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Re: Rasmussen out

Simon Brooke · 2007-07-26T21:20:34+00:00

in message , Tony Raven On 2007-07-26, Simon Brooke wrote: Having read around further, it appears that a director of Rabobank (the bank) saw an interview with Davide Cassani on Dutch television last night, and phoned up the team manager and told him to lose Rasmussen. There does not seem to be any other evidence. One of the stories I read said that Rasmussen had admitted to de Rooy that he had lied about his whereabouts. It may be that de Rooy heard about the Cassani interview, confronted Rasmussen, Rasmussen admitted he lied, de Rooy sacked him, Rasmussen had time to compose himself, found out that actually the only evidence he was in Italy is this bit of hearsay from Cassani, and then started telling the press what he wishes he had thought of telling de Rooy at the time, i.e. denying he was in Italy. I think Simon's report is more credible. De Rooy was quoted to be in a high state of agitation before confronting Ramussen. However Rabobank is now saying it was a team and not a sponsor decision. The question that's in my mind is how well did Cassani know Rasmussen, and how close was he when he saw him? He says he saw him 'training in the rain' and he gave two dates. Does that mean he believed he saw him on both days, or that he isn't sure of the date? Furthermore, does this mean he saw a cyclist the width of a carriageway away, or does it mean he cycled alongside and spoke with Rasmussen? Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke with him, that's a different story. Does anyone know? -- [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

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Simon Brooke
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26 July 2007, 21:20 UTC #1

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven
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Ben C said:
On 2007-07-26, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Having read around further, it appears that a director of Rabobank (the
bank) saw an interview with Davide Cassani on Dutch television last
night, and phoned up the team manager and told him to lose Rasmussen.
There does not seem to be any other evidence.
One of the stories I read said that Rasmussen had admitted to de Rooy
that he had lied about his whereabouts. It may be that de Rooy heard
about the Cassani interview, confronted Rasmussen, Rasmussen admitted he
lied, de Rooy sacked him, Rasmussen had time to compose himself, found
out that actually the only evidence he was in Italy is this bit of
hearsay from Cassani, and then started telling the press what he wishes
he had thought of telling de Rooy at the time, i.e. denying he was in
Italy.
I think Simon's report is more credible. De Rooy was quoted to be in a
high state of agitation before confronting Ramussen. However Rabobank
is now saying it was a team and not a sponsor decision.
The question that's in my mind is how well did Cassani know Rasmussen, and
how close was he when he saw him? He says he saw him 'training in the
rain' and he gave two dates. Does that mean he believed he saw him on both
days, or that he isn't sure of the date? Furthermore, does this mean he
saw a cyclist the width of a carriageway away, or does it mean he cycled
alongside and spoke with Rasmussen?
Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and someone
seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to misidentify. On
the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke with him, that's
a different story.
Does anyone know?
--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

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Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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26 July 2007, 23:55 UTC #2

Simon Brooke said:
Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and someone
seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to misidentify. On
the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke with him, that's
a different story.
Quoted message said:
Does anyone know?
Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
Cassina syas the talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
clothes in the rainstorm.
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

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Simon Brooke
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27 July 2007, 08:29 UTC #3

in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
(') said:
Simon Brooke said:
Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
with him, that's a different story.
Quoted message said:
Does anyone know?
Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf SÃ¸rensen.
Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
clothes in the rainstorm.
H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.
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[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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27 July 2007, 10:52 UTC #4

Simon Brooke said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
with him, that's a different story.
Quoted message said:
Does anyone know?
Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
clothes in the rainstorm.
Quoted message said:
H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.
It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
However i don't see that happening. The ASO leads the UCI 2:1
(Rasmussen+Unibet:Astana), and they can play defensivly for the
remaining days of the TDF.
The press won a convinsingly knockout victory, they will be pleased
with themselves for the remaining days.
As for me im sad; the best rider didn't win and he's career is ruined,
because of the war between ASO and UCI - for the first time in +20
years it wasn't race between equals. Shame on them.
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

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27 July 2007, 11:30 UTC #5

On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
Ah. You've moved from denial to anger. Now there's only bargaining,
depression, and acceptance.

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RonSonic
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27 July 2007, 14:33 UTC #6

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:11 +0200, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Simon Brooke said:
Quoted message said:
> Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
> someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
> misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
> with him, that's a different story.
> Does anyone know?
Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
clothes in the rainstorm.
Quoted message said:
H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.
It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
However i don't see that happening. The ASO leads the UCI 2:1
(Rasmussen+Unibet:Astana), and they can play defensivly for the
remaining days of the TDF.
The press won a convinsingly knockout victory, they will be pleased
with themselves for the remaining days.
As for me im sad; the best rider didn't win and he's career is ruined,
because of the war between ASO and UCI - for the first time in +20
years it wasn't race between equals. Shame on them.
You forgot the screech-mob. They'll think they can pick the winners they like
from now on. I don't think ASO has them on a leash. We'll see.
Ron

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Ryan Cousineau
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28 July 2007, 01:00 UTC #7

In article <[email hidden]>,
Quoted message said:
On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
Ah. You've moved from denial to anger. Now there's only bargaining,
depression, and acceptance.
Kubler-Ross really missed out by not including "drinking."
It's helped me a lot,
--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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