Re: LC and running

Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| Placid, thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
||

that's exactly what you're looking for? The comments are summaries written
by Atkins professionals. I'd think you'd want something a little more
impartial.

You wrote:

|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?

Sure, provided you aren't pushing HR too high or building up lactic acid
while doing it.

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|| In article <[email hidden]>, PlacidBull
|| wrote:
||| An article on the subject.
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||| http://atkins.com/Archive/2002/1/11-902958.html
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||| Placid
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||| "Ignoramus26859" <[email hidden]> wrote in
||| message news:[email hidden]...
|||| After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
|||| endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by the
|||| end of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started
|||| running. I cannot scientifically explain why that is so.
||||
|||| Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and maybe
|||| run a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I end
|||| up will depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.
||||
|||| My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences
|||| here?
||||
|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?
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When switching from a high carb, low fat fitness
diet, enzymatic changes occur. Enzymes which burn fat become
increasingly
active with decrease in carbohydrates, and the body
increases
the storage of fat for added energy source. This explains
why
animals deprived of carbs show no decreased endurance
performing
high intensity exercises. Studies show that since high-fat
rats
have fat as an additional sources of energy, while high carb
rats
are limited to their carbohydrate stores, rats on a fat diet
showed
greater endurance than rats on a carbohydrate diet.

source: http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/DietFfitness.htm

Placid
203/149/150

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| Placid, thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
||

that's exactly what you're looking for? The comments are summaries
written
by Atkins professionals. I'd think you'd want something a little more
impartial.

You wrote:

|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?

Sure, provided you aren't pushing HR too high or building up lactic acid
while doing it.

|| i
||
|| In article <[email hidden]>, PlacidBull
|| wrote:
||| An article on the subject.
|||
||| http://atkins.com/Archive/2002/1/11-902958.html
|||
||| Placid
||| 203/149/150
|||
||| "Ignoramus26859" <[email hidden]> wrote in
||| message news:[email hidden]...
|||| After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
|||| endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by the
|||| end of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started
|||| running. I cannot scientifically explain why that is so.
||||
|||| Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and maybe
|||| run a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I end
|||| up will depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.
||||
|||| My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences
|||| here?
||||
|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?
||||
|||| i

Yeah, but there seems to be some limit (supposedly) at which the body
won't burn fat and wants to burn carbs. So, high intensity exercise
supposedly needs more carbs than low intensity.

PlacidBull said:

When switching from a high carb, low fat fitness
diet, enzymatic changes occur. Enzymes which burn fat
become
increasingly
active with decrease in carbohydrates, and the body
increases
the storage of fat for added energy source. This explains
why
animals deprived of carbs show no decreased endurance
performing
high intensity exercises. Studies show that since
high-fat
rats
have fat as an additional sources of energy, while high
carb
rats
are limited to their carbohydrate stores, rats on a fat
diet
showed
greater endurance than rats on a carbohydrate diet.

source: http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/DietFfitness.htm

Placid
203/149/150

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| Placid, thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
||

that's exactly what you're looking for? The comments are summaries
written
by Atkins professionals. I'd think you'd want something a little more
impartial.

You wrote:

|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?

Sure, provided you aren't pushing HR too high or building up lactic acid
while doing it.

|| i
||
|| In article <[email hidden]>, PlacidBull
|| wrote:
||| An article on the subject.
|||
||| http://atkins.com/Archive/2002/1/11-902958.html
|||
||| Placid
||| 203/149/150
|||
||| "Ignoramus26859" <[email hidden]> wrote in
||| message news:[email hidden]...
|||| After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
|||| endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by the
|||| end of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started
|||| running. I cannot scientifically explain why that is so.
||||
|||| Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and maybe
|||| run a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I end
|||| up will depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.
||||
|||| My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences
|||| here?
||||
|||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
|||| fat as primary source of energy?
||||
|||| i

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Quoted message said:

Placid, thanks, exactly what I was looking for!

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I think it would be more accurate to say, that is what you wanted to hear.
Kind of like a salesman that convinced you when you were ripe for the
picking. 😉

Carbs are the best fuel for running and bicycling and any endurance exercise
IMHO. I ride my bike on LC and sometimes I carb load. I have also run on
both. There is a pretty big difference in the way I perform and feel. When
I am on LC, I can do okay and finish, but I don't feel all that great. When
I eat carbs before an event, it is much better and I feel like I have more
energy. Now, here is the good news. For me, if I ride 40 miles or so, it
doesn't make that big of a difference what I eat, so I can stay LC for those
rides pretty easily. If I ride 50+ that usually poses a problem. Do I
finish? Yes, but I am out of gas pretty much.

This is my experience. That doesn't mean that everyone is this way, just
me. I train LC and when I need to go fast with a group on a long ride, I
load up on the carbs. It works for me. I figure by training LC, it may
make me stronger. I don't know, but it is working pretty well.

Hope this helps,
Curt

Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Zoul wrote:
||| Ignoramus26859 wrote:
||||| Placid, thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
|||||
|||
||| that's exactly what you're looking for? The comments are summaries
||| written by Atkins professionals. I'd think you'd want something a
||| little more impartial.
||
|| Well, it seems like a simple enough study, subjects on LC could
|| endure
|| more than they would under HC, at low intensity. So, I think, it
|| would
|| be unlikely to be misreported. I am personally satisfied, although if
|| you show me the original abstract and show that I am wrong, I will
|| appreciate that.

While I have no specific reasons to doubt the study, a general rule to
follow is to NEVER accept as gospel truth the results of just one study.
Obviously, it is useful to have as a single data point, and you can continue
to compare your own experiences to it.

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||| You wrote:
|||
||||||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
||||||| fat as primary source of energy?
|||
||| Sure, provided you aren't pushing HR too high or building up lactic
||| acid while doing it.
||
|| Thank you.
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|||||
||||| In article <[email hidden]>, PlacidBull
||||| wrote:
|||||| An article on the subject.
||||||
|||||| http://atkins.com/Archive/2002/1/11-902958.html
||||||
|||||| Placid
|||||| 203/149/150
||||||
|||||| "Ignoramus26859" <[email hidden]> wrote in
|||||| message news:[email hidden]...
||||||| After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
||||||| endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by
||||||| the
||||||| end of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started
||||||| running. I cannot scientifically explain why that is so.
|||||||
||||||| Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and
||||||| maybe
||||||| run a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I
||||||| end
||||||| up will depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.
|||||||
||||||| My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences
||||||| here?
|||||||
||||||| Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body
||||||| fat as primary source of energy?
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