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    Neil Brooks
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    Bob Wheeler said:

    I'm building up a bike using a rather nice vintage steel frame. There is
    more rust inside the tubes than I would like. It all seems to be surface
    rust, since a little steel wool removes it.

    Is there an oil or some rust prevention compound that I could use to
    coat the inside of the tubes to prevent further deterioration, or even
    remove some of what is there now?

    LPS products:

    http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/LubricantsPenetrants.asp

    or http://snipurl.com/fdtj

    FrameSaver available lots of places (ex:
    http://www.branfordbike.com/bikecare/bcare1.html#item3 )

    Quoting from http://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm :

    INTERNAL RUSTPROOFING OF A FRAME
    Unlike some other frame materials, a steel frame does not degrade
    through normal use or simply through age. However, if a steel bike is
    ridden in the rain or is kept outdoors, rust in the inside surfaces of
    the frame tubing can be a problem. A way to check if your frame has
    been damaged by rust is to remove the bottom bracket and look at the
    bottom bracket shell and the tubes. Some rust is normal, but lots of
    rust or significant pitting can be a problem.

    To prevent, or significantly reduce, internal rusting, people spray
    the inside of the tubes with a rust preventative. Two excellent
    products are "Frame Saver" by J. Peter Weigle and "Boeshield T-9"
    developed by Boeing. Frame Saver is available at most pro bike shops
    and over the web. Which to use? Peter Weigle is a custom frame maker
    (support a fellow bike guy). Boeing makes lots of great things, but I
    believe bikes are not included . . .

    A poor-man's solution is to spray the insides with WD-40 penetrating
    oil. It dries to a thin, varnish-like coating that protects the metal.
    Not as good as the two products above, but much better than nothing at
    all. (BTW - because of this drying characteristic, WD-40 should not be
    used as a long-term lubricant.)

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  2. Neil Brooks
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    Neil Brooks said:
    Bob Wheeler said:

    I'm building up a bike using a rather nice vintage steel frame. There is
    more rust inside the tubes than I would like. It all seems to be surface
    rust, since a little steel wool removes it.

    Is there an oil or some rust prevention compound that I could use to
    coat the inside of the tubes to prevent further deterioration, or even
    remove some of what is there now?

    LPS products:

    http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/Lubricants/LubricantsPenetrants.asp

    Better link for the LPS-3:

    http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/CorrosionInh/Lps3.asp

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    hhmmmmm!
    the stuff mentioned is no better than rusto's mail box saver.
    the stuff is a temporary fix while you getb your act together to take
    the frame to a professional metal guy and have the tubes stripped clean
    with caustic and boiling water
    then immediatedly painted with a pro primer.
    the mail box saver is a phosphate treatment (for steel boats where
    using the dremel and hand pick tends to be inconvieneint) that produces
    a skim of non rust over the rust then adds latex as an impermeable
    vapor barrier (like alkyd but without the oil based layer) but ponder
    latex is waterborn-gives rust with O2)
    the rusto works but its temporary. i ssume the weigle is similar.
    linseed oil thinned then covered with white farm rusto thinned works
    better than the rusto mail box saver. phosphate straight then rinsed
    with boiling water... its gets complicated.
    a pro knows!!

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    for the linseed-need to do this on a hot day allowing the frame to cook
    water out.
    gotta let the linseed dry before appllying the farm rusto. farm rusto
    is better than consumer no patience rusto. the manure spreader gets
    paint then is allowed to sit under the sun to dry
    until august

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  5. Email address hidden
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    ima talking to muhself agin.
    the deal with the quick fix is do you trust or believe whyjell's intent
    to sell the stuuf YOU NEED IN A CAN????
    or to make a profit selling stuff to you in a can.
    like what in tarnation could wyejell put in a can that yawl can't pour
    in urself?
    like i wuz looking for very finely ground zinc powder to ix into the
    thinned linseed.
    you name it.

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  6. Neil Brooks
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    ima talking to muhself agin.

    Please don't misconstrue the silence.

    Our reverence leaves us speechless.

    Preach, Gene, PREACH!

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