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    Quercetin downregulates matrix metalloproteinases 2 and 9 proteins
    expression in prostate cancer cells (PC-3).

    Note that quercetin inhibits the xenobiotic
    transporter P-gp and the xenobiotic-metabolizing
    liver enzyme CYP3A4. Because these two enzymes
    represent the major pathways for clearance of
    a wide range of cancer chemotherapy drugs,
    quercetin may magnify the effects and
    side-effects of those drugs. Anyone currently
    on cancer chemotherapy who is considering
    using quercetin should discuss this with their
    physician.

    The following review found quercetin to have
    dual effects: short-term use downregulated
    the activity of the drug clearance enzymes, but
    long-term exposure up-regulated transcriptional
    expression of the genes for these enzymes
    resulting in enhanced activity. Long-term use
    of quercetin in advance of discovery of a cancer
    may therefore be ill-advised, because it may
    enhance resistance to cancer chemotherapy drugs
    (and a wide range of other drugs, including
    birth control hormones, cardiac medications,
    antidepressants, and the anti-organ-rejection
    drug cyclosporin).

    Life Sci. 2006 Mar 27;78(18):2131-45. Epub 2006 Jan 25.
    MDR- and CYP3A4-mediated drug-herbal interactions.
    Pal D, Mitra AK.
    School of Pharmacy, University of Missouri-Kansas
    City, Kansas City, MO 64110-2499, USA.

    According to recent epidemiological reports,
    almost 40% of American population use
    complimentary and alternative medicine (CAM)
    during their lifetime. Patients detected with HIV
    or cancer often consume herbal products especially
    St. John's wort (SJW) for antidepressants in
    combination with prescription medicines. Such
    self-administered herbal products along with
    prescribed medicines raise concerns of therapeutic
    activity due to possible drug-herbal interactions.
    P-glycoprotein (P-gp) and cytochrome P450 3A4
    (CYP3A4) together constitute a highly efficient
    barrier for many orally absorbed drugs. Available
    literature, clinical reports and in vitro studies
    from our laboratory indicate that many drugs and
    herbal active constituents are substrates for both
    P-gp and CYP3A4. Results from clinical studies and
    case reports indicate that self-administered SJW
    reduce steady state plasma concentrations of
    amitriptyline, cyclosporine, digoxin, fexofenadine,
    amprenavir, indonavir, lopinavir, ritonavir,
    saquinavir, benzodiazepines, theophyline,
    irinotecan, midazolan and warfarin. This herbal
    agent has been also reported to cause bleeding
    and unwanted pregnancies when concomitantly
    administered with oral contraceptives. Most of
    these medicinal agents and SJW are substrates
    for P-gp and/or CYP3A4. In vitro studies from
    our laboratory suggest that short-term exposure
    with pure herbal agents such as hypericin,
    kaempferol and quercetin or extract of SJW
    resulted in higher uptake or influx of ritonavir
    and erythromycin. Hypericin, kaempferol and
    quercetin also caused a remarkable inhibition
    of cortisol metabolism with the percent intact
    cortisol values of 64.58%, 89.6% and 90.1%,
    respectively, during short-term in vitro
    experiments. Conversely, long-term exposure of
    herbal agents (hyperforin, kaempferol and
    quercetin) showed enhanced expression of CYP3A4
    mRNA in Caco-2 cells. In another study, we
    observed that long-term exposure of hypericin,
    kaempferol, quercetin and silibinin resulted
    in higher MDR-1 mRNA expression in Caco-2 cells.
    Therefore, herbs can pharmacokinetically act as
    inhibitors or inducers. Medicinal agents that
    are substrates P-gp-mediated efflux and/or
    CYP-mediated metabolism are likely to be
    potential candidates for drug-herbal interactions.
    The duration of exposure of cells/healthy
    volunteers/animals to herbals appears to be
    critical for drug-herbal interaction. An increase
    in plasma drug concentration is possible during
    concomitant administration of SJW and prescribed
    drugs. In contrast, prolonged intake of herbal
    supplement followed by drug administration may
    result in subtherapeutic concentrations. Therefore,
    clinical implications of such drug herbal
    interactions depend on a variety of factors such as
    dose, frequency and timing of herbal intake,
    dosing regimen, route of drug administration and
    therapeutic range. In vitro screening techniques
    will play a major role in identifying possible
    herb-drug interactions and thus create a platform
    for clinical studies to emerge. Mechanisms of
    drug-herbal interaction have been discussed in this
    review article.

  2. Mark Thorson said:
    Quoted post said:


    Quercetin downregulates matrix metalloproteinases 2 and 9 proteins
    expression in prostate cancer cells (PC-3).

    Note that quercetin inhibits the xenobiotic
    transporter P-gp and the xenobiotic-metabolizing
    liver enzyme CYP3A4. Because these two enzymes
    represent the major pathways for clearance of
    a wide range of cancer chemotherapy drugs,
    quercetin may magnify the effects and
    side-effects of those drugs. Anyone currently
    on cancer chemotherapy who is considering
    using quercetin should discuss this with their
    physician.

    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Avoid quercetin because it interfers with chemo?? You've got it
    backwards.

    Quoted message said:

    The following review found quercetin to have
    dual effects: short-term use downregulated
    the activity of the drug clearance enzymes, but
    long-term exposure up-regulated transcriptional
    expression of the genes for these enzymes
    resulting in enhanced activity. Long-term use
    of quercetin in advance of discovery of a cancer
    may therefore be ill-advised, because it may
    enhance resistance to cancer chemotherapy drugs
    (and a wide range of other drugs, including
    birth control hormones, cardiac medications,
    antidepressants, and the anti-organ-rejection
    drug cyclosporin).

    Life Sci. 2006 Mar 27;78(18):2131-45. Epub 2006 Jan 25.
    MDR- and CYP3A4-mediated drug-herbal interactions.
    Pal D, Mitra AK.
    School of Pharmacy, University of Missouri-Kansas
    City, Kansas City, MO 64110-2499, USA.

    According to recent epidemiological reports,
    almost 40% of American population use
    complimentary and alternative medicine (CAM)
    during their lifetime. Patients detected with HIV
    or cancer often consume herbal products especially
    St. John's wort (SJW) for antidepressants in
    combination with prescription medicines. Such
    self-administered herbal products along with
    prescribed medicines raise concerns of therapeutic
    activity due to possible drug-herbal interactions.
    P-glycoprotein (P-gp) and cytochrome P450 3A4
    (CYP3A4) together constitute a highly efficient
    barrier for many orally absorbed drugs. Available
    literature, clinical reports and in vitro studies
    from our laboratory indicate that many drugs and
    herbal active constituents are substrates for both
    P-gp and CYP3A4. Results from clinical studies and
    case reports indicate that self-administered SJW
    reduce steady state plasma concentrations of
    amitriptyline, cyclosporine, digoxin, fexofenadine,
    amprenavir, indonavir, lopinavir, ritonavir,
    saquinavir, benzodiazepines, theophyline,
    irinotecan, midazolan and warfarin. This herbal
    agent has been also reported to cause bleeding
    and unwanted pregnancies when concomitantly
    administered with oral contraceptives. Most of
    these medicinal agents and SJW are substrates
    for P-gp and/or CYP3A4. In vitro studies from
    our laboratory suggest that short-term exposure
    with pure herbal agents such as hypericin,
    kaempferol and quercetin or extract of SJW
    resulted in higher uptake or influx of ritonavir
    and erythromycin. Hypericin, kaempferol and
    quercetin also caused a remarkable inhibition
    of cortisol metabolism with the percent intact
    cortisol values of 64.58%, 89.6% and 90.1%,
    respectively, during short-term in vitro
    experiments. Conversely, long-term exposure of
    herbal agents (hyperforin, kaempferol and
    quercetin) showed enhanced expression of CYP3A4
    mRNA in Caco-2 cells. In another study, we
    observed that long-term exposure of hypericin,
    kaempferol, quercetin and silibinin resulted
    in higher MDR-1 mRNA expression in Caco-2 cells.
    Therefore, herbs can pharmacokinetically act as
    inhibitors or inducers. Medicinal agents that
    are substrates P-gp-mediated efflux and/or
    CYP-mediated metabolism are likely to be
    potential candidates for drug-herbal interactions.
    The duration of exposure of cells/healthy
    volunteers/animals to herbals appears to be
    critical for drug-herbal interaction. An increase
    in plasma drug concentration is possible during
    concomitant administration of SJW and prescribed
    drugs. In contrast, prolonged intake of herbal
    supplement followed by drug administration may
    result in subtherapeutic concentrations. Therefore,
    clinical implications of such drug herbal
    interactions depend on a variety of factors such as
    dose, frequency and timing of herbal intake,
    dosing regimen, route of drug administration and
    therapeutic range. In vitro screening techniques
    will play a major role in identifying possible
    herb-drug interactions and thus create a platform
    for clinical studies to emerge. Mechanisms of
    drug-herbal interaction have been discussed in this
    review article.

  3. Quoted message said:


    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Avoid quercetin because it interfers with chemo?? You've got it
    backwards.


    You say this so pompously and with such arrogance that it is truly
    incredible. You can fantasize about the position that you support being
    well-accepted if you wish. And you can take a posture of "I can't
    believe you in the medical community would challenge my assertions and
    statements". But you are only fooling yourself ... and you are not
    fooling anyone else who reads these newsgroups with half a brain.

    It is YOU who are in the position of trying to propose something against
    accepted current-day medical practice that has been proven to PROLONG
    LIVES and sometimes even SAVE THEM. The burden of proof lies with you,
    so don't make it sound like it is chemo that is the failure.

    In this particular case, the reference makes an interesting conclusion.
    But that's it ... interesting. It is obviously in vitro testing, and is
    far from being anything that can be readily recommended.

    I am not concerned about your rantings for most people who come across
    these newsgroups know that they must take what they hear on the internet
    with a grain of salt. What concerns me is the less well-informed, less
    well-educated people ... or those who are in desperate straits due to
    having cancer that you pray on.

    Funny how you can't leave a post on sci.med.diseases.cancer alone and
    just respond to it on there ... you have to crosspost so your buddies
    can help you. Are you THAT insecure about what you are saying?

    Larry

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    Quoted message said:


    Mark Thorson said:
    Quoted post said:


    Quercetin downregulates matrix metalloproteinases 2 and 9 proteins
    expression in prostate cancer cells (PC-3).

    Note that quercetin inhibits the xenobiotic
    transporter P-gp and the xenobiotic-metabolizing
    liver enzyme CYP3A4. Because these two enzymes
    represent the major pathways for clearance of
    a wide range of cancer chemotherapy drugs,
    quercetin may magnify the effects and
    side-effects of those drugs. Anyone currently
    on cancer chemotherapy who is considering
    using quercetin should discuss this with their
    physician.

    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Unless they have hgh grade NHL, or a testicular gem cell tumour?

  5. Steph said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mark Thorson said:

    "[email hidden]" wrote:
    >
    > Quercetin downregulates matrix metalloproteinases 2 and 9 proteins
    > expression in prostate cancer cells (PC-3).

    Note that quercetin inhibits the xenobiotic
    transporter P-gp and the xenobiotic-metabolizing
    liver enzyme CYP3A4. Because these two enzymes
    represent the major pathways for clearance of
    a wide range of cancer chemotherapy drugs,
    quercetin may magnify the effects and
    side-effects of those drugs. Anyone currently
    on cancer chemotherapy who is considering
    using quercetin should discuss this with their
    physician.

    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Unless they have hgh grade NHL, or a testicular gem cell tumour?

    Never give poison to sick person, or a healthy one. There isn't a
    patient that can't be treated more effectively by improving the health
    of the organism, rather than making the organism sicker.

    If you don't understand that, the people who are reading this do.

  6. Larry said:
    Quoted message said:


    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Avoid quercetin because it interfers with chemo?? You've got it
    backwards.


    You say this so pompously and with such arrogance that it is truly
    incredible. You can fantasize about the position that you support being
    well-accepted if you wish. And you can take a posture of "I can't
    believe you in the medical community would challenge my assertions and
    statements". But you are only fooling yourself ... and you are not
    fooling anyone else who reads these newsgroups with half a brain.

    It is YOU who are in the position of trying to propose something against
    accepted current-day medical practice that has been proven to PROLONG
    LIVES and sometimes even SAVE THEM. The burden of proof lies with you,
    so don't make it sound like it is chemo that is the failure.

    PROVED my ass! A child can see how chemo affects people...it scares
    children...and kills the patient.

    Quoted message said:


    In this particular case, the reference makes an interesting conclusion.
    But that's it ... interesting. It is obviously in vitro testing, and is
    far from being anything that can be readily recommended.

    I am not concerned about your rantings for most people who come across
    these newsgroups know that they must take what they hear on the internet
    with a grain of salt. What concerns me is the less well-informed, less
    well-educated people ... or those who are in desperate straits due to
    having cancer that you pray on.

    Maybe you want a medal for protecting the "less informed" from doing
    things that'll support the organism's health. Yes, you'd rather see
    them get fried. Cooked from the inside. There is no such thing as
    improving health by making your cells function poorly. But that's what
    chemo and radiation do...they make our cells sicker.

    Quoted message said:

    Funny how you can't leave a post on sci.med.diseases.cancer alone and
    just respond to it on there ... you have to crosspost so your buddies
    can help you. Are you THAT insecure about what you are saying?

    Larry

    If the message is crossposted, it was crossposted before. Are you so
    paranoid that you'd be concerned about freedom of speech? BTW, I don't
    need an army of supporters to write down the facts.

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Steph said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > "[email hidden]" wrote:
    > >
    > > Quercetin downregulates matrix metalloproteinases 2 and 9 proteins
    > > expression in prostate cancer cells (PC-3).
    >
    > Note that quercetin inhibits the xenobiotic
    > transporter P-gp and the xenobiotic-metabolizing
    > liver enzyme CYP3A4. Because these two enzymes
    > represent the major pathways for clearance of
    > a wide range of cancer chemotherapy drugs,
    > quercetin may magnify the effects and
    > side-effects of those drugs. Anyone currently
    > on cancer chemotherapy who is considering
    > using quercetin should discuss this with their
    > physician.

    Because chemo has shown itself to be an abysmal failure for 50 years,
    anyone who would waste their time talking to a doctor about chemo as an
    option deserves what they get for being so damn ignorant.

    Unless they have hgh grade NHL, or a testicular gem cell tumour?

    Never give poison to sick person, or a healthy one. There isn't a
    patient that can't be treated more effectively by improving the health
    of the organism, rather than making the organism sicker.

    If you don't understand that, the people who are reading this do.

    Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
    Sure chemo is overused, but there are cancers which it cures.

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