Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying

(Jan) said:

There is NO hate whatsoever in my words, they are true.

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Their are Jews here and there are atheists,
(they are the ones who have told the group) with the
exception of IIena, they have proven themselves
to be liars, deceitful and insulters.

Furthmore, I called Andrew Kingoff a Jew Boy when
he posted the stupid blasphemy of the 10 commandments
here on the ng.

That's because most every atheist and jew here
has INDEED lied. They know it,
yet they cover for each other.

The group here are mostly atheists and jews,
(who falsely believe they are enlightened) and need
to have an argument going, thinking they can boast their
ego. They tell lies, twist what is said, and IMHO
are lead by Satan.

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA
who LIE through their tetth, do nothing
but belittle, and are filled with hate, are atheists or jews.

I repeat:
The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived
as Eve was when Satan debunked
God's word.
That was the start of debunking.
Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried
to debunk his words, and even
debunked his miracles whch happened right
before their eyes.

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him.
They debunked all his words and works,
and now debunking and lies are second
nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng,
with their vile false accusations and they are all filled
with hate.

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even
for the holocaust. When noone here was in any way
involved.

I think you [censored] experience has screwed up your brain.

The ones of the *gang* who have proclaimed they are Jewish,
have indeed lied, insulted and they are filled with hate.

Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over
and over, as well as posting nasty hateful lying websites
trying to personally trash. That is the facts.

There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
(on this ng).

To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those
who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,IT IS THE TRUTH.
To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.

We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
to them.

What's the big deal? Calling you a jew boy was
exactly because you are a jew. The same as you
calling me a methodist or baptist girl.
It doesn't even come close to all the names
you have called and your constant trash talk.

Little do you know anything about the
*10 Commandments* Jew Boy.

I think you [censored] experience has screwed up your brain.

In your queer mind.
In fact NOTHING you said was true.

Killfile them both is the only answer.
They are both quite *queer*.

How sad.
And STUPID.
And QUEER.

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> Funny how *these Jew people* run around calling everybody that disagrees
> with them anti-Semitic and have no clue what they are even saying.

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Richard H Jacobson (which I learned was a Jew just last week)

Poor Jan.

Aloha,

Rich
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Jan the Accuser said:

You are a LIAR who hasn't learned a thing since you lied about Cell Tech and
had to go to court.

Why haven't you been able to post EVEN ONE example of an
ORIGINAL POSTING that I made about Cell Tech or their
products which contained a lie or even a false statement?

Why is that? You accuse people of lying all the time
just because they disagree with you, but you never
back up your accusations with proof.

Do you need help seeing what an ORIGINAL POSTING
of a LIE looks like? Let me help you.

To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

Jan said:

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From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused anyone of
any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

Keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless you want everyone to block
your posts.
"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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An EXCELLENT example of *gang* behavior.

Jan the Accuser said:

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Then there is the tiny little thing like praying that something will

happen

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to

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others. It is noted that (which started the whole thing) isn't

mentioned.

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Typical from the *gang*.

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Oh, okay. I'll mention it.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.

aol.com

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There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to ANYONE OTHER

THAN

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GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON.

That's correct,feel free to prove it wrong. NO mention of praying that
something will happen to others.

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Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan.

Jan

Correct, no mention of praying that something will happen to others.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.

aol.com

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All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct

man

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to
pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ.

Correct. Do show it isn't. NO mention of praying that something will

happen to

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others.

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Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan.

Correct, a man made rule to confuse as is typical of Satan. No mention of
praying something will happen to others.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.

aol.com

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I have never mention Catholics.

You snipped. But in fact I haven't in regardng to praying. No mention of
praying something will happen to others.

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Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.

Absolutely true.

No mention of praying that something will happen to others.

You LIED AGAIN Mark.

The ONLY one who prayed that was Richard H Jacobson, cybersalkering and
harassing as is his habit. You are repeating this same pattern, like him

you

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transfer what YOU are guilty of to me.

You are a LIAR who hasn't learned a thing since you lied about Cell Tech

and

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had to go to court.

Plus your cheap tricks of follow up to alt. null.

There is NO hate whatsoever in my words, they are true.

The HATE comes from you, and you are STILL lying.

Jan

Butterfly said:

Keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless you want everyone to block
your posts.

Jan just cannot help herself. She wants to be able to spew her
anti-semitic drivel while telling the "Jew people" (Jan's own words)
to go to another group. Sad that.

Aloha,

Rich

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Jan who?????????????

"Butterfly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless you want everyone to block
your posts.
"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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An EXCELLENT example of *gang* behavior.

Jan the Accuser said:

> Then there is the tiny little thing like praying that something will

happen

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to
> others. It is noted that (which started the whole thing) isn't

mentioned.

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>
> Typical from the *gang*.

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Oh, okay. I'll mention it.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.

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aol.com

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There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to ANYONE

OTHER

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THAN

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GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON.

That's correct,feel free to prove it wrong. NO mention of praying that
something will happen to others.

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Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan.

Jan

Correct, no mention of praying that something will happen to others.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.

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aol.com

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All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct

man

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to
pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ.

Correct. Do show it isn't. NO mention of praying that something will

happen to

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others.

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Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan.

Correct, a man made rule to confuse as is typical of Satan. No mention

of

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praying something will happen to others.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.

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aol.com

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I have never mention Catholics.

You snipped. But in fact I haven't in regardng to praying. No mention of
praying something will happen to others.

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Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.

Absolutely true.

No mention of praying that something will happen to others.

You LIED AGAIN Mark.

The ONLY one who prayed that was Richard H Jacobson, cybersalkering and
harassing as is his habit. You are repeating this same pattern, like him

you

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transfer what YOU are guilty of to me.

You are a LIAR who hasn't learned a thing since you lied about Cell Tech

and

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had to go to court.

Plus your cheap tricks of follow up to alt. null.

There is NO hate whatsoever in my words, they are true.

The HATE comes from you, and you are STILL lying.

Jan

You are in BIG trouble.

Jan would love it if everyone blocked her posts. It would make her day. If
that were to happen, there would be no one around who could point out her
intellectual bankruptcy and perfidy.

"Butterfly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless you want everyone to block
your posts.
"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

An EXCELLENT example of *gang* behavior.

Jan the Accuser said:

> Then there is the tiny little thing like praying that something will

happen

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to
> others. It is noted that (which started the whole thing) isn't

mentioned.

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>
> Typical from the *gang*.

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Oh, okay. I'll mention it.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.

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aol.com

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There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to ANYONE

OTHER

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THAN

Quoted message said:

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GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON.

That's correct,feel free to prove it wrong. NO mention of praying that
something will happen to others.

Quoted message said:

Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan.

Jan

Correct, no mention of praying that something will happen to others.

Quoted message said:

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.

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aol.com

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All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct

man

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to
pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ.

Correct. Do show it isn't. NO mention of praying that something will

happen to

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others.

Quoted message said:

Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan.

Correct, a man made rule to confuse as is typical of Satan. No mention

of

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praying something will happen to others.

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Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.

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aol.com

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I have never mention Catholics.

You snipped. But in fact I haven't in regardng to praying. No mention of
praying something will happen to others.

Quoted message said:

Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.

Absolutely true.

No mention of praying that something will happen to others.

You LIED AGAIN Mark.

The ONLY one who prayed that was Richard H Jacobson, cybersalkering and
harassing as is his habit. You are repeating this same pattern, like him

you

Quoted message said:

transfer what YOU are guilty of to me.

You are a LIAR who hasn't learned a thing since you lied about Cell Tech

and

Quoted message said:

had to go to court.

Plus your cheap tricks of follow up to alt. null.

There is NO hate whatsoever in my words, they are true.

The HATE comes from you, and you are STILL lying.

Jan

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: "Butterfly" [email hidden]
Date: 6/10/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless you want everyone to block
your posts.

Your choice. As plainly seen, Mark Thorson brought it up again.

Perhaps this post is for him.

Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.

You also overlooked the fact that Mark is STILL lying.

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NO mention of praying that

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something will happen to others.

Jan

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Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 6/10/2004 1:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.

so says Jan

still waiting for the personal email she got from God giving her the heads up
to represent him/her

Jan does not GET it....SHE personally has no more credibility regarding God's
words then she does in human anatomy and physiology..

sad that...

perhaps a letter to all the pastors in her town is not that bad an idea...I
doubt a one would support her in this crusade...

sad that

hawki.....

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:20:44 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 10,

2004' M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

You are in BIG trouble.

Jan would love it if everyone blocked her posts. It would make her day. If
that were to happen, there would be no one around who could point out her
intellectual bankruptcy and perfidy.

Actually Jan would love it if those who *disagree* with her POV block
her posts. That way she could criticize them without any rebuttal.
That would really make her day.

To some extent she has succeeded. There are those who block her posts
and encourage others to do likewise. Jan is quite manipulative and has
managed to set up a dynamic in which dealing with her becomes so
intolerable that some figure the only way to deal with her is to
ignore her. If this is allowed to happen then she will be allowed to
spew her lies with impunity.

Millions of people get scammed by alternoquacks every day. To the
extent that the lies of the shills can be exposed we will all be doing
a great benefit to the public at large. While we cannot protect
everyone from the shills and scammers at least we can help *some* to
see through the smoke and mirrors. But to ignore the shills, scammers
and liars is to give in to them. And while it is completely an
exercise in futility in trying to discuss something with Jan and her
ilk, it is NOT an exercise in futility in exposing her [censored]. That
way readers can make up their own mind about what the truth is. But
without a dissenting opinion, the propaganda and lies go unchallenged.

Aloha,

Rich

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.
Jan

Jan does not give anyone the right to have their
religious believes other than how SHE sees it.
She speaks for GOD, as YOU should understand it.

What a phony Christian !

http://www.onlinerummaging.com/asbi/

"Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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perhaps a letter to all the pastors in her town is not that bad an

idea...I

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doubt a one would support her in this crusade...

sad that

hawki.....

Jan IS the pastor of her very own church.
"The Church According To Jan"

http://www.onlinerummaging.com/asbi/

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:45:56 GMT, "Coleah" <[email hidden]>

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.
Jan

Jan does not give anyone the right to have their
religious believes other than how SHE sees it.
She speaks for GOD, as YOU should understand it.

What a phony Christian !

Indeed. She is such a hypocrite. She proclaims that she is a Christian
and yet she regularly judges others for their beliefs. Her religion
tells her "judge not, lest you be judged" and yet Jan hypocritically
and repeatedly (countless thousands of times) violates this tenet
from Jesus, who she claims is the son of God. Sad that. If one
chooses to believe in a God other than the one that Jan believes in
then it is God and not Jan who will judge them according to her
religion.

Since Jan is obviously a pathologic narcissist, if Jesus himself
confronted Jan she would tell him that he was being led by Satan. Sad
that.

Aloha,

Rich

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What a phony Christian !

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http://www.onlinerummaging.com/asbi/

http://www.onlinerummaging.com/asbi/

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What a phony Christian !

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http://www.onlinerummaging.com/asbi/

(Jan) said:

Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.

Perfect!!

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Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 6/10/2004 3:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

(Jan) said:

Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.

Perfect!!

Yes, God's word is indeed perfect.

Jan

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Jan said:

You also overlooked the fact that Mark is STILL lying.

Why haven't you been able to post EVEN ONE example of an
ORIGINAL POSTING that I made about Cell Tech or their
products which contained a lie or even a false statement?

Why is that? You accuse people of lying all the time
just because they disagree with you, but you never
back up your accusations with proof.

Do you need help seeing what an ORIGINAL POSTING
of a LIE looks like? Let me help you.

To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

Jan said:

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From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused anyone of
any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

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Yes, God's word is indeed perfect.

God doesn't need your warped interpretation of His word , Jan Drew.

"2 Peter 1:20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of
scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation......."(RSV)

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 6/10/2004 3:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

(Jan) said:

Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
difference.

Perfect!!

Yes, God's word is indeed perfect.

Jan

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Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: "Janna" [email hidden]
Date: 6/10/2004 4:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Yes, God's word is indeed perfect.

God doesn't need your warped interpretation of His word , Jan Drew.

Nothing warped, nothing interpreted.

A false accusation.

Quoting of his word.

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"2 Peter 1:20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of
scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation......."(RSV)

21:For prophecy never came by the will of *man*, but the holy men of God spoke
as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

God also knows where this came from and he knows you lied.

Unable to deliver message to the following address(es) [email hidden]
Remote host said: 554 delivery error: This user doesn't have an
account

Jan

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Mark Thorson STILL lying
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 6/10/2004 3:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

>Furthermore these aren't religious beliefs, they are God's word. Big
>difference.

Perfect!!

Yes, God's word is indeed perfect.

Jan

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