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  1. Barry Groves here in the UK has been LCing since 1962.

    http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/aboutbg.html

    Julie

    Ignoramus19260 said:

    Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to maintain weight?
    How did it affect them?

  2. Quoted message said:
    Ignoramus19260 said:

    Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to maintain weight?
    How did it affect them?

    I have been eating a Paleolithic Diet for 20 years. I eat no grains,
    beans, potatoes, milk of other animals or refined sugars. These are
    not edible to Primates without technological intervention.

    I'm now 53 years old, six feet tall, 150 lbs ( 7% body fat). I no
    longer have diabetes or arthritis. I never work out but have
    excellent muscle definition and jogers have problems keeping up with
    me and my hawk when I take them hunting. I eat like a pig often
    consuming 9 hamburger paties ( 3 "triples" hold the buns) when I go to
    McDonalds. I have eaten a full pound of bacon every morning for the
    entire twenty years.

    My son Gray-Hawk has been eating this way since conception. When he
    weaned himself from his mother at age one he ate almost nothing but
    pemmican ( the ultimate low-carb food)for over one year. He's now nine
    and considered a gifted athlete, tested at genius level I.Q. and is a
    very gifted artist.

    Increased animal fat consumption since the invention of railroads and
    refrigeration has added more years to our lives than any other
    statistical factor. Recent nutrition studies of hundred year olds
    done by a leading medical school ( U of Georgia see biblography at
    website))have shown that these long-lived individuals difer from the
    rest of us only in that they eat more saturated animal fat than most
    people.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  3. Thank you Ray, a very inspiring post. Can you detail your condition
    prior to starting your diet? Was it much worse than your present
    condition? Do you eat cooked products? (I noticed you referrnig to
    eating bacon, but I eat it raw, so maybe so do you)

    i

    In article said:
    Quoted message said:
    Ignoramus19260 said:

    Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to maintain weight?
    How did it affect them?

    I have been eating a Paleolithic Diet for 20 years. I eat no grains,
    beans, potatoes, milk of other animals or refined sugars. These are
    not edible to Primates without technological intervention.

    I'm now 53 years old, six feet tall, 150 lbs ( 7% body fat). I no
    longer have diabetes or arthritis. I never work out but have
    excellent muscle definition and jogers have problems keeping up with
    me and my hawk when I take them hunting. I eat like a pig often
    consuming 9 hamburger paties ( 3 "triples" hold the buns) when I go to
    McDonalds. I have eaten a full pound of bacon every morning for the
    entire twenty years.

    My son Gray-Hawk has been eating this way since conception. When he
    weaned himself from his mother at age one he ate almost nothing but
    pemmican ( the ultimate low-carb food)for over one year. He's now nine
    and considered a gifted athlete, tested at genius level I.Q. and is a
    very gifted artist.

    Increased animal fat consumption since the invention of railroads and
    refrigeration has added more years to our lives than any other
    statistical factor. Recent nutrition studies of hundred year olds
    done by a leading medical school ( U of Georgia see biblography at
    website))have shown that these long-lived individuals difer from the
    rest of us only in that they eat more saturated animal fat than most
    people.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  4. Here's what I ate yesterday

    1 slice of sourdough bread
    300 grams of smoked beef brisket
    2.5 lbs of tomatoes
    1 lbs of cabbage
    3 medium raw eggs
    2 ounces of brazil nuts
    1 big peach
    1/6 cup of oatmeal

    This is not incredibly far from the paleo diet, although, obviously,
    bread and oatmeal are not "paleo".

    i

    In article said:

    Thank you Ray, a very inspiring post. Can you detail your condition
    prior to starting your diet? Was it much worse than your present
    condition? Do you eat cooked products? (I noticed you referrnig to
    eating bacon, but I eat it raw, so maybe so do you)

    i

    In article said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ignoramus19260 wrote:
    > Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to maintain weight?
    > How did it affect them?

    I have been eating a Paleolithic Diet for 20 years. I eat no grains,
    beans, potatoes, milk of other animals or refined sugars. These are
    not edible to Primates without technological intervention.

    I'm now 53 years old, six feet tall, 150 lbs ( 7% body fat). I no
    longer have diabetes or arthritis. I never work out but have
    excellent muscle definition and jogers have problems keeping up with
    me and my hawk when I take them hunting. I eat like a pig often
    consuming 9 hamburger paties ( 3 "triples" hold the buns) when I go to
    McDonalds. I have eaten a full pound of bacon every morning for the
    entire twenty years.

    My son Gray-Hawk has been eating this way since conception. When he
    weaned himself from his mother at age one he ate almost nothing but
    pemmican ( the ultimate low-carb food)for over one year. He's now nine
    and considered a gifted athlete, tested at genius level I.Q. and is a
    very gifted artist.

    Increased animal fat consumption since the invention of railroads and
    refrigeration has added more years to our lives than any other
    statistical factor. Recent nutrition studies of hundred year olds
    done by a leading medical school ( U of Georgia see biblography at
    website))have shown that these long-lived individuals difer from the
    rest of us only in that they eat more saturated animal fat than most
    people.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  5. Ray Audette wrote:
    ::: Ignoramus19260 wrote:
    :::: Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to maintain
    :::: weight? How did it affect them?
    ::
    :: I have been eating a Paleolithic Diet for 20 years. I eat no grains,
    :: beans, potatoes, milk of other animals or refined sugars. These are
    :: not edible to Primates without technological intervention.
    ::
    :: I'm now 53 years old, six feet tall, 150 lbs ( 7% body fat). I no
    :: longer have diabetes or arthritis. I never work out but have
    :: excellent muscle definition and jogers have problems keeping up with
    :: me and my hawk when I take them hunting. I eat like a pig often
    :: consuming 9 hamburger paties ( 3 "triples" hold the buns) when I go
    :: to McDonalds. I have eaten a full pound of bacon every morning for
    :: the entire twenty years.

    Wow...

    ::
    :: My son Gray-Hawk has been eating this way since conception. When he
    :: weaned himself from his mother at age one he ate almost nothing but
    :: pemmican ( the ultimate low-carb food)for over one year. He's now
    :: nine and considered a gifted athlete, tested at genius level I.Q.
    :: and is a very gifted artist.

    Wow...

    ::
    :: Increased animal fat consumption since the invention of railroads and
    :: refrigeration has added more years to our lives than any other
    :: statistical factor. Recent nutrition studies of hundred year olds
    :: done by a leading medical school ( U of Georgia see biblography at
    :: website))have shown that these long-lived individuals difer from the
    :: rest of us only in that they eat more saturated animal fat than most
    :: people.
    ::
    :: Ray Audette
    :: Author "NeanderThin"
    :: www.NeanderThin.com

    Wow...

    Honestly, I thought you a troll. I'd like to hear a lot more from you
    here....

  6. Ray Audette said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ignoramus19260 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do you know of anyone who lowcarbed for decades, to
    maintain weight? How did it affect them?

    The FDA only released their Food Pyramid in 1992, so I have a better
    question: Is there anyone in the world who has eaten by the Food
    Pyramid guidelines for two decades? Which is to say they were
    already doing it before the guideline was published. Yes, it is
    that recent. How did it effect them?

    Quoted message said:

    I have been eating a Paleolithic Diet for 20 years.

    I've read your book. Thanks.

    Quoted message said:

    I eat no grains,
    beans, potatoes, milk of other animals or refined sugars.

    Interesting phrasing "milk of other animals".

    Quoted message said:

    I never work out

    Your book has an exercise program. Why don't you call that
    working out?

    Quoted message said:

    but have excellent muscle definition and jogers have problems
    keeping up with me and my hawk when I take them hunting.

    You mention falconry in your book. How many have you outlived
    so far? Facinating pets I bet.

    Quoted message said:

    Increased animal fat consumption since the invention of railroads and
    refrigeration has added more years to our lives than any other
    statistical factor.

    I bet it's actually second. Sewage treatment to have ready
    access to clean fresh water likely beats it by a bit.

    Quoted message said:

    Recent nutrition studies of hundred year olds
    done by a leading medical school ( U of Georgia see biblography at
    website))have shown that these long-lived individuals difer from the
    rest of us only in that they eat more saturated animal fat than most
    people.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  7. [email hidden] (Doug Freyburger) wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    The FDA only released their Food Pyramid in 1992, so I have a better
    question: Is there anyone in the world who has eaten by the Food
    Pyramid guidelines for two decades? Which is to say they were
    already doing it before the guideline was published. Yes, it is
    that recent. How did it effect them?


    see:
    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.

    This article is about Sumo wrestlers in Japan who have been following
    (exactly) the USDA Food Pyramid for centuries. They also work out
    strenously every day. They have the highest occupational rate of
    heart disease in the world!

    I went to an obesity conference here in Dallas a few years ago. Of the
    13 weight-loss experts in attendence( from Harvard, Yale, The Cooper
    Clinic,etc.) I was the only one who was not over-weight. Of course
    none of them knew that the Japanese had preceded them in their
    theories centuries before. We can learn much from traditions far
    older than our own.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  8. In article said:

    [email hidden] (Doug Freyburger) wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    The FDA only released their Food Pyramid in 1992, so I have a better
    question: Is there anyone in the world who has eaten by the Food
    Pyramid guidelines for two decades? Which is to say they were
    already doing it before the guideline was published. Yes, it is
    that recent. How did it effect them?


    see:
    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.

    This article is about Sumo wrestlers in Japan who have been following
    (exactly) the USDA Food Pyramid for centuries. They also work out
    strenously every day. They have the highest occupational rate of
    heart disease in the world!

    I went to an obesity conference here in Dallas a few years ago. Of the
    13 weight-loss experts in attendence( from Harvard, Yale, The Cooper
    Clinic,etc.) I was the only one who was not over-weight. Of course
    none of them knew that the Japanese had preceded them in their
    theories centuries before. We can learn much from traditions far
    older than our own.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    I bought your book Ray. Have not yet received it. I am curious, you
    eat so much meat and bacon, how are your blood lipids? Also, you said
    you eat a pound of bacon in the morning, do you eat anything else? Is
    that cooked or raw bacon?

    I also decided to make some pemmican, my meat is drying right now.

    i

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