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Other than the one under your wig, did you have a point?

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040408164809.22218.00000034@mb-
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(Jan) said:

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I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them
that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a
valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha, Rich

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

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(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them
that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a
valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha, Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!

Rich.@. said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan)

Quoted message said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them
that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a
valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew
about one of your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore
these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a
small core of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member
of our small community. Even if he weren't, I would
support his right to free speech. I extend this courtesy
to Jan Drew as well, even though she has been defaming me
on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is also
somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when
replying to posts should complain about what someone else
does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

--
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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

Which shows how Jan Drew is harrassing other users...

There is a FAQ about the liar Jan Drew :

geocities.comQuackery.htmlOpen ↗

Jan Drew proves himself to be a liar and forger. Jan Drew
abuses the name of god. Jan Drew advertizes for quackery and
charlatanism. To fall for the lies of Jan Drew can be a
terrible risk for the life of you and your children.

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: [email hidden] (I Dream of Ilsa9)
Date: 4/8/2004 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden]

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them
that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a
valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha, Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!

Irrelevant. All Rich and you have done is shown once again
your lowness of character. Rules are rules and have nothing
whatsoever to do with any little plot the *gang* may have.

Sonic.net will make their determination depending on
rules broken.

A pity enablers help others to do wrong.

Thanks once again for showing why I call you the *gang*.

Jan

(Jan) said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, From:
Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 4/8/2004 5:01
PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

Rich.@. said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden]
(Jan) wrote:

>Sent to [email hidden]
>

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform
them that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is
performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew
about one of your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore
these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a
small core of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member
of our small community. Even if he weren't, I would
support his right to free speech. I extend this courtesy
to Jan Drew as well, even though she has been defaming me
on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is also
somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when
replying to posts should complain about what someone else
does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent
here to another newsgroup.

He did not send your post anywhere. You did. If you want to
be able to send your posts here then get a newsreader that
allows you to do it.

And if you respond to this post it will go to alt.test.

Aloha,

Rich

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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, From:
Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 4/8/2004
5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

Rich.@. said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan)
wrote:

>Sent to [email hidden]
>

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform
them that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is
performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew
about one of your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please
ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has
a small core of regular posters, and Mark is a valued
member of our small community. Even if he weren't, I
would support his right to free speech. I extend this
courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she has been
defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It
is also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the
crippled AOL newsreader which strips all except one
newsgroup when replying to posts should complain about
what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent
here to another newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP? Gee
whiz, half of the people on Usenet ought to have their
access yanked then, huh?

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But I am not surprised that you condone wrong. That's what
the *gang* is all about. Furthmore if anyone has been
defamed on this ng, we all know who it is. So once again
you lie, and whine.

You have defamed yourself, just as Andrew Kingoff has, so
look in the mirror.

Jan

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, From:
Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 4/8/2004
5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

Rich.@. wrote:

>On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan)
>wrote:
>
>>Sent to [email hidden]
>>
>
>I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform
>them that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is
>performing a valuable public service.
>
>I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew
about one of your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please
ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative
has a small core of regular posters, and Mark is a
valued member of our small community. Even if he
weren't, I would support his right to free speech. I
extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though
she has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a
long time. It is also somewhat ironical that someone
who uses the crippled AOL newsreader which strips all
except one newsgroup when replying to posts should
complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent
here to another newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP?
Gee whiz, half of the people on Usenet ought to have their
access yanked then, huh?

Only if they disagree with Jan.

snip

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, From:
[email hidden] (Mark) Date: 4/9/2004 8:39 AM
Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<20040408233159.22218.00000069@mb-
m06.aol.com>...

Quoted message said:

>Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, From:
>Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 4/8/2004
>5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
><[email hidden]>
>
>Rich.@. wrote:
>
>>On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Sent to [email hidden]
>>>
>>
>>I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform
>>them that Jan

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable
>>public service.
>>
>>I have already e-mailed them.
>
>Done.
>
>Here is what I said:
>
>You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew
>about one of your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please
>ignore these whines.
>
>Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative
>has a small core of regular posters, and Mark is a
>valued member of our small community. Even if he
>weren't, I would support his right to free speech. I
>extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though
>she has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a
>long time. It is also somewhat ironical that someone
>who uses the crippled AOL newsreader which strips all
>except one newsgroup when replying to posts should
>complain about what someone else does with "Follow-
>up".
>
>Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are
sent here to

another

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Quoted message said:

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newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP?

No, you are confused. Nothing about crossposting.

I know you are busy Mark, but you have a bad habit of
jumping in the

middle of

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a thread, which ends in confusion. Read the whole thread.

Furthnore, Peter speaks of my defaming him. When it is he
who is guilty.

He wrote:

Apart from the anti-vaccination liars, there could be no
more vile collection of anti-medicine bigots than those,
like Jan Drew, who would exploit the tragedy of adolescent
suicide to further their insane agenda against drugs which
enable thousands of people to live safe, useful and
productive lives.

What a piece of work is Jan! how bereft of reason! how
infinite in sophistry! in words and quoting how so sly and
deceitful! in action how like an liar! in comprehension
how like a rock! the nadir of the world! the paragon of
hypocrites!

In response to a news article made by the parents of a
teen ager who

committed

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suicide, in the hopes of helping others.

Sorry, Jan, but that is not defamation, since it is
the truth.

On 09 Apr 2004 03:05:12 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

Note this !:

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Rules are rules and have nothing whatsoever to do with any
little plot the *gang* may have.

One of the rules of scientific medicine is, that all methods
and medicaments must be proven. Please note, that Jan Drew
is heftily fighting against proofs.

What is the reason of a proof of a medicament or a healing
method ? The reason is that if there are 2 medicaments a
patient should be given the better one; if there are 2
healing methods a patient should be given the better one.
Why should a patient be given a bad method if he can have a
good one !?

But Jan Drew is against that. Jan Drew fights against
proofs. Why ? Because Jan Drew is an advertizing agency for
the naturopath mafia. This mafia sells junk, rips off ill
people, risks their life and walks over their bodies.

Postings by Jan Drew :

geocities.comQuackery.htmlOpen ↗

If Jan Drew sees a liar, it is himself, in that very
mirror...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
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und Arbeitslose § Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

ariplex.comamaadmin.htmOpen ↗

(Jan) said:

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent
here to another newsgroup.

That is a blatant lie.

One of the many lies by Jan Drew, the liar. See here :

geocities.comQuackery.htmlOpen ↗

If Jan Drew sees a liar, it is himself, in that very
mirror...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
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und Arbeitslose § Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

ariplex.comamaadmin.htmOpen ↗

Rich.@. said:

He did not send your post anywhere. You did. If you want to
be able to send your posts here then get a newsreader that
allows you to do it.

Well, dear Mr. Rich, Jan Drew so often starts a thread with
"Re:". Obviously Jan Drew does something very strange... If
Jan Drew knows how to do that, Jan Drew is of course
knowledgeable of how to send a posting to a certain
newsgroup.

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And if you respond to this post it will go to alt.test.

You are too soft... ;O)

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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und Arbeitslose § Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

ariplex.comamaadmin.htmOpen ↗

No because he spams the same [censored] over and over again to
this ng. Anth

"I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden]

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform
them that Jan is a troublemaker and that Mark is
performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha, Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!