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  1. Ignoramus7328 <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    You know, instead of endlessly speculating whether you have
    hypoglycemia or not, how about investing $30 to buy a super cheap
    blood glucose monitor at walmart and some lancets and strips, and
    fnding it out for yourself. Post your numbers here, some people know
    what they mean and could help you explain your readings.


    <snip>

    Testing for reactive hypoglycemia (which I was diagnosed with years ago) is
    not something that should be done with a home kit. You must go to the
    doctor and get _at least_ a 5 hour GTT. There are also some very dangerous
    symptoms which can occur during a GTT and you should really be monitored by
    a physician during this time.

    From http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm:

    "In order to diagnose reactive hypoglycemia an extended (5 or 6 hour) test
    is necessary, as with some hypoglycemics symptoms won't occur until the 5th
    hour."

    -and-

    "It is not my advice to try this at home. Because of the severe symptoms
    that may occur during the test (100 g of glucose is a hell of a load) a GTT
    is normally carried out in hospital. With the help of a glucometer it may
    also be carried out in any other clinic, though (handheld finger [censored])
    glucometers are not as accurate as laboratory tests on whole blood samples.
    In case of fast bG level change, psychotic or neurotic behaviour might be
    present during the test. Especially patients who take cortico-steroids, the
    birth control pill, diuretics, salicates (Asperin) or fenytoine (anti-
    epilepticum) are strongly discouraged to try this at home. "

    ~miette

  2. miette wrote:
    :: Ignoramus7328 <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :: news:[email hidden]:
    ::
    ::: You know, instead of endlessly speculating whether you have
    ::: hypoglycemia or not, how about investing $30 to buy a super cheap
    ::: blood glucose monitor at walmart and some lancets and strips, and
    ::: fnding it out for yourself. Post your numbers here, some people know
    ::: what they mean and could help you explain your readings.
    :: <snip>
    ::
    :: Testing for reactive hypoglycemia (which I was diagnosed with years
    :: ago) is not something that should be done with a home kit. You must
    :: go to the doctor and get _at least_ a 5 hour GTT. There are also
    :: some very dangerous symptoms which can occur during a GTT and you
    :: should really be monitored by a physician during this time.
    ::
    :: From http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm:
    ::
    :: "In order to diagnose reactive hypoglycemia an extended (5 or 6
    :: hour) test is necessary, as with some hypoglycemics symptoms won't
    :: occur until the 5th hour."
    ::
    :: -and-
    ::
    :: "It is not my advice to try this at home. Because of the severe
    :: symptoms that may occur during the test (100 g of glucose is a hell
    :: of a load) a GTT is normally carried out in hospital. With the help
    :: of a glucometer it may also be carried out in any other clinic,
    :: though (handheld finger [censored]) glucometers are not as accurate as
    :: laboratory tests on whole blood samples. In case of fast bG level
    :: change, psychotic or neurotic behaviour might be present during the
    :: test. Especially patients who take cortico-steroids, the birth
    :: control pill, diuretics, salicates (Asperin) or fenytoine (anti-
    :: epilepticum) are strongly discouraged to try this at home. "
    ::
    :: ~miette

    I never will understand why people who know just a little bit about
    something think they can start giving medical advice on very complex
    metabolic issues that are not even well understood by people with years of
    training.

  3. On the topic of exercise, I actually haven't been doing too much lately, but
    it's certainly something to consider.

    Thanks to both of you for continued advice....it never hurts to see both
    sides of an argument :-)

    Richard

  4. RT wrote:
    || On the topic of exercise, I actually haven't been doing too much
    || lately, but it's certainly something to consider.
    ||
    || Thanks to both of you for continued advice....it never hurts to see
    || both sides of an argument :-)
    ||
    || Richard

    Richard -

    There is a book entitled "Hypoglycemia for Dummies" that you can pick up at
    Amazon.com or some other place. This book will explain to you why your
    trying to test for hypo is likely not to work, despite what that flaming
    moron may have to say 🙂. Chapter 4 of this book will tell you what you need
    to do. It will give you the low-down on the GTT and the G-ITT tests (you
    might be normal on one and abnormal on the other - something to consider)
    and tell you how the results are to be interpreted. The book even has a
    diet to try to 20 days to determine if you are likely to have hypo...there
    is a questionaire for you to fill out that should help. The thing is, the
    diet, as far as I can tell, looks like a LC woe (it does restrict deep fried
    foods, too), so I'm not sure it would work for you since you're already
    doing LC.

    When/if you get a meter, remember that "low" is a relative thing - what may
    be considered low on average may be normal for you. Hence, it is the rate
    of change in BG levels that are typically the tell-tale signs -- fast drops
    in BG typically are what bring on the symptoms.

  5. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    When/if you get a meter, remember that "low" is a relative thing -
    what may be considered low on average may be normal for you. Hence,
    it is the rate of change in BG levels that are typically the tell-tale
    signs -- fast drops in BG typically are what bring on the symptoms.

    Exactly. With hypoglycemia, it's definitely how quickly BG drops... not the
    number of a single reading.

    ~miette

  6. Ignoramus15378 <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Zoul wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I never suggested to the OP to do a glucose tolerance test, so your
    passage is completely irrelevant.

    You suggested that he could diagnose hypoglycemia with a home BG kit:

    Quoted message said:

    You know, instead of endlessly speculating whether you have
    hypoglycemia or not, how about investing $30 to buy a super cheap
    blood glucose monitor at walmart and some lancets and strips, and
    fnding it out for yourself. Post your numbers here, some people know
    what they mean and could help you explain your readings

    That is a foolish idea and reflects your lack of understanding when it
    comes to hypoglycemia. I simply countered your suggestion with something a
    more suited to diagnosing the disorder: a 5+ hour GTT administered by a
    physician.

    Your suggestion is also very dangerous for a true hypoglycemic. Accurate
    readings must follow the ingestion of glucose and scary (potentially life
    threatening) symptoms can occur during a span of 5-6 hours after.

    ~miette

  7. Ignoramus15378 <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    Again, I did not suggest that he administers a GTT to himself.

    i

    Again, what you did suggest was useless.

    ~miette

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