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  1. Trevor A Panther said the following on 08/03/2008 10:05:

    Quoted message said:

    And dare I say it
    there are a huge amount of traffic light jumpers -- it seems to be
    becoming the standard thing to do -- never mind going through on amber
    I have watched several vehicles at a time driving fast through reds. I
    live about 100 metres from a busy crossroads and see it every time I
    stand and watch. The "chance it brigade"!

    This is becoming a huge problem, yet the media seem to focus purely on
    cyclists who RLJ. Obviously POBS and cyclists who do that are wrong,
    but generally they aren't going to do much damage except to themselves.
    Someone driving a ton or more of metal through red lights,usually in
    excess of the speed limit, is more than likely to hurt or kill someone
    else. Also, having had the misfortune to need to drive in Bristol again
    recently, it seems that a massive factor in the traffic chaos there is
    people jumping lights (red or green) when they can't clear the junction
    so everything locks up.

    I genuinely can't understand why the situation where cars and buses
    blatantly jump red lights isn't getting more attention than it is in the
    media, or is it because cyclists are just seen as an easy target? Red
    light jumping needs to gain the same social stigma as drink-driving (by
    *all* road users)

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    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  2. "Veggie Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Are you serious? Cyclists never get slated in the press

    I'm guessing you don't actually read the press. Columnists frequently attack
    cyclists.

  3. On 08/03/2008 15:31, Clive George said,

    Quoted message said:

    I'm guessing you don't actually read the press. Columnists frequently
    attack cyclists.

    I'm guessing that his intellect matches his moniker.

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    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. "Paul Boyd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 08/03/2008 15:31, Clive George said,

    Quoted message said:

    I'm guessing you don't actually read the press. Columnists frequently
    attack cyclists.

    I'm guessing that his intellect matches his moniker.

    Personally I reckon he's a Guardian reader - they tend to have fewer such
    articles.

  5. Trevor A Panther said:

    PLONK

    It's *always* the plonkers who yell this.

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  6. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    Also, having had the misfortune to need to drive in Bristol again
    recently, it seems that a massive factor in the traffic chaos there is
    people jumping lights (red or green) when they can't clear the junction
    so everything locks up.

    This is the daily lot of us here in Paris. The French mentality seems
    to be that you go through on the green onto the junction even if you
    can't clear it (junction boxses exist here but are systematically
    ignored by =~ 98% of drivers). Of course, when they get stuck, the
    people coming from 90° do the same, and so when they light changes back
    to red, the perpendicular set goes back to green, and they get off the
    junction. In the meantime, however, the people who were prevented from
    clearing _their_ green light, go through on the red, reasoning (I
    presume) that if was 'their turn' anyway. They naturally enough get
    caught in the middle of the junction, and the whole thing starts again.

    I've seen people get nicked for going through on the red in situations
    such as above, and even when shown video evidence that they went through
    on the red, have vehemently denied it, even on occasion becoming
    verbally or physically abusive towards plod.

    Quoted message said:

    I genuinely can't understand why the situation where cars and buses
    blatantly jump red lights isn't getting more attention than it is in the
    media, or is it because cyclists are just seen as an easy target? Red
    light jumping needs to gain the same social stigma as drink-driving (by
    *all* road users)

    Cyclists don't pay road tax.

    HTH.

    D.
    --
    des | 'what does it matter what he posts?'
    French motorcycling vocabulary -->
    http://coughlan.fr/vocab_french-english_2007.pdf

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, des
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists don't pay road tax.


    There's no specific road tax. Vehicle Excise Duty isn't set aside to
    pay for roads, it goes into the chancellor's big pot with all the other
    taxes raised from people including cyclists and pedestrians and
    equestrians.

  8. "Rob Morley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, des
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists don't pay road tax.


    There's no specific road tax. Vehicle Excise Duty isn't set aside to
    pay for roads, it goes into the chancellor's big pot with all the other
    taxes raised from people including cyclists and pedestrians and
    equestrians.

    You'll get food poisoning from that bait...

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Clive George
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Rob Morley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, des
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists don't pay road tax.


    There's no specific road tax. Vehicle Excise Duty isn't set aside to
    pay for roads, it goes into the chancellor's big pot with all the other
    taxes raised from people including cyclists and pedestrians and
    equestrians.

    You'll get food poisoning from that bait...


    It's OK, I spat it out.

  10. On 08/03/2008 18:26, des said,

    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists don't pay road tax.

    Nor does anyone else. Well, not for about 72 years anyway since it was
    abolished.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  11. The Older Gentleman <[email hidden]> wrote the following
    literary masterpiece:

    Quoted message said:

    Have a look at his home page...

    Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear...

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    POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk
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  12. The Older Gentleman said:


    Have a look at his home page....

    Could you please post a link to your home page for comparison.

  13. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember [email hidden] (The
    Older Gentleman) saying something like:

    Quoted message said:

    Have a look at his home page....

    I've seen worse.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "A scone and tea at half past three
    Makes the day a little brighter
    Keep your cakes and fancy [censored]
    And stick them up your [censored]."

  14. On 08/03/2008 17:35, The Older Gentleman said,

    Quoted message said:

    Have a look at his home page....

    Amongst all the [censored] that seems to comprise your signature, the link to
    your home page seems to be missing.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  15. Paul Boyd said:

    On 08/03/2008 17:35, The Older Gentleman said,

    Quoted message said:

    Have a look at his home page....

    Amongst all the [censored] that seems to comprise your signature, the link to
    your home page seems to be missing.

    And?

    --
    BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F & SL125
    GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
    BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
    chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

  16. "Señor Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Older Gentleman said:


    Have a look at his home page....

    Could you please post a link to your home page for comparison.

    So you have to have a home page to know another one is bad?

    --
    Dan White
    ([email hidden])
    Perform an exorcism when replying.

  17. Dan White said:

    "Señor Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Older Gentleman said:

    Have a look at his home page....


    Could you please post a link to your home page for comparison.

    So you have to have a home page to know another one is bad?

    What's so 'bad' about it ?

  18. The Older Gentleman said:
    Paul Boyd said:

    On 08/03/2008 17:35, The Older Gentleman said,

    Quoted message said:

    Have a look at his home page....


    Amongst all the [censored] that seems to comprise your signature, the link to
    your home page seems to be missing.

    And?

    And slagging off other people's efforts when you haven't got the wit or
    intelligence to produce anything of your own makes you look a bit of a [censored].

  19. On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:30:10 GMT, Señor Chris <[email hidden]> is
    alleged to have written:

    Quoted message said:
    The Older Gentleman said:
    Paul Boyd said:

    On 08/03/2008 17:35, The Older Gentleman said,

    > Have a look at his home page....
    Amongst all the [censored] that seems to comprise your signature, the link to
    your home page seems to be missing.

    And?


    And slagging off other people's efforts when you haven't got the wit or
    intelligence to produce anything of your own makes you look a bit of a [censored].

    Is there a law stating that you must have a personal home page? Not
    having one does not equate to the lack of ability to produce one. Nor
    is it necessary to tell the world if you do have one, after all there
    are some particularly unsavoury characters out there.

    --
    Darren
    GSF1200N K3

  20. DR said:

    On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:30:10 GMT, Señor Chris <[email hidden]> is
    alleged to have written:

    Quoted message said:
    The Older Gentleman said:

    Paul Boyd <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > On 08/03/2008 17:35, The Older Gentleman said,
    >
    >> Have a look at his home page....
    > Amongst all the [censored] that seems to comprise your signature, the link to
    > your home page seems to be missing.
    And?


    And slagging off other people's efforts when you haven't got the wit or
    intelligence to produce anything of your own makes you look a bit of a [censored].

    Is there a law stating that you must have a personal home page? Not
    having one does not equate to the lack of ability to produce one. Nor
    is it necessary to tell the world if you do have one, after all there
    are some particularly unsavoury characters out there.

    Exactly. People who are willing to put personal information on the web
    in order to provide useful information to others should be
    congratulated, not put down with inane criticism.

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