Re: Martin Miller Gin

"Kevintsheehy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Liquor store operators oppose
supermarket sales. Relatively few outlets open on Sunday, mostly
because there's not enough business.

All sorts of connotations no matter what the state does. They say don't
drink because it is bad for you, but now our stores are open Sunday so you
can buy even more of it.

Small stores don't want the supermarkets to take their business. The number
of sales is about constant no matter how many outlets or how many hours they
are open. So, why add more hours and pay more labor for the same sales?
But if the guy down the street stays open an hour later, I must also.

I've never had a crisis because the liquor stores closed at 8:00 PM or are
not open Sunday. Even the local drunks learned to plan ahead. I prefer the
larger stores as they have a better selection to choose from. The state
controls the price so that is not a consideration in many states.

Kevintsheehy said:

notbob wrote (12/29/2004)

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Oregon is one of the coolest states I've ever lived in. Truly
progressive. Makes CA look positively right-wing. But, their liquor
laws are truly Draconian. Almost as bad as The South. 😉

Agreed. In many ways, Oregon's a great place to live, but the
liquor laws are backwards for a place that's otherwise relatively
liberal. Two recent changes, the project to test liquor sales in
supermarkets which I mentioned before and optional Sunday
opening for liquor stores represent the only relaxing of the rules
I can remember in the last 30 years. Liquor store operators oppose
supermarket sales. Relatively few outlets open on Sunday, mostly
because there's not enough business.

When John and I were in the Quad Cities area (Davenport/Bettendorf, Iowa and
across the river, Moline and Rock Island, Illinois) we went to great lengths
to find a liquor store. He was under the impression we couldn't buy liquor
in that part of Iowa, and indeed, we did not see a liquor store. We must
have crossed the bridges 3 times searching for a store he remembered in
Illinois. Then one of his patrons said, "You do know you can buy liquor and
wine at the grocery store just down the street from where you are staying?"
Could have knocked us over with a feather!

Jill

Edwin Pawlowski said:

All sorts of connotations no matter what the state does. They say don't
drink because it is bad for you, but now our stores are open Sunday so you
can buy even more of it.

The states have discovered a new source of revenue. Drunk driving laws have
become a veritable gold mine. They couldn't give a flying fsck if you live
or die, but there's gold in them thar bills. Here in CA, first time DUI
victims can expect a financial hit as high as $10K. It's no wonder that
with the dramatic increase in DD laws and fines comes an increase in alcohol
advertising and availability. Notice how hard liquor is now being pushed on
tv after a 40yr absence. Coincidence? I think not.

nb

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Liquor store operators oppose
supermarket sales. Relatively few outlets open on Sunday, mostly
because there's not enough business.

Here in Colorado there is an old "blue law" that prohibits liquour sales on
Sundays. I think the liquor stores like it this way. We can only buy 3.2 beer
or wine coolers at grocery stores. So much for one-stop shopping!

Many of the liquour stores here are run sort of Mom-&-Pop and they seem to have
no other employees than mom and pop. They probably like having one day off a
week.

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All sorts of connotations no matter what the state does. They say don't
drink because it is bad for you, but now our stores are open Sunday so you
can buy even more of it.

If I decide to make a certain dish with wine I would like to be able to buy
that wine on Sunday. There have been little burps in the law. A certain
gourmet-type food store can sell Colorado wines on Sundays. We used to be able
to get brew to go on Sundays at the brewpub owned by our now-mayor. We had to
buy a jug and they would fill it.

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Small stores don't want the supermarkets to take their business. The number
of sales is about constant no matter how many outlets or how many hours they
are open. So, why add more hours and pay more labor for the same sales?
But if the guy down the street stays open an hour later, I must also.

Small stores would probably have to charge higher prices than grocery stores.

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I've never had a crisis because the liquor stores closed at 8:00 PM or are
not open Sunday. Even the local drunks learned to plan ahead. I prefer the
larger stores as they have a better selection to choose from. The state
controls the price so that is not a consideration in many states.

I would just like more one-stop shopping. If you're buying things at the
grocery store for a party, why not pick up the wine or other booze there, too?
You can do it in Michigan.

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Happy New Year!

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Grismalkin said:

Here in Colorado there is an old "blue law" that prohibits liquour sales on
Sundays. I think the liquor stores like it this way. We can only buy 3.2 beer
or wine coolers at grocery stores. So much for one-stop shopping!

No offense meant, but I found Colorado the most depressing place to find alcohol
when I was there a few years ago. We went to a place in Longmont that seemed to be
an old grocery store. There were only 4 or five aisles of stocked shelves and there
was a pitiful selection. I am used to paying $21.95 (Cdn.) for a 36 oz. bottle,
and they were charging $23.95 (US). That was a shocker. A bottle of wine or a 6
pack of beer was $3 more than I am used to paying. And I had thought that our
prices were steep. It certainly made me appreciate our government run stores.

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Small stores would probably have to charge higher prices than grocery stores.

They are probably already doing a higher markup than most corner store items.

Grismalkin said:

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Liquor store operators oppose
supermarket sales. Relatively few outlets open on Sunday, mostly
because there's not enough business.

Here in Colorado there is an old "blue law" that prohibits liquour sales on
Sundays. I think the liquor stores like it this way. We can only buy 3.2 beer
or wine coolers at grocery stores. So much for one-stop shopping!

Many of the liquour stores here are run sort of Mom-&-Pop and they seem to have
no other employees than mom and pop. They probably like having one day off a
week.

I believe that in Colorado all liquor stores are
independent, i.e. state law forbids an owner from
holding more than one liquor license, therefore
no chain stores and no liquor in grocery stores.
There are a few mega stores, but in general their
prices are not much better than the smaller stores.

When I lived in Massachusetts, you couldn't get a
drink in a restuarant before 1PM on Sunday and
liquor licenses were prohibited within x feet of
a church or school. As late as the 60's (before
the advent of malls), no retail was open Sundays.
The exception was that small stores and druggists who
sold the Sunday newspaper were allowed to open "for
convenience."

gloria p

Dave Smith said:

Grismalkin said:

Here in Colorado there is an old "blue law" that prohibits liquour sales on
Sundays. I think the liquor stores like it this way. We can only buy 3.2 beer
or wine coolers at grocery stores. So much for one-stop shopping!

No offense meant, but I found Colorado the most depressing place to find alcohol
when I was there a few years ago.

Hah. I guess you've never been to Utah!

gloria p

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Here in Colorado there is an old "blue law" that prohibits liquour sales on
Sundays. I think the liquor stores like it this way. We can only buy 3.2

beer

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or wine coolers at grocery stores. So much for one-stop shopping!

No offense meant, but I found Colorado the most depressing place to find

alcohol

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when I was there a few years ago.

Hah. I guess you've never been to Utah!

gloria p

A long time ago, we were camping by the Disney park in Florida. It was a dry

county, then. Maybe it isn't now. Actually, I wouldn't mind being in Florida
now as it is quite cold here.