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  1. Robin King said:

    Check out
    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/516141/

    Description

    Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver. The idea that
    Americans' increasing girth is a catastrophic disease is largely a
    myth promoted by the weight loss industry and diet doctors, writes
    Oliver in a new book.

    Source: University of Chicago

    Robin

    PS - I'm not making this up!

    You did some selective editing:

    "Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver, Associate
    Professor in Political Science at the University of Chicago."

    Did you catch his profession? Of course, you did!

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, Hunter <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Robin King said:

    Check out
    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/516141/

    Description

    Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver. The idea that
    Americans' increasing girth is a catastrophic disease is largely a
    myth promoted by the weight loss industry and diet doctors, writes
    Oliver in a new book.

    Eric Oliver also loved the Emperor's new suit!

    Diva

  3. Hunter said:
    Robin King said:

    Check out
    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/516141/

    Description

    Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver. The idea that
    Americans' increasing girth is a catastrophic disease is largely a
    myth promoted by the weight loss industry and diet doctors, writes
    Oliver in a new book.

    Source: University of Chicago

    Robin

    PS - I'm not making this up!

    You did some selective editing:

    "Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver, Associate
    Professor in Political Science at the University of Chicago."

    Did you catch his profession? Of course, you did!

    After reading this I wanted to know the definition of obese. I have
    always wondered what is overweight and what is obese. I thought obese
    was someone who was 5 ft. tall and 250 lbs or something. I read the
    following and I realize I have been out of the weight loss loop for a
    long time. I used to just see what my scale said to see how I was
    doing..GET ON, READ NUMBER...OK LOSE SOME WEIGHT....Then I read the
    following....and it have me a headache. I think I will not google
    obesity again. Where is the tylenol?

    Maggie.

    The BMI describes body weight relative to height and is strongly
    correlated with how much body mass, including fat, a person has. To
    calculate the BMI, either weight in pounds and height in inches OR
    weight in kilograms and height in meters, can be used. The BMI is the
    weight in kilograms divided by the height in meters squared [wt (kg)/ht
    (m)2] or the weight in pounds divided by the height in inches squared
    times 703 [wt (lbs.)/ht (in)2] ] x [703] (see Table 2). For example,
    for someone who is 5'7" tall, their BMI would be 25 at 159 pounds, or
    their BMI would be 30 at 191 pounds (see Table 3). The range that is
    considered healthy is between 19 to 25. A person with a BMI of 25 or
    greater is considered overweight; with a BMI of 30 or greater the
    person is considered obese; and with a BMI of 40 or greater, the person
    is considered extremely obese. Solid evidence demonstrates that the
    risk for various diseases rises significantly when the BMI is over 25
    and that risk of death increases as the BMI reaches and surpasses 30.
    The BMI number applies to both men and women. Some people who are very
    athletic and have a heavier muscle mass may have a higher BMI without
    the same health risks. The BMI is also used to determine whether weight
    loss drug prescriptions or surgery should be considered. FDA approved
    weight loss drugs are only recommended for those with a BMI > 30, or a
    BMI > 27 when an obesity-related disease already exists. Surgery for
    weight loss is an option when conventional methods have failed for
    those with clinically severe obesity measured by a BMI > 40, or a BMI >
    35 with an obesity-related disease.

  4. "Maggie" <[email hidden]> contributed wisdom to
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    After reading this I wanted to know the definition of obese. I have
    always wondered what is overweight and what is obese. I thought obese
    was someone who was 5 ft. tall and 250 lbs or something.

    There is an official government (US) site with a chart where you can put in
    your info like weight and height. It will give you an "official answer"
    which is appropriate to many of the scary articles you might have seen.

    However, for anyone over 30 I should warn you that it does make many people
    "obese" that you wouldnt have thought so. And it makes most people "fat".
    Even most of the military, firemen, police, body builders, etc etc.

    Then you can take that info and go see your physician about it (and listen
    to them try and backpeddle the "official" government chart)

    Gandalf Parker

  5. Hunter said:
    Robin King said:

    Check out
    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/516141/

    Description

    Quoted message said:

    "Despite its growing weight, America does not have an "obesity
    epidemic," according to new research by Eric Oliver, Associate
    Professor in Political Science at the University of Chicago."

    Did you catch his profession? Of course, you did!

    "Oliver argues that by making body weight a barometer of wellness,
    public health officials and doctors are sending the wrong message -
    that being heavy, even if you exercise and eat right..."

    What the author seems to miss is that VERY FEW people who exercise and
    eat right are heavy. Weight is a near perfect barometer of wellness,
    and trying to lose weight generally includes proper diet and exercise.

  6. Gandalf Parker said:

    There is an official government (US) site with a chart where you can
    put in your info like weight and height. It will give you an
    "official answer" which is appropriate to many of the scary articles
    you might have seen.

    However, for anyone over 30 I should warn you that it does make many
    people "obese" that you wouldnt have thought so. And it makes most
    people "fat". Even most of the military, firemen, police, body
    builders, etc etc.

    Most military, firemen, and police? Where did you get this information
    from?

    YOu are either lying or you have not taken the time to read the
    disclosures about the limitations of BMI calculations published on all
    Federal government web sites that have BMI calculators. An example
    from the DHHS:

    http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/obesity/lose_wt/risk.htm#li
    mitations

    BMI is still a valid tool for the vast majority of Americans since it's
    not easy to get accurate body fat calculations.

    Quoted message said:


    Then you can take that info and go see your physician about it (and
    listen to them try and backpeddle the "official" government chart)

    That's because you see clueless military doctors because you have no
    private health insurance. For all your past bragging that you are
    perfectly healthy, you sure make a lot of visits to the doctor.

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