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  1. Ig, decent race for your first HM. You make many assumptions, including
    that your glycogen reserves were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating
    ample protein can fill your glycogen stores.

    If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps most,
    low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It seems you're
    trying to show something in general from an experiment-of-one. You sound a
    bit like an old friend of mine who's a vegan -- and far too religious about
    it.

    I was impressed reading about Stu Mittleman's accomplishments, and the fact
    that he did many of them while eating controlled carb. So if you want to
    learn the extremes *one* person has taken a dietary change to, then read his
    book. That being said, it's not for everybody. What you're doing has been
    tried before by many, with many different results.

    - Tony

  2. On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:21:30 GMT, "Tony"

    qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com said:

    Ig, decent race for your first HM. You make many assumptions, including
    that your glycogen reserves were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating
    ample protein can fill your glycogen stores.

    If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps most,
    low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It seems you're
    trying to show something in general from an experiment-of-one. You sound a
    bit like an old friend of mine who's a vegan -- and far too religious about
    it.


    i turned vegetarian a few months ago. i eat tons of carbs. and i
    feel good too. it all comes down to what makes you feel
    good and is healthy in the long term. i really doubt
    if eating fatty north american meat is healthy. so i
    stopped. but i don't care what anybody else eats.

    and ignoramus, good run. keep it up.
    ....thehick

  3. Well, they certainly prove possibility.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Ignoramus12690 <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | Thanks, I just ordered his book, out of curiosity. I hope that it will
    | be entertaining. No doubt, "experiments on one" are usually not proofs
    | of general concepts applicable to others. And yet, they can point out
    | to interesting results.
    |
    | i

  4. "Ignoramus12690" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article _9I5d.16999$Wa7.4167@trndny06 said:

    Ig, decent race for your first HM.

    Thank you.

    Quoted message said:

    You make many assumptions, including that your glycogen reserves
    were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating ample protein can
    fill your glycogen stores.

    That's interesting and makes sense to me. Is there any way to measure
    glycogen reserves?

    Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein becomes
    glycogen?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps
    most, low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It
    seems you're trying to show something in general from an
    experiment-of-one. You sound a bit like an old friend of mine who's
    a vegan -- and far too religious about it.

    I was impressed reading about Stu Mittleman's accomplishments, and
    the fact that he did many of them while eating controlled carb. So
    if you want to learn the extremes *one* person has taken a dietary
    change to, then read his book. That being said, it's not for
    everybody. What you're doing has been tried before by many, with
    many different results.

    Thanks, I just ordered his book, out of curiosity. I hope that it will
    be entertaining. No doubt, "experiments on one" are usually not proofs
    of general concepts applicable to others. And yet, they can point out
    to interesting results.

    i

  5. Sam wrote in message .........

    Quoted message said:

    Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein


    becomes

    Quoted message said:

    glycogen?

    Ok, I don't know this as fact. When I was experimenting with the Paleo diet
    myself, I read in several places (probably in different paleo and low-carb
    books) that when you eat excess protein beyond what the body needs, it will
    be broken down into either carbohydrates or fats.

    - Tony

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam said:

    Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein becomes
    glycogen?

    Can't glucose from gluconeogenesis be an input to to glycogenesis?

    Andrew

  7. Ignoramus16074 wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam said:

    Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein


    becomes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    glycogen?

    Can't glucose from gluconeogenesis be an input to to glycogenesis?

    Andrew

    I thought about these questions overnight and realized a simple thing.

    It is easy to verify if I am out of glycogen. All I need to do is to
    "carb up", without overeating calories too much, and drink water not
    to be thirsty. If I suddenly gain a few pounds, these can be assumed
    to be new glycogen reserves. So, if I carb up and gain pounds, then I
    would know that I was out of glycogen before that.

    Now, what we do know is that gaining a few pounds after carbing up is
    typical for lowcarbers. Also it is typical to lose a few lbs upon
    commencement of an LC diet. It is that "water loss from Atkins" that
    is mentioned to disparage Atkins diet.

    This makes me comfortably convinced that indeed, I was very low on
    glycogen prior to the run.

    Yes this is highly possible, but also you're not attempting to lose weight
    on the diet. It makes sense to assume at least that your glycogen reserves
    weren't full.

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