Re: New Chelation Bill YEA

Athrosclerosis is that like...

.... Jethrosclerosis ?

(Hawki63) said:

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 7/30/2003 6:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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Arteriosclerosis/Athrosclerosis

firstly...you can't even SPELL it....athErosclerosis

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http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article&ID=1499

then she quotes a commercial site...yep...best place to get medical knowledge..

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"hardening of the arteries,

yep....arterio...most commonly in aging..

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**depositing of calcium in their walls***

yep...athero....happens at any age...

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Atherosclerosis is a disease of the arteries characterized by

**fatty deposits on the intimal, or inner, lining. The presence of fatty
deposits, called plaques, leads to an important loss of

yep...NOW you got it....

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

"similarity of words?"....is that relevant??is that how you view scientific
knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

yikes...maroon

why not leave the "medical" info to the "medical" folks..ie..those of us who
actually have some education ......

and Jannie (do you like that spelling better??)....quoting from anything 4 or 5
decades old..is..well...out of date...science does that...

hawki

hawki

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 7/30/2003 6:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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Arteriosclerosis/Athrosclerosis

firstly...you can't even SPELL it....athErosclerosis

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http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article&ID=1499

then she quotes a commercial site...yep...best place to get medical

knowledge..

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"hardening of the arteries,

yep....arterio...most commonly in aging..

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**depositing of calcium in their walls***

yep...athero....happens at any age...

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Atherosclerosis is a disease of the arteries characterized by

**fatty deposits on the intimal, or inner, lining. The presence of fatty
deposits, called plaques, leads to an important loss of

yep...NOW you got it....

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

"similarity of words?"....is that relevant??is that how you view

scientific

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knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

yikes...maroon

why not leave the "medical" info to the "medical" folks..ie..those of us

who

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actually have some education ......

and Jannie (do you like that spelling better??)....quoting from anything 4

or 5

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decades old..is..well...out of date...science does that...

hawki

You're still playing that ole elitist game are you nursie? Jan posted all
this info showing you the differences and similarities between
arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis and all you do is complain about a few
misspelled words and then crow loudly about your supposed superior
knowledge. You are a lousy nurse and stupid to boot. I pity your poor
patients. You're wrong on HBOT and on EECP and on Dental Amalgams and
Chelation Therapy and God only knows what else! You're so far up the rear
end of the PMIC it's no wonder you think none of these alternative therapies
works! You couldn't see a conspiracy because it's way too dark where you
have your head to!--rb

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hawki

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You're wrong on HBOT and on EECP and on Dental Amalgams and
Chelation Therapy and God only knows what else!

I would list the things YOU are wrong about, but there is insufficient
bandwidth.

--Rich

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/30/2003 12:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 7/30/2003 6:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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>Arteriosclerosis/Athrosclerosis

firstly...you can't even SPELL it....athErosclerosis

Had hawki looked rather than shooting off the mouth, he/she/it would have seen
it was not my spelling.

http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/cdisease/cardiovascular/arterioscleros
is.html

Arteriosclerosis/Athrosclerosis

But then it needs something to [censored] about.

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http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article&ID=1499

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then she quotes a commercial site...yep...best place to get medical
knowledge..

For some reason, debunkers have a thing about selling, as if it were a curse,
truth is tose who sell it have studied it.

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"hardening of the arteries,

Oops, a bit of snipping goin on here,

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yep....arterio...most commonly in aging..

A news flash!!

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**depositing of calcium in their walls***

yep...athero....happens at any age...

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Atherosclerosis is a disease of the arteries characterized by

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**fatty deposits on the intimal, or inner, lining. The presence of fatty
deposits, called plaques, leads to an important loss of

Snipped that sentence right in half. I'll bet one of the debunkers will notice
and pitch a fit. *;*

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yep...NOW you got it....

W R O N G. I had it long ago.

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

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similarity of words?"....is that relevant??

ABSOLUTELY!

Except it snipped them.

So I will restore them.

http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article&ID=1499

Atherosclerosis/Arteriosclerosis

(my, my I wonder why there is a slash between these words.)

© David L. Hoffmann B.Sc. (Hons), M.N.I.M.H.

Arteriosclerosis
A generic term for a number of diseases in which the

**arterial wall becomes thickened and loses elasticity.**

The term arteriosclerosis refers to several diseases that involve

***both arteries of different sizes and different layers of the walls of the
arteries.***

From Greek words that mean "hardening of the arteries, " the term originally
signified the tendency of arteries to become hard and brittle through the

**depositing of calcium in their walls***

.. This is not, however, an important characteristic of the most familiar form
of

******arteriosclerosis, called atherosclerosis******

Atherosclerosis

Atherosclerosis is a disease of the arteries characterized by

**fatty deposits on the intimal, or inner, lining. The presence of fatty
deposits, called plaques, leads to an important loss of

**arterial elasticity with narrowing of the artery. This constriction to smooth
blood-flow**

(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

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that how you view
scientific

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knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

No, just pointing out, the similarity.

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yikes...maroon

Nurse talk??

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why not leave the "medical" info to the "medical" folks..ie..those of us
who

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actually have some education ......

Umm, firstly I wasn't posting to you, scondly I was replying to Peter who is
desperate to make a big deal over nothing.

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and Jannie (do you like that spelling better??

[censored] about spelling (which wasn't mine) is childish.

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quoting from anything 4
or 5

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decades old..is..well...out of date...science does that...

http://www.geocities.com/cbpdoc/skeptictricks.html

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hawki

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You're still playing that ole elitist game are you nursie?

Such low self esteem.

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Jan posted all
this info showing you the differences and similarities between
arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis and all you do is complain about a few
misspelled words and then crow loudly about your supposed superior
knowledge.

You got it!!

You are a lousy nurse and stupid to boot. I pity your poor

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patients. You're wrong on HBOT and on EECP and on Dental Amalgams and
Chelation Therapy and God only knows what else! You're so far up the rear
end of the PMIC it's no wonder you think none of these alternative therapies
works! You couldn't see a conspiracy because it's way too dark where you
have your head to!--rb

Welcome to EVIL organized medicine, where illness comes in last, far behind
EGO.

Sad that.

Jan

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then she quotes a commercial site...yep...best place to get medical
knowledge..

For some reason, debunkers have a thing about selling, as if it were a curse,
truth is tose who sell it have studied it.

Yep, they studied the profit structure thoroughly.

(Hawki63) said:

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

"similarity of words?"....is that relevant??is that how you view scientific
knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

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WB said:

Athrosclerosis is that like...

... Jethrosclerosis ?

Hardening of the flute? (Australians will understand.)

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Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
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I'm a Bright. Are you?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:28:38 GMT, Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

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(Hawki63) said:

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

"similarity of words?"....is that relevant??is that how you view scientific
knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

That's why I am researching Jethrosclerosis

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:29:20 GMT, Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

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WB said:

Athrosclerosis is that like...

... Jethrosclerosis ?

Hardening of the flute? (Australians will understand.)

Ahh, think that I understand now.

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 7/30/2003 2:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Had hawki looked rather than shooting off the mouth, he/she/it would have
seen
it was not my spelling.

Hawki doesn't have to look...I know how to spell the two words..

EVer occur to you that whatever jerkoff that wrote the site spelled them
WRONG?? Course not..then YOU would have to have the EXPERIENCE of spelling
such medical terms...

ie..before you post such drivel on usenet..perhaps you need to get out the
Tabors(medical dictionary to you...)

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truth is tose who sell it have studied it.

those who sell it...have studied how to make out sales receipts...nothing
more..if what the info on your "posted sites" reveal...yikes..the guy doesn't
even know how to spell atherosclerosis..yet is selling a remedy for
such...about as dumb as you not realizing the word is spelled in the first
place!!

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"hardening of the arteries,

Oops, a bit of snipping goin on here,

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yep....arterio...most commonly in aging..

A news flash!!

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depositing of calcium in their walls***

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jerkoff...talking about "cause and effect" here...surely arterio..assoc with
aging..RESULTS in calcification of vessels...

athero....the calcification is the RESULT of the lipids...the two are DIFFERENT
etiologies..one is reversible..one is not...

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*fatty deposits on the intimal, or inner, lining. The presence of fatty

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>deposits, called plaques, leads to an important loss of

no need for the rest of the sentence...most here know what it said....

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W R O N G. I had it long ago.

again...in your own words..how are arterio and athero sclerosis different??
age at onset??? reversible or not?? diet/drugs help?? (which ??)..forget
chelation..as it helps neither

repeat after me..."I have no clue"

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(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

let me get this...."similar" words..thus SAME entity??? yikes....

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No, just pointing out, the similarity.

similar terminology for totally different diagnoses...

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You're still playing that ole elitist game are you nursie?

being "elite" when compared to you is actually not much of a jump...sad that...

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Jan posted all
this info showing you the differences and similarities between
arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis and all you do is complain about a fe

OMG....you are reaching if you have sunken to quoting rubber brains as your
savior!!!

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You are a lousy nurse

based upon personal knowledge??? yeah right...
HBOT...never commented upon hyperbaric treatment

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EECP

only to state it is used as a last ditch..not a first line (unless someone
cannot tolerate anything else...then it is palliation)

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Dental Amalgams

haven't said much about that either...

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Chelation Therapy a

good treatment for heavy metals

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PMIC

?????

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Welcome to EVIL organized medicine, where illness comes in last, far behind
EGO.

welcome??? you are about 35 years too late.....sad that

hawki

hawki

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

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As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

you must like bugs

hawki

hawki

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

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As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

you must like bugs

Yes, but that is in NO way similar to JBain's liking of buggery, despite their
"similar sounding".

(Hawki63) said:

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

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As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

you must like bugs

hawki

Only snug ones wrapped in rugs.

In said:

For some reason, debunkers have a thing about selling, as if it were a curse,
truth is tose who sell it have studied it.

Another keeper!

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You're wrong on HBOT and on EECP and on Dental Amalgams and
Chelation Therapy and God only knows what else!

I would list the things YOU are wrong about, but there is insufficient
bandwidth.

Please don't. It would stop the internet.

Rich Shewmaker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You're wrong on HBOT and on EECP and on Dental Amalgams and
Chelation Therapy and God only knows what else!

I would list the things YOU are wrong about, but there is insufficient
bandwidth.

Hmmm, that's almost like a terrorist threat....

--

Robert Bronsing

Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense,
expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence

(R. Waters)

Jan said:

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 7/30/2003 3:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
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(Hawki63) said:

>(look carefully now, Peter, did you see a similarity of words above??)

"similarity of words?"....is that relevant??is that how you view scientific
knowledge?? hmmmm...sounds like..so must BE like...

As I pointed out to Jan just recently. "etymology" and "entomology"
sound alike but have different etiology.

And I pointed out, many things, this one included.

This is not, however, an important characteristic of the most familiar form
of

******arteriosclerosis, called atherosclerosis******

See:

http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual_home2/sec03/ch032/ch032a.htm

http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual_home2/sb/sb032_1.htm

They are NOT interchangeable terms.

Hawki63 said:

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Mark Probert [email hidden]

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Jan wrote:

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******arteriosclerosis, called atherosclerosis******

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They are NOT interchangeable terms.

Have been trying to get that thru her thick head...yikes..she started out
quoting a site where the guy couldn't even SPELL one of the words..

Anyone who professes to be an expert on anything, should be smart enough
to use a spell checker, or the look utterly foolish.

Imagine Einstein spelling enurgy.

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Subject: Re: New Chelation Bill YEA
From: Mark Probert [email hidden]
Date: 7/31/2003 12:55 PM P

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******arteriosclerosis, called atherosclerosis******

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They are NOT interchangeable terms.

correctamundo...but then,....me thinks Jannie never reads what she posts....nor
for that matter has the education and "experience" that most of what she posts
makes NOOOOO sense...

but then...anyone who would even post a site from 3 or 4 decades ago surely has
no clue as to how fast medical knowledge changes....etc

what can we expect???????

hawki

hawki