Re: Oh Well......

Just zis Guy said:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:23:37 GMT, Mike Vandeman
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(ob. Edward Dolan, troll of this parish)

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The only fun I have here is reading your posts. I have yet to find
anyone else (except myself, of course) who posts anything worth
reading.

There you have the statement of Mike Vandeman, "the wit of the
forks". Yup, definitely Vandeman the fork wit.

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Mike_Vandeman

Where is the entry on E.D. in the "Trolls" section?

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you know? said:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:23:37 GMT, Mike Vandeman
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(ob. Edward Dolan, troll of this parish)

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The only fun I have here is reading your posts. I have yet to find
anyone else (except myself, of course) who posts anything worth
reading.

There you have the statement of Mike Vandeman, "the wit of the
forks". Yup, definitely Vandeman the fork wit.

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Mike_Vandeman

Guy

Thanks for proving my point.
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:13:21 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

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These UK morons should stay in their tiny kingdom by the sea and not venture
out into the wider world where we Americans dominate by right of conquest.

Tell me, what lands do Americans "dominate by right of conquest"?
Iraq? Afghanistan? Somalia? Vietnam? Korea? Cuba?

The sad truth is that while the US may not have lost any battles, the
only war it has won was its Civil War - and Americans lost that one at
the same time!

In article said:

The sad truth is that while the US may not have lost any battles, the
only war it has won was its Civil War - and Americans lost that one at
the same time!

They were on the winning side, and played an important part, in WWII once
they were forced to join in.
They won their independence in a war in the first place, even if they
probably wouldn't have kept it if we didn't have a bigger war to deal
with in 1812.

Alan Braggins writtificated

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The French won the American's war of independence for them.

I've fixed your post 😉

On 23 Mar 2008 08:33:21 +0000 (GMT), [email hidden] (Alan

Braggins) said:

In article said:

The sad truth is that while the US may not have lost any battles, the
only war it has won was its Civil War - and Americans lost that one at
the same time!

They were on the winning side, and played an important part, in WWII once
they were forced to join in.

WWII can hardly be described as a US "domination be right of
conquest". Other allies, such as Russia, may describe their victory
in much of Germany as such.

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They won their independence in a war in the first place, even if they
probably wouldn't have kept it if we didn't have a bigger war to deal
with in 1812.

The US wasn't granted independence until after the insurgency -
September 3, 1783, so it can hardly be claimed to have been won by the
US. Washington was a British Officer. Their independence was granted
following a mutiny.

On 23 Mar 2008 08:44:43 GMT, Mark T
<pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>

Quoted message said:

Alan Braggins writtificated

Quoted message said:

The French won the American's war of independence for them.

I've fixed your post 😉

Google disagrees. I punched "French military victories" into Google
and hit "I'm feeling lucky". An error page came up.

In article said:

On 23 Mar 2008 08:33:21 +0000 (GMT), [email hidden] (Alan

Braggins) said:

In article said:

The sad truth is that while the US may not have lost any battles, the
only war it has won was its Civil War - and Americans lost that one at
the same time!

They were on the winning side, and played an important part, in WWII once
they were forced to join in.

WWII can hardly be described as a US "domination be right of
conquest".

You said "only war", not "only war of domination be right of conquest".
(Of course Dolan was being an idiot, he always is.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They won their independence in a war in the first place, even if they
probably wouldn't have kept it if we didn't have a bigger war to deal
with in 1812.

The US wasn't granted independence until after the insurgency -
September 3, 1783, so it can hardly be claimed to have been won by the
US.

The Treaty of Paris acknowledged American independence, not created it.
You'll note that Americans celebrate Independence Day on July 4th, not
September 3rd.

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Washington was a British Officer.

Had been a British officer years before the war.

On 23 Mar 2008 19:52:28 +0000 (GMT), [email hidden] (Alan

Braggins) said:

In article said:

On 23 Mar 2008 08:33:21 +0000 (GMT), [email hidden] (Alan

Braggins) said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Crispin wrote:
>
>The sad truth is that while the US may not have lost any battles, the
>only war it has won was its Civil War - and Americans lost that one at
>the same time!

They were on the winning side, and played an important part, in WWII once
they were forced to join in.

WWII can hardly be described as a US "domination be right of
conquest".

You said "only war", not "only war of domination be right of conquest".
(Of course Dolan was being an idiot, he always is.)

You have a point, but as the US only joined WWII in its closing stages
it can hardly be defined as an American victory.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They won their independence in a war in the first place, even if they
probably wouldn't have kept it if we didn't have a bigger war to deal
with in 1812.

The US wasn't granted independence until after the insurgency -
September 3, 1783, so it can hardly be claimed to have been won by the
US.

The Treaty of Paris acknowledged American independence, not created it.
You'll note that Americans celebrate Independence Day on July 4th, not
September 3rd.

The only state to recognise Taiwan as Independent is the Vatican City.
If China signed a peace treaty with Taiwan it would be recognised as
independent worldwide.

In other words, it was not until the peace treaty was signed by George
III's envoy that the US was truly recognised as being independent.

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Washington was a British Officer.

Had been a British officer years before the war.

In other words he was an arch-traitor.

Have you ever read the Flashman Papers? General Braddock's routing at
the Monongahela with Washington surviving, carring Braddock's body
from the field, reminds me of one of Flashman's greater acts of
cowardice-appearing-to-be-heroism.

As an act of complete cynicism Washington wore Braddock's General's
sash, that he took from Braddock as he lay dying, at ceromonial
occasions throughout his presidency.

It is also interesting to note that Washington himself burried
Braddock - Braddock being the sole witness of Washington's conduct on
the field.

Earlier in his undistinguished career as a British Officer, Washington
surrendered to the French at Fort Necessity, and confessed to the
murder of several Indian scouts at the Battle of Jumonville Glen.

Please don't be fooled by the revisionism of American history
textbooks.

Tom Crispin said:

Google disagrees. I punched "French military victories" into Google
and hit "I'm feeling lucky". An error page came up.

*Yawn*

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing#Political_activism>

In article said:

Have you ever read the Flashman Papers?

Yes. I checked them out of the fiction section of my local library.
Since this continues to be off topic, I won't other with further
corrections, beyond noting that 1941 is hardly the "closing sections"
of 1939-1945. Maybe your avoidance of "revisionism" led you to avoid
history textbooks altogether?