This, of course, refers to Smith's recommendation of trampling on peoples' grief to duck speeding fines here:
Paul Smith Sep 3 2001, 11:01 am You don`t even need to know the deceased. Just picking a name for the
local newspaper`s obituary column has been known to work nicely. With a bit of care in your choice, there`s no one to call you a liar. (It`s on my web site :-) -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK http://www.safespeed.org.uk
For anyone desperate enough to take up the now deceased Mr Smith's suggestion above, here's HIS address:
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I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours whatsoever.
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This, of course, refers to Smith's recommendation of trampling on peoples' grief to duck speeding fines here:
Paul Smith Sep 3 2001, 11:01 am You don`t even need to know the deceased. Just picking a name for the
local newspaper`s obituary column has been known to work nicely. With a bit of care in your choice, there`s no one to call you a liar. (It`s on my web site :-) -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK http://www.safespeed.org.uk
For anyone desperate enough to take up the now deceased Mr Smith's suggestion above, here's HIS address:
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I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours whatsoever.
I think it's meant to show that PS is a subhuman cretiod of no morals whatsoever, and, in my opinion, it does it rather well.
Why doesn't it do cyclists any favours? Surely the only person it doesn't do favours to is the despicable PS?
" cupra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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On Dec 14, 5:32 pm, spindrift <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > This, of course, refers to Smith's recommendation of trampling on > peoples' grief to duck speeding fines here: > > Paul Smith Sep 3 2001, 11:01 am > You don`t even need to know the deceased. Just picking a name for > the > > local newspaper`s obituary column has been known to work nicely. > With > a bit of care in your choice, there`s no one to call you a liar. > (It`s on my web site :-) -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK > http://www.safespeed.org.uk
For anyone desperate enough to take up the now deceased Mr Smith's suggestion above, here's HIS address:
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I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours whatsoever.
I think it's meant to show that PS is a subhuman cretiod of no morals whatsoever, and, in my opinion, it does it rather well.
Why doesn't it do cyclists any favours? Surely the only person it doesn't do favours to is the despicable PS?
" cupra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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" cupra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours whatsoever.
I think it's meant to show that PS is a subhuman cretiod of no morals whatsoever, and, in my opinion, it does it rather well.
Why doesn't it do cyclists any favours? Surely the only person it doesn't do favours to is the despicable PS?
If you don't know then that kind of says it all.
cupra, I'm sure you mean well, but you seem to think that someone who had no respect for others whilst alive deserves respect because he's dead. I disagree. PS was a despicable human being, and yes, he may be dead, but that doesn't mean that he has suddenly become a saint. He was despicable when he was alive, and no amount of being dead excuses that.
Please feel free to disagree, but if I was you, I wouldn't bother on this forum.
" cupra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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" cupra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > calum wrote: > > I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you > it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours > whatsoever.
I think it's meant to show that PS is a subhuman cretiod of no morals whatsoever, and, in my opinion, it does it rather well.
Why doesn't it do cyclists any favours? Surely the only person it doesn't do favours to is the despicable PS?
If you don't know then that kind of says it all.
cupra, I'm sure you mean well, but you seem to think that someone who had no respect for others whilst alive deserves respect because he's dead. I disagree. PS was a despicable human being, and yes, he may be dead, but that doesn't mean that he has suddenly become a saint. He was despicable when he was alive, and no amount of being dead excuses that.
Please point out any part of my post where I've defended his methods, actions and views.
I am questioning the need to post his address and cause distress to his partner and family who have lost a loved one.
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Please feel free to disagree, but if I was you, I wouldn't bother on this forum.
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> local newspaper`s obituary column has been known to work nicely. > With > a bit of care in your choice, there`s no one to call you a liar. > (It`s on my web site :-) -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK > http://www.safespeed.org.uk
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For anyone desperate enough to take up the now deceased Mr Smith's suggestion above, here's HIS address:
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I don't know what this post meant to achieve, but I can tell you it'll be seized upon by anti-cycling types and does us no favours whatsoever.
I think it's meant to show that PS is a subhuman cretiod of no morals whatsoever, and, in my opinion, it does it rather well.
Why doesn't it do cyclists any favours? Surely the only person it doesn't do favours to is the despicable PS?
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Nobody's death pleases me.
That's why Smith's death is not an occasion for sorrow, more pity that the man was unable to see how dreadfully wrong he was. He was the patron saint of the boy racer, those too arrogant or stupid to accept the law. Recidivists go through a rationalisation process- the paedophile says their victims enjoy it, burglars say their victims get insurance money, Paul Smith said children who die on the roads are culpable.
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Yes. The author seems more interested in the fact that the dam would take 2 years to refill than the civilian deaths.
The "Dambuster" raid was designed to destroy heavy industry just below the dam. The drowning of so many German civilians so far from the dam would be called collateral damage by the Americans.
And what would the germans have called it? Do you think they were surprised to find that bombing kills civilians? Guernica et seq.. At least the Dams raid had primarily an industrial target.The reason for the interest shown by the letter was that it was suggested at the time and since that the raid was a waste of time and effort, whereas the writer points out that significant damage was done. I know of at least one 16year old boy who was busy shoving bodies into an incinerator in Dachau at the time and still finds it hard to understand such scruples. At the time the letter was written that number of innocent people were dying every week in Belsen, and the war was over and they were not supporting the german factories.
I suspect that the events at Belsen and Dachau were beyond the knowledge of the Intelligence Officer of the 2nd Batallion of the Gloucestershire Regiment.
He certainly seems to be more concerned with the lawlessness of former Russian slave workers and in confining Polish slave workers to camps while they await repatriation.
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I suspect that the events at Belsen and Dachau were beyond the knowledge of the Intelligence Officer of the 2nd Batallion of the Gloucestershire Regiment.
Unlikely. My father was, by mid 1944, attached to the Intelligence Corps, and was a sergeant seconded to the American unit that discovered Belsen. I think it extremely unlikely that, by the time that report was written, that anyone in Intelligence circles would have been unaware of the horrors of the death camps.
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I suspect that the events at Belsen and Dachau were beyond the knowledge of the Intelligence Officer of the 2nd Batallion of the Gloucestershire Regiment.
I used these specifics merely to point out that he had probably noticed that a lot of people had got killed and the horror was continuing. Newspapers had been reporting Belsen since april and there had been discussions among intelligence officers about how to manage the info..
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I suspect that the events at Belsen and Dachau were beyond the knowledge of the Intelligence Officer of the 2nd Batallion of the Gloucestershire Regiment.
Unlikely. My father was, by mid 1944, attached to the Intelligence Corps, and was a sergeant seconded to the American unit that discovered Belsen. I think it extremely unlikely that, by the time that report was written, that anyone in Intelligence circles would have been unaware of the horrors of the death camps.
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I heard that a british armoured division were approached by the germans with a white flag, and that SAS were the first in briefly, but I would not want to to argue with your dad!
