Re : Mark MD's Hobby

Other than you posting the results of one of your myriad of
cleanses, was there a point to this post?

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040603191336.19105.00000495@mb-
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Not alternative medicine but Jan.

That's because Mark LIED in one of his early posts, and
was caught, then

he

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lost his temper. Sad that he hold grudges.

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<20040602133702.13763.00000187@mb-
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Subject: Re: Jan Drew, classic bigot From: "William A.
Noyes" [email hidden] Date: 6/2/2004 2:06 AM
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"Nana Weedkiller" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Ted Nidiffer/aka Nana is an atheist.

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> <Rich.@.> wrote in message

Richard H Jacobson is a known liar, badgering and
cyberstalker, who uses

ill

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and even dead parnet/s to belittle.

Mark overlooks that.

Mark MD is only too happy to read their sick posts and
repeat them.

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> > On 30 May 2004 01:23:08 GMT, [email hidden]
> > (Jan) wrote:
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> > >I have bashed no Catholics. In fact, our best
> > >friends are

Catholics.

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I have never mention Catholics.

Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed
comes from Satan.

Jan

Jan, have you actually talked to your best friends about
this view of yours? Have you told your Catholic friends
that when they "pray to saints" (as Catholics do) they are
actually engaging in something Satanic?

What did your friends say?

Mark, MD

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Jan.

That has been answered, look it up.

Jan

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 3, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Other than you posting the results of one of your myriad
of cleanses, was there a point to this post?

No, Jan doesn't have a point with this post. She doesn't
have a response to my (very valid) question, so she resorts
to unrelated postings which she hopes will redirect the
conversation.

Back to the point: Has Jan, in fact, confronted her "best
friends" about their supposed Satanic activities? [Jan
thinks that people who pray to saints {Catholics} are being
led astray by Satan] I'd guess not, since they (her Catholic
"best friends"😉 would certainly cease to want to have any
association with a lunatic that would hold such asinine
views...but she won't admit that because it would show that
she can't put her money where her mouth is.

Instead, she answers with "It's in the archives", as if
anyone will dredge through her thousands of postings to see
if she has ever answered the question before.

AFAIK, nobody has ever actually asked her this question
before. If she claims that she has been asked, and has
answered, this question in the past, I'll just assume she's
lying until she proves it by showing the post(s) where this
supposedly happened.

Ah, well. Back to the yardwork.

Mark, MD

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 3, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Other than you posting the results of one of your myriad
of cleanses, was there a point to this post?

No, Jan doesn't have a point with this post. She doesn't
have a response to my (very valid) question, so she resorts
to unrelated postings which she hopes will redirect the
conversation.

Back to the point: Has Jan, in fact, confronted her "best
friends" about their supposed Satanic activities? [Jan
thinks that people who pray to saints {Catholics} are being
led astray by Satan]

Cue Jan to say that this is off topic, that it is none of
your business, that she answered it before or that none of
her Catholic friends pray to Saints. What Jan will *not*
do is directly answer whether she thinks that Catholics
who pray to Saints are led astray by Satan. And the reason
that she won't is because she is deceitful, dishonest and
manipulative. If she was just mentally ill she would
likely immediately answer the question. But alas, Jan Drew
is a psychopath with no conscience and complete
indifference to others.

Aloha,

Rich

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Do show where in the bible people were instructed to pray
to Saints.

Do show where in the bible it says that Jan Drew has the
right to pass judgement about how other people pray.

--Rich

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Subject: Re: Mark MD's Hobby From: [email hidden]
(Mark) Date: 6/4/2004 1:30 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-
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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 3, 2004" <M.a.r.k
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Other than you posting the results of one of your
myriad of cleanses, was there a point to this post?

No, Jan doesn't have a point with this post. She doesn't
have a response to my (very valid) question

That's a blatant lie.

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Back to the point: Has Jan, in fact, confronted her "best
friends" about their supposed Satanic activities? [Jan
thinks that people who pray to saints {Catholics} are
being led astray by Satan] I'd guess not, since they (her
Catholic "best friends"😉 would certainly cease to want to
have any association with a

lunatic that would hold such

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asinine views..

Do show where in the bible people were instructed to pray
to Saints.

Show us where Catholic doctrine says to pray to saints.

It says that saints can be asked to intercede for us and
that they should be used as examples of how to live a
Christian life, not that they should be "prayed to."

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Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
|you inconvenience me with questions?"

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote...

...a bunch of misdirecting gobbledygook.

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My answer to your question: As far as I know, there is
nowhere in the Bible that directly instructs people to pray
to/through saints.

There. I've answered your question.

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Now, back to my question to you: Have you confronted your
"best friends" about their Satanic activities? I.E., the
fact that "praying to saints comes from Satan"?

Can you answer this question directly? I bet you won't.
(Hint: it'll be really easy to give a nice, low-bandwidth
answer by typing either "yes" or "no".)

Mark, MD

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Do show where in the bible people were instructed to pray
to Saints.

The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can get
closer to God.

Roger

"Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040604184920.19807.00000500@mb-
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Do show where in the bible people were instructed to
pray to Saints.

Do show where in the bible it says that Jan Drew has the
right to pass judgement about how other people pray.

--Rich

Perhaps Jan will comment on those who pray aloud in church,
prayer meetings, Bible studies, even the family dinner table
-- in light of Jesus' instructions that the faithful should
not be like the Pharisees (praying in public), but instead
should very privately talk to their Father in heaven?

If praying to saints is of Satan because Christians
weren't instructed to do so in the Bible, praying aloud in
the presence of others (contrary to specific instructions
from Jesus) must be straight from the toxic bowels of
Beelzebub as well.

"Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040604184920.19807.00000500@mb-
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Do show where in the bible people were instructed to
pray to Saints.

Do show where in the bible it says that Jan Drew has the
right to pass judgement about how other people pray.

--Rich

That whole parable where it says (paraphrased), "Judge not,
lest you be judged" seems to be beyond Our Lady Of
Judgement's comprehension.

Mark, MD

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can get
closer to God.

Roger

God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Jan

Your arrogance is showing. Any Muslim or Hindu could say
exactly the same thing, believe it just as strongly, and be
benefitted just as much.

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Therefore praying to Saints is a man made rule.

Praying in total is a man-made rule.

More about the liar Jan Drew :

geocities.comQuackery.htmlOpen ↗

To fall for the lies of Jan Drew can be a terrible risk for
the life of you and your children.

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
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Gemeinsam gegen Leukämie

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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Subject: Re: Mark MD's Hobby From: [email hidden]
(Mark) Date: 6/5/2004 11:08 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-
id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote...

...a bunch of misdirecting gobbledygook.

hmmmm, you sem to be interested in EVERY word I say. This
fulfills your hobby.

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My answer to your question: As far as I know, there is
nowhere in the Bible that directly instructs people to
pray to/through saints.

There. I've answered your question.

That's one. Thank you.

Therefore praying to Saints is a man made rule.

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Now, back to my question to you: Have you confronted your
"best friends" about their Satanic activities?

I.E., the fact that "praying

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to saints comes from Satan"?

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Can you answer this question directly?

I have posted the answer to this question.

LOOK IT UP!!

You haven't posted it anywhere that I have been able to
find. Please help ignurrant li'l ol' me and show me directly
where your answer can be found...or just tell the truth: you
have never answered any question about confronting your
"Satanic" best friends.

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I bet you won't. (Hint: it'll be really easy to give
a nice, low-bandwidth answer by typing either "yes"
or "no".)

Mark, MD

Hint: You only answer one question, there were two.

Do show us where St Jude is patron of lost causes.

I don't know; it's just what I've been told. But since
you seem to take a dim view of saints in general, what's
it to you?

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Then tell us what you think of Rich's post, where he is
praying that something will happen to me.

It's not my job to explain Rich's posts. I can't control how
he feels about you and your incessant spewing of bile.

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Furthermore, YOU don't make the rules of HOW I post.

No, I don't, but I can certainly call you to task for
shooting your mouth off and then refusing to explain
yourself.

Have you talked to your "best friends" about their Satanic
activities?

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Care to comment on this??

No, I don't care to. Do you care to answer my question?

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In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron
saint of lost causes, that something will happen that
prevents Jan from posting in thisnewsgroup since praying
that she will change would take more than a miracle.

Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered.
However I believe that there is justice in this world and
soon my prayers will beanswered. I am patient.

Aloha

Rich

I didn't think so.

What Rich posts about his prayers are *his* words and his
prayers, not mine. *Your* words about #1) praying to saints
"coming from Satan", and #2) your best friends being
Catholic (you know, those people who pray to saints), bring
me to the point where I ask, again: Have you talked to your
best friends about their Satanic activities?

Care to answer? Or are you a two-faced hypocrite who will
spout vile accusations on Usenet, but put on Mrs. Happy
Face in front of people she secretly thinks are in
Satan's thrall?

Mark, MD

On 6 Jun 2004 08:27:01 -0700, [email hidden]

(DappleAndWasser) said:

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<20040605193226.20943.00000481@mb-
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The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can get
closer to God.

Roger

God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Jan

Your arrogance is showing. Any Muslim or Hindu could say
exactly the same thing, believe it just as strongly, and be
benefitted just as much.

Jan thinks that those who don't pray to Jesus are led by
Satan. Sad that. Jan thinks that those who don't agree with
her are liars. Sad that. Actually the truth is that Jan does
*not* think.

Aloha,

Rich

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[email hidden] (DappleAndWasser) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<20040605193226.20943.00000481@mb-
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The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can
get closer to God.

Roger

God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Jan

Your arrogance is showing. Any Muslim or Hindu could say
exactly the same thing, believe it just as strongly, and
be benefitted just as much.

Now you've done it. Anyone who worships in ANY way
differently from Jan is, de facto, in the clutches of Satan
and destined to go straight to Hell. As far as we know up to
this point, Jews, atheists and Catholics are on the list.

We can, with a fair degree of certitude, conclude that
she feels the same way about Buddhists, Muslims,
animists, deists, Episcopalians and those of the Eastern
Orthodox faith.

Mark, MD

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Or are you a two-faced hypocrite who will spout vile
accusations on Usenet, but put on Mrs. Happy Face in front
of people she secretly thinks are in Satan's thrall?

That, dear Mr. Lowry, is THE typical Christian priest...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
Aktion "Hilfe für Florian und andere"
Gemeinsam gegen Leukämie

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ophoven.de/docs/typisfly2004.htm

"Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Nothing you need to bother with.

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Mark MD's Hobby From:
[email hidden] (DappleAndWasser) Date: 6/5/2004
3:12 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<20040604184920.19807.00000500@mb-
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Do show where in the bible people were instructed to
pray to Saints.

The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can get
closer to God.

Roger

God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Do not beleive everything you read in a box of Crackerjax.

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Subject: Re: Mark MD's Hobby From:
[email hidden] (DappleAndWasser) Date: 6/6/2004
7:27 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
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>The Bible does not have a monopoly on how people can
>get closer to

God.

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>Roger

God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Jan

Your arrogance is showing. Any Muslim or Hindu could say
exactly the same thing, believe it just as strongly, and
be benefitted just as much.

God's word is not ignorance.

Mr. Bird did not say "ignorance" but "arrogance". Doo brush
up on your reading skills.

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I repeat:

Yes, Jan, you do suffer from chronic obsessive compulsive
repeatitis.

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God does. He instructed us how to pray.

Jesus, his son is the mediator in prayer.

Jan

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The fact that you remain silent about Rich's prayer is
very telling.

Jan

What do you want me to say about Rich's prayer? That it's
unkind to pray for harm to befall someone? I do think
that's unkind. But if you want a more indepth discussion
about what Rich prays for and how he prays, you'll have to
ask him about it.

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*I'm* asking *you* about *your* words:

1) Praying to saints comes from Satan.

2) Your "best friends" are Catholic (and, by definition,
"pray to saints".)

My question, again (this is getting really tiresome): Have
you talked to your best friends about your belief that they
are engaging in activities directed by Satan?

Mark, MD