re: Sandra Day Occonor

day dreamer@dream .com@ said:

Quoted message said:

bring nail clippers or tweezers on a flight.

You can still bring them. They just go in with your checked luggage
not on your person.

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

--

saerah

"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß

sarah bennett said:

day dreamer@dream .com@ said:

Quoted message said:

bring nail clippers or tweezers on a flight.

You can still bring them. They just go in with your checked luggage
not on your person.

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

A link for the allegded most current list of items 5-16-05
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?theme=177

day dreamer@dream .com@ wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

sarah bennett said:

day dreamer@dream .com@ said:

>bring nail clippers or tweezers on a flight.

You can still bring them. They just go in with your checked
luggage not on your person.

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew
to chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed
to have them in their checked luggage.

My stepson had a pair of nail clippers confiscated at the security
station. They simply took it. His luggage was already checked
(which it usually is by the time you go through security). Of
course, they could send it in a special pouch.

Quoted message said:

A link for the allegded most current list of items 5-16-05
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?theme=177

So what is a rounded-blade knife? One with a rounded tip or one
that's dull? It's not very clear what they mean. And what are
sabers? Do they mean sabres? Who the hell proofreads these things?

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Sarah Bennett wrote about nail clippers or tweezers:

Quoted message said:

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

Either your friend got it wrong or you misunderstood. Those items are
allowed in CHECKED baggage. They're not allowed in carry-on baggage.
Whoever (daydreamer?) posted the link to the TSA web site apparently also
misunderstood, because that list is for items prohibited from CARRY-ON bags,
not from checked bags. It says right on the web site: "You may not bring
these items to security checkpoints without authorization." That means it's
strictly in reference to carry-on bags.

(You're allowed to have *guns* in your checked baggage, fer chrissake, it's
not like they're going to confiscate nail clippers out of it.)

Bob

On 2 Jul 2005 21:28:01 -0500, "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz>

Quoted message said:

Sarah Bennett wrote about nail clippers or tweezers:

Quoted message said:

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

Either your friend got it wrong or you misunderstood. Those items are
allowed in CHECKED baggage. They're not allowed in carry-on baggage.
Whoever (daydreamer?) posted the link to the TSA web site apparently also
misunderstood, because that list is for items prohibited from CARRY-ON bags,
not from checked bags. It says right on the web site: "You may not bring
these items to security checkpoints without authorization." That means it's
strictly in reference to carry-on bags.

(You're allowed to have *guns* in your checked baggage, fer chrissake, it's
not like they're going to confiscate nail clippers out of it.)

Bob

The PDF file shows the items that you can have in checked bags or
carry on with a yes or no under those headings.

In article <[email hidden]>,

sarah bennett said:

day dreamer@dream .com@ said:

Quoted message said:

bring nail clippers or tweezers on a flight.

You can still bring them. They just go in with your checked luggage
not on your person.

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

There's no need to speculate about what's permitted or not for checked
and carry-on luggage for United States flights. All you have to do is
look at http://www.tsa.gov for the information.

Stan said:

There's no need to speculate about what's permitted or not for checked
and carry-on luggage for United States flights. All you have to do is
look at http://www.tsa.gov for the information.

Well, that web site might give the *official* TSA guidelines, but the bottom
line is that they're being applied unevenly by TSA employees who are either
on some kind of power trip or too apathetic to do their job properly. A
good friend of mine routinely carries a stun gun onto airplanes, and she's
never been detained for it. And what's with the official policy regarding
shoes? Some airports, they tell you to remove your shoes and run them
through the X-ray machine no matter what type they are. Other airports let
you wear sneakers through the metal detector, but dress shoes have to be
removed. I think the TSA employees themselves don't know the regulations, so
they just improvise as they go along.

Bob

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

And what's with the official policy regarding
shoes? Some airports, they tell you to remove your shoes and run them
through the X-ray machine no matter what type they are. Other airports let
you wear sneakers through the metal detector, but dress shoes have to be
removed. I think the TSA employees themselves don't know the regulations,
so
they just improvise as they go along.

I don't think that is one of regulations, but of practicality. I has the
same pair of sneakers through a half dozen airports. Leaving Las Vegas it
was suggested to remove shoes. I declined. You know what happened and it
created more of a delay. If they want them off, they come off. It is just
easier

Edwin Pawlowski said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

And what's with the official policy regarding
shoes? Some airports, they tell you to remove your shoes and run them
through the X-ray machine no matter what type they are. Other airports let
you wear sneakers through the metal detector, but dress shoes have to be
removed. I think the TSA employees themselves don't know the regulations,
so
they just improvise as they go along.

I don't think that is one of regulations, but of practicality. I has the
same pair of sneakers through a half dozen airports. Leaving Las Vegas it
was suggested to remove shoes. I declined. You know what happened and it
created more of a delay. If they want them off, they come off. It is just
easier

I don't wait for them to tell me to remove my shoes. They come off
before I get to the bin.

Ed replied to me:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And what's with the official policy regarding
shoes? Some airports, they tell you to remove your shoes and run them
through the X-ray machine no matter what type they are. Other airports
let you wear sneakers through the metal detector, but dress shoes have to
be
removed. I think the TSA employees themselves don't know the regulations,
so they just improvise as they go along.

I don't think that is one of regulations, but of practicality. I has the
same pair of sneakers through a half dozen airports. Leaving Las Vegas it
was suggested to remove shoes. I declined. You know what happened and it
created more of a delay. If they want them off, they come off. It is
just easier

That's the kind of thing I was talking about when I used the phrase "power
trip". The TSA employees can't point to any regulation that requires you to
remove sneakers, because there *isn't* one. But they fervently want you to
realize that you are subject to their whims. If you decline to follow their
"suggestion," you're instantly labeled as a troublemaker, and given the full
treatment simply because you DARED to ignore their "authority."

It's not practicality, it's job ignorance compounded by abuse of power.

Bob

In article <[email hidden]>,

sarah bennett said:

day dreamer@dream .com@ said:

Quoted message said:

bring nail clippers or tweezers on a flight.

You can still bring them. They just go in with your checked luggage
not on your person.

i suppose i could be mistaken. a friend of mine who recently flew to
chicago told me that they were told that they were not allowed to have
them in their checked luggage.

You can download a list of things allowed and not allowed on flights
from the TSA website. Nailclippers are allowed, so are knitting needles
and similar things. I bring a copy of the list with me when I fly on
commercial airlines (which is rare nowadays). However, it is always at
the discretion of the TSA dimwit, so don't raise too much of a fuss, I
guess.

Just a point of interest, I don't know many conservatives who are
thrilled with homeland security or the TSA.

Regards,
Ranee

Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

Bob said:

Ed replied to me:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And what's with the official policy regarding
shoes? Some airports, they tell you to remove your shoes and run them
through the X-ray machine no matter what type they are. Other airports
let you wear sneakers through the metal detector, but dress shoes have to
be
removed. I think the TSA employees themselves don't know the regulations,
so they just improvise as they go along.

I don't think that is one of regulations, but of practicality. I has the
same pair of sneakers through a half dozen airports. Leaving Las Vegas it
was suggested to remove shoes. I declined. You know what happened and it
created more of a delay. If they want them off, they come off. It is
just easier

That's the kind of thing I was talking about when I used the phrase "power
trip". The TSA employees can't point to any regulation that requires you to
remove sneakers, because there *isn't* one. But they fervently want you to
realize that you are subject to their whims. If you decline to follow their
"suggestion," you're instantly labeled as a troublemaker, and given the full
treatment simply because you DARED to ignore their "authority."

It's not practicality, it's job ignorance compounded by abuse of power.

People take garrottes on planes, these days. Damn fools don't have
"garotte" on their list of forbidden weapons.

Lena

and, I tell you, any plane I wanted to get on, I could walk on with a
slingshot. maybe not a good slingshot, but one that would work. not that
I can use a slingshot.