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  1. In conclusion:

    "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Thorsten whom I love, in Lord
    Christ's holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Thorsten Schier said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    Thorsten Schier wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Not so. I said thay don't have many predators and I stay with that
    statement. Of course we could discuss wether we would like to call a
    certain number of predators "many".

    You seem to be backpedalling here.

    Quite the contrary. I stay with what I said. Slugs have a lot less
    enemies than would be expected regarding their slowness. So the bad
    taste is quite effective as a means of protection.

    By the way, when threatend, slugs contract, partly in order to make it
    harder for an enemy to swallow them and partly to protect their delicate
    parts, there eyes and there tentacles. A slug can't do both: contract
    and run away from an enemy. They don't even try to run away. So a little
    more speed would be of no advantage.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Btw., bees are a lot faster than slugs. They can even fly and they have
    a sting to defend themselves.

    And yet, they have a number of predators. For example the bee-eater, the
    bee wolf and the bee beetle. And this are only those who specialise in
    eating bees. Other animals like hornets are also known to eat bees.

    So you see, there is no evidence that slugs would be any better of, if
    they were a bit faster.

    You are going to have to make up your mind whether you believe the
    theory of evolution explains why there are traits like speed and
    stingers.

    Of course speed and stings can be an advantage if they fit into the
    animals strategy of survival.

    But even the great speed of the bee is no perfect protection against
    predators. So if you can name animals that hunt slugs that is no proof
    against the effectiveness of their bad taste.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    >>so
    >>there is no theory to be invalidated by these counterexamples.
    >
    >...except for the theory of evolution.
    >

    Hardly.

    Then why are you objecting?

    Could you frame this answer in the context of the discussion? I'm not
    sure what is your point here.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    >>As you have nothing to say to rest of my post, I assume that you agree
    >>with what I wrote.
    >
    >
    >You assume incorrectly.
    >

    Then you should have objected to what I wrote.

    There is no need to object when you've not made your case.

    Closed eyes? Selective perception? Still in denial?

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  2. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
    yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda,
    blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah,
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    yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew

    Quoted message said:
    Thorsten Schier said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Thorsten Schier wrote:
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >>> Not so. I said thay don't have many predators and I stay
    >>> with that statement. Of course we could discuss wether we
    >>> would like to call a certain number of predators "many".

    Quoted message said:

    > You seem to be backpedalling here.

    Quite the contrary. I stay with what I said. Slugs have a lot less
    enemies than would be expected regarding their slowness. So the bad
    taste is quite effective as a means of protection.

    By the way, when threatend, slugs contract, partly in order to make
    it harder for an enemy to swallow them and partly to protect their
    delicate parts, there eyes and there tentacles. A slug can't do
    both: contract and run away from an enemy. They don't even try to
    run away. So a little more speed would be of no advantage.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> Btw., bees are a lot faster than slugs. They can even fly
    >>> and they have a sting to defend themselves.
    >>>
    >>> And yet, they have a number of predators. For example the
    >>> bee-eater, the bee wolf and the bee beetle. And this are
    >>> only those who specialise in eating bees. Other animals
    >>> like hornets are also known to eat bees.
    >>>
    >>> So you see, there is no evidence that slugs would be any
    >>> better of, if they were a bit faster.
    >
    > You are going to have to make up your mind whether you believe
    > the theory of evolution explains why there are traits like
    > speed and stingers.

    Quoted message said:


    Of course speed and stings can be an advantage if they fit into the
    animals strategy of survival.

    But even the great speed of the bee is no perfect protection
    against predators. So if you can name animals that hunt slugs that
    is no proof against the effectiveness of their bad taste.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>> so there is no theory to be invalidated by these
    >>>>>>> counterexamples.
    >
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ...except for the theory of evolution.
    >>>>>
    >>>
    >>> Hardly.
    >
    >
    > Then why are you objecting?

    Could you frame this answer in the context of the discussion? I'm
    not sure what is your point here.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>> As you have nothing to say to rest of my post, I
    >>>>>>> assume that you agree with what I wrote.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You assume incorrectly.
    >>>>>
    >>> Then you should have objected to what I wrote.

    Quoted message said:

    > There is no need to object when you've not made your case.

    Quoted message said:

    Closed eyes? Selective perception? Still in denial?

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  3. Truth has this effect on the untruthful:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Bob (this one) said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
    yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda,
    blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah,
    blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda,
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    yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew

    Quoted message said:
    Thorsten Schier said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    >> Thorsten Schier wrote:
    >>
    >> <snip>
    >>
    >>>> Not so. I said thay don't have many predators and I stay
    >>>> with that statement. Of course we could discuss wether we
    >>>> would like to call a certain number of predators "many".

    >> You seem to be backpedalling here.

    Quite the contrary. I stay with what I said. Slugs have a lot less
    enemies than would be expected regarding their slowness. So the bad
    taste is quite effective as a means of protection.

    By the way, when threatend, slugs contract, partly in order to make
    it harder for an enemy to swallow them and partly to protect their
    delicate parts, there eyes and there tentacles. A slug can't do
    both: contract and run away from an enemy. They don't even try to
    run away. So a little more speed would be of no advantage.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>> Btw., bees are a lot faster than slugs. They can even fly
    >>>> and they have a sting to defend themselves.
    >>>>
    >>>> And yet, they have a number of predators. For example the
    >>>> bee-eater, the bee wolf and the bee beetle. And this are
    >>>> only those who specialise in eating bees. Other animals
    >>>> like hornets are also known to eat bees.
    >>>>
    >>>> So you see, there is no evidence that slugs would be any
    >>>> better of, if they were a bit faster.
    >>
    >> You are going to have to make up your mind whether you believe
    >> the theory of evolution explains why there are traits like
    >> speed and stingers.

    Quoted message said:


    Of course speed and stings can be an advantage if they fit into the
    animals strategy of survival.

    But even the great speed of the bee is no perfect protection
    against predators. So if you can name animals that hunt slugs that
    is no proof against the effectiveness of their bad taste.

    >>>>>>>> so there is no theory to be invalidated by these
    >>>>>>>> counterexamples.
    >>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ...except for the theory of evolution.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hardly.
    >>
    >>
    >> Then why are you objecting?

    Could you frame this answer in the context of the discussion? I'm
    not sure what is your point here.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>>> As you have nothing to say to rest of my post, I
    >>>>>>>> assume that you agree with what I wrote.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You assume incorrectly.
    >>>>>>
    >>>> Then you should have objected to what I wrote.

    >> There is no need to object when you've not made your case.

    Quoted message said:

    Closed eyes? Selective perception? Still in denial?

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  4. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    In conclusion:

    "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."

    Which is doubtless why you didn't look too well in this discussion. Does
    not look like you have the truth on your side in this case.

    [...]

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  5. The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    truth.

    Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    truth.

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Thorsten whom I love, in Lord
    Christ's holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Thorsten Schier said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    In conclusion:

    "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins** arguments."

    Which is doubtless why you didn't look too well in this discussion. Does
    not look like you have the truth on your side in this case.

    [...]

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  6. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    truth.

    Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    truth.

    What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.

    Regards,

    Thorsten

  7. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
    yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda,
    blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah,
    blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda,
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    yadda, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew

    Quoted message said:
    Thorsten Schier said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    >> Thorsten Schier wrote:
    >>
    >> <snip>
    >>
    >>>> Not so. I said thay don't have many predators and I stay
    >>>> with that statement. Of course we could discuss wether we
    >>>> would like to call a certain number of predators "many".

    >> You seem to be backpedalling here.

    Quite the contrary. I stay with what I said. Slugs have a lot less
    enemies than would be expected regarding their slowness. So the bad
    taste is quite effective as a means of protection.

    By the way, when threatend, slugs contract, partly in order to make
    it harder for an enemy to swallow them and partly to protect their
    delicate parts, there eyes and there tentacles. A slug can't do
    both: contract and run away from an enemy. They don't even try to
    run away. So a little more speed would be of no advantage.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>> Btw., bees are a lot faster than slugs. They can even fly
    >>>> and they have a sting to defend themselves.
    >>>>
    >>>> And yet, they have a number of predators. For example the
    >>>> bee-eater, the bee wolf and the bee beetle. And this are
    >>>> only those who specialise in eating bees. Other animals
    >>>> like hornets are also known to eat bees.
    >>>>
    >>>> So you see, there is no evidence that slugs would be any
    >>>> better of, if they were a bit faster.
    >>
    >> You are going to have to make up your mind whether you believe
    >> the theory of evolution explains why there are traits like
    >> speed and stingers.

    Quoted message said:


    Of course speed and stings can be an advantage if they fit into the
    animals strategy of survival.

    But even the great speed of the bee is no perfect protection
    against predators. So if you can name animals that hunt slugs that
    is no proof against the effectiveness of their bad taste.

    >>>>>>>> so there is no theory to be invalidated by these
    >>>>>>>> counterexamples.
    >>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ...except for the theory of evolution.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hardly.
    >>
    >>
    >> Then why are you objecting?

    Could you frame this answer in the context of the discussion? I'm
    not sure what is your point here.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>>> As you have nothing to say to rest of my post, I
    >>>>>>>> assume that you agree with what I wrote.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You assume incorrectly.
    >>>>>>
    >>>> Then you should have objected to what I wrote.

    >> There is no need to object when you've not made your case.

    Quoted message said:

    Closed eyes? Selective perception? Still in denial?

    Regards,

    Thorsten

    I thought I killfiled [email hidden]. Why are references to his posts
    still in my newsreader?

    Oh...... because people are RESPONDING to them.
    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

    Eew, now *I* just responded! AAAAAAAAAAA

  8. rmg said:


    I thought I killfiled [email hidden]. Why are references to his posts
    still in my newsreader?

    Oh...... because people are RESPONDING to them.
    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

    Eew, now *I* just responded! AAAAAAAAAAA

    And just look at what's all over your shoes...

    EEEeeeeewwwwww

    Pastorio

  9. Jeff schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    truth.

    Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    truth.

    What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.

    This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.

    Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.

    Regards,

    Thorsten

    --
    "Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution"

    (Theodosius Dobzhansky)

  10. Thorsten Schier said:


    Jeff schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:

    >The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    >truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    >truth.
    >
    >Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    >truth.
    >

    What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.

    This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.

    Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.

    I am simply the messenger for the truth:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

    11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
    say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
    because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
    persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Thorsten whom I love, in Lord
    Christ's holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  11. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Thorsten Schier said:

    Jeff schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
    >
    >>The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    >>truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    >>truth.
    >>
    >>Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    >>truth.
    >>
    >What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    >free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    >fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.

    This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.

    Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.

    I am simply the messenger for the truth:

    You are simply the *demonstrator* of the truth. And the truth is that
    you're a sanctimonious fraud.

    And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

    Pastorio

  12. Bob (this one) said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Thorsten Schier said:

    Jeff schrieb:

    >"Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
    >>
    >>>The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    >>>truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    >>>truth.
    >>>
    >>>Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    >>>truth.
    >>>
    >>What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    >>free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    >>fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.
    >
    >This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.

    Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.

    I am simply the messenger for the truth:

    You are simply the *demonstrator* of the truth.

    Sorry, you are wrong.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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  13. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Thorsten Schier wrote:

    >Jeff schrieb:
    >
    >>"Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
    >>>
    >>>>The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    >>>>truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    >>>>truth.
    >>>>
    >>>>Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    >>>>truth.

    Look at Chung judging the outcome of an abstract contest that he makes
    the rules for. <LOL> Clown.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    >>>free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    >>>fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.
    >>
    >>This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.
    >
    >Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.

    I am simply the messenger for the truth:

    You are simply the *demonstrator* of the truth.

    <Original message restored>
    And the truth is that you're a sanctimonious fraud.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, you are wrong.

    Try again, Zippy. This time make an effort at substance. Dazzling
    repartee...

    Pastorio

  14. Bob (this one) said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Thorsten Schier wrote:
    >
    >>Jeff schrieb:
    >>
    >>>"Thorsten Schier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email hidden]...
    >>>
    >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
    >>>>
    >>>>>The truth does not take sides. One chooses to be on the side of the
    >>>>>truth. You would have known this had you been able to discern the
    >>>>>truth.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Please now consider yourself absolutely and utterly vanquished by the
    >>>>>truth.

    Look at Chung judging the outcome of an abstract contest that he makes
    the rules for. <LOL> Clown.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>>What happened is that you ran out of arguments. But by all means, feel
    >>>>free to think it happened the other way round. As long as your religious
    >>>>fanatism shrouds your mind you won't be able to admit otherwise anyway.
    >>>
    >>>This is incorrect. Chung never had a good arguement to start off with.
    >>
    >>Right. But he ran out of even bad arguments surprisingly soon.
    >
    >I am simply the messenger for the truth:

    You are simply the *demonstrator* of the truth.

    <Original message restored>
    And the truth is that you're a sanctimonious fraud.

    As if you could discern the truth, dear Bob:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

    11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
    say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
    because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
    persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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