

    You can always add the brake later if you decide that you need or want
    it. No need to get the brake right off the bat. Just make sure that
    you get a frame that has the two bolt style Magura brake mounts welded
    on the frame.

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  6. Hi Andrew,

    I agree with you but would like to add that I think brakes are also
    wonderful (if not essential) on very steep AND very technical downhill
    sections.

    I've just spent 3 weeks riding downhill in NZ and it was awesome. I
    found that I had to seriously concentrate on keeping the wheel facing
    directly downhill at ALL times on the really steep sections as just a
    slight turn of the wheel away from perpendicular to the slope/drop would
    result in a slide out. The brake provides time to adjust the wheel
    orientation when millimeters count!

    And then there are just some sections that are so steep that you slip
    and slide down them even with the even pressure of the brake applied....
    but it's lots of fun!

    In NZ I also did a bungy jump while I was there on my KH muni and that
    was .... well.. very interesting (but the brake didn't work too well..
    oh... I suppose they are not "air brakes" though. lol... sorry... corny
    I know).

    I would much prefer to do another Canyon Swing on the uni rather than
    another bungy jump and I recommend anyone who visits Queenstown on the
    south Island of NZ with their uni should do the canyon swing (on the uni
    of course).

    Andrew, will we see you in Darwin from july 1- july 4th this year for
    the Australian unicycle championships? Hope so!

    Take care,

    Deb.

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  7. Hey guys,
    Thanks for your help!
    It seems that it sounds reasonable to get the MUni w/o the brake so I
    can learn steep downhills properly, but if they get too steep or if I do
    super-long fireroad downhills and get super tired, then I'll get a
    brake.

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  8. Hi Deb,

    I was recently in New Zealand too, but on the North Island. I spent a
    day with Tony Melton riding at Woodhill Forest among other places. That
    was really fun. The terrain in NZ is very different to Australia isn't
    it.

    I've found that I can't handle applying the right braking pressure on
    steep stuff with roots, ruts, rocks, and drops on it...but I did find
    that while in NZ it was easier for me because there are smooth patches
    in between the rough stuff (or at least that was the case in Woodhill.
    There was one spot Tony and I were riding that had lots of very loose
    dirt (like riding down sand dunes) and if you went down it without a
    brake you could purposefully slide on every half0rev. Very fun!

    Any pics of muni bungy jumping? Sounds great, I bet you were the first
    one they'd seen to do that.

    I'm really not sure whether or not I'll make it to UniNats...still
    deciding. Hopefully airfares won't be too expensive.

    Andrew

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