Many medical doctors and scientists have suggested a link between milk consumption and heart disease. The scientific literature is so
One doctor has just suggested a new milk factor. This new theory might Milk and Mortality (ISBN 0-9671605-0-2 $35) is published by: Gordon Books (925-443-6213) 567 Amber Court Livermore California 94550
Tim, whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. Nutri med folks NEVER say that any current NON-drinkers of cow's milk should now START drinking cow's milk Actually, M.D.s with an interest toward nutritional medicine say folks would be wise to eliminate dairy (including cow's milk) products from their diet. Since I now understand the chemical structure of cow's milk, I know why they say that.
:: [...] whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in :: ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any :: POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. [...]
I think that low fat dairy is associated with lower blood pressure and reduced weight gain in epidemiological studies. Lactovegetarians have higher life-expectancy and better bone quality than vegans do. I am not promoting high use of dairy but sometimes the adverse effects are exaggerated.
:: [...] whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in :: ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any :: POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. [...]
I think that low fat dairy is associated with lower blood pressure
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reduced weight gain in epidemiological studies. Lactovegetarians have
higher
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life-expectancy and better bone quality than vegans do. I am not
promoting
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high use of dairy but sometimes the adverse effects are exaggerated.
-- Juhana
"Low fat dairy" is a criminal sales conspiracy. When a certain portion of the fat is removed the volume in a qt. of milk is less than a quart, therefore more "low fat" milk must be added to make up the difference. Ergo, and increase in casein, hormones, etc. As for the volume of actual fat removed it is minimal as people wouldn't buy dairy that had a chalky tasted from all the calcium and no fat to make it all slippery and slidy. Actual low fat was tried years ago and was a bust sales wise. So the low fat is now measured by weight as opposed to volume.
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Juhana Harju said:
George Lagergren wrote:
:: [...] whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in :: ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any :: POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. [...]
I think that low fat dairy is associated with lower blood pressure
and
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reduced weight gain in epidemiological studies. Lactovegetarians have
higher
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life-expectancy and better bone quality than vegans do. I am not
promoting
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high use of dairy but sometimes the adverse effects are exaggerated.
-- Juhana
"Low fat dairy" is a criminal sales conspiracy. When a certain portion of the fat is removed the volume in a qt. of milk is less than a quart, therefore more "low fat" milk must be added to make up the difference. Ergo, and increase in casein, hormones, etc.
Yes, low fat milk is denser in nutrients.
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As for the volume of actual fat removed it is minimal as people wouldn't buy dairy that had a chalky tasted from all the calcium and no fat to make it all slippery and slidy. Actual low fat was tried years ago and was a bust sales wise.
Sales of skim milk are just fine, thank you. Also, millions of tons of non-fat dry milk are sold to be used as ingredients in baked goods and other products.
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So the low fat is now measured by weight as opposed to volume.
Why don't you consume ***ALL*** the milk and get back to us?
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Juhana Harju said:
George Lagergren wrote:
:: [...] whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in :: ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any :: POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. [...]
I think that low fat dairy is associated with lower blood pressure
and
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reduced weight gain in epidemiological studies. Lactovegetarians have
higher
Quoted message said:
life-expectancy and better bone quality than vegans do. I am not
promoting
Quoted message said:
high use of dairy but sometimes the adverse effects are exaggerated.
-- Juhana
"Low fat dairy" is a criminal sales conspiracy. When a certain portion of the fat is removed the volume in a qt. of milk is less than a quart, therefore more "low fat" milk must be added to make up the difference. Ergo, and increase in casein, hormones, etc.
Yes, low fat milk is denser in nutrients.
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As for the volume of actual fat removed it is minimal as people wouldn't buy dairy that had a chalky tasted from all the calcium and no fat to make it all slippery and slidy. Actual low fat was tried years ago and was a bust sales wise.
Sales of skim milk are just fine, thank you. Also, millions of tons of non-fat dry milk are sold to be used as ingredients in baked goods and
other
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products.
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So the low fat is now measured by weight as opposed to volume.
Many medical doctors and scientists have suggested a link between milk consumption and heart disease. The scientific literature is so
One doctor has just suggested a new milk factor. This new theory might Milk and Mortality (ISBN 0-9671605-0-2 $35) is published by: Gordon Books (925-443-6213) 567 Amber Court Livermore California 94550
Tim, whenever I read nutritional medicine literature in ref to cow's milk, I have never found any information on any POSITIVE health benefits from drinking cow's milk. Nutri med folks NEVER say that any current NON-drinkers of cow's milk should now START drinking cow's milk Actually, M.D.s with an interest toward nutritional medicine say folks would be wise to eliminate dairy (including cow's milk) products from their diet. Since I now understand the chemical structure of cow's milk, I know why they say that.
George, you know as much about the chemical structure of cow's milk as you do about speaking ancient Assyrian, i.e. nothing.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor
If the free radical oriented hypotheses of "chronic disease" are largely correct - and the evidence suggests this in the strongest possible terms - then it is all dependent upon when the lipids in the milk have undergone free radical degradation, either by processing, cooking, or in the body (due to other things you ate with the milk, such as fried foods). If there are other toxins in the milk, then of course this could be a problem too, but I'm assuming the cows ate organic food, weren't pumped up with antibiotics, etc.
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If the free radical oriented hypotheses of "chronic disease" are largely correct - and the evidence suggests this in the strongest possible terms - then it is all dependent upon when the lipids in the milk have undergone free radical degradation, either by processing, cooking, or in the body (due to other things you ate with the milk, such as fried foods). If there are other toxins in the milk, then of course this could be a problem too,
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but I'm assuming the cows ate organic food, weren't pumped up with antibiotics, etc.
Too bad you don't specify what irks you. I could cite dozens of studies that say specifically that lipid peroxidation or ROS or free radical mediated processes or some other way to describe the same phenomenon is likely at the heart of "chronic disease," but you will never admit you made a mistake - you are more of a politician than a scientist (assuming you really do have any credentials).
