Re: Large Marge 24

well?

what was it like?

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I rode all three days this weekend on the LM 24 (w/ Profile, Duro).
Yesterday we trundled down Tunnel, in Santa Barbara--an acid test for
the wheelset.

A few thoughts: Run the tire pressure low. A hard tire on the LM makes
bumps and rocks almost unridable. Drop the psi and the fat rim rocks. I
started Tunnel at 23 psi, kept getting bucked off, dropped down to 18
psi and went to town. At one point I side hopped up a rock slab that
normally would have folded my tire right off a smaller DH rim.

Biggest single advantage--lack of side to side movement of the tire over
the rim. Second, how the wider profile of the tire/rim absorbs shock
loading with scant rebound or recoil. The tire simply deadens bumps and
drops. And without lateral tire movement on the rim, it handles with
great responsiveness.

We'll need more opinions from other riders for anything definitive, but
for my money, the LM is a keeper for rocky rolling, drops, and
serpentine steep lines requiring snap directional changes. The slight
weight increase is imperceptable. I won't go back to the thin rim. A
bouncy tire is a often a boon for street riding, but hardcore street
riders don't ride a 24.

JL

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done any more riding on it yet? anymore thoughts?

is it the best thing ever? 😎

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vivalargo said:

*A bouncy tire is a often a boon for street riding, but hardcore
street riders don't ride a 24.

JL *

Dont say that in front of Justin Kozy...

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men u r so stupid good street riders dont ride 24" ? YOUR MOM DOSENT
RIDE A 24" look at justin men he pwns at street

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maxisbackintown said:

*men u r so stupid ... YOUR MOM DOSENT RIDE A 24" ... *

Can someone lend me a knife? I've got this huge dish of irony and I'd
love to share it with everyone.

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vivalargo -

Is this on the frame from that yellow muni you had built?

"Yellow Toucan" I believe it was monikered.

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thanx alot, you thread jackin scum bags!

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To bring this back, (sorry jagur) I've been riding with vivalargo quite
a bit in recent weeks, and the wide rim definitely has had continued
visible effects.

Most notably, the wheel sticks right to the ground, even when there are
strange angles in play. In some spots, I'd get ejected from the muni by
the recoil of a folded tire, only to watch largo land with a 'thok' and
easily roll out of it (on his yellow/blue/red muni frame). It's an
awesome rim.

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stop cryng [censored]

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I'll say it again. If you ride on rocky terrain, the LM rim is an
advantage--noticable but not enormous--because it deadens rebound during
drops and "tractoring," plus the tire lays so wide on the rim there is
virtually no foldover on side hops and gapping. I weigh 210 and kept
tweaking (and bend a DX32 rim Uturn expertly built for me) thinner rims
up in Santa Barbara. The LM feels indestructable.

If you ride mainly on dirt and so forth, the LM won't give an advantage,
but if you live on the rocks, I say suck it up, spend the 100 bucks and
start cleaning stuff that used to buck you off repeatedly. No rim is
gonna make you a better rider, but the LM can exploit the talent you do
have.

JL

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vivalargo said:

* I say suck it up, spend the 100 bucks and start cleaning stuff that
used to buck you off repeatedly. No rim is gonna make you a better
rider, but the LM can exploit the talent you do have.
*

i already have one. it was $115.

i brought your thread back up just to ask if you had any differant
thoughts after the "honey moon" expieriance. all sounds good so far.

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just get a reiforced alex32

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I've had a Stockton 24" LM/Profile/Gazz wheel for a few weeks now, but
unfortunately haven't had much opportunity to ride it yet. The highs in
Phoenix are still hitting above 100F.

I was able to get out of town the weekend before last for some riding,
though. It feels -very- stable; aggressive downhill is an absolute
blast. I'll post a more detailed opinion after it cools down enough in
town to ride local trails. I've only ridden it on virgin trails, so
far--it will be much easier to tell how it compares to other wheels on
trails I've ridden dozens of times.

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maxisbackintown said:

*just get a reiforced alex32 *

sure. but this thread isnt about that..this thread is about the LM
rim.

make a thread of your own about the delites of the Alex.

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maxisbackintown said:

*stop cryng [censored] *

Why are you not banned yet? You never contribute to the threads you post
in, and now you're also getting offensive.

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Thanks to vivalargo and co for your info on the LM24.

And absolutely no thanks whatsoever to maxxisbackintown for being plain
annoying on the forum.

I have bought myself one (imported from the US) and had it fitted to my
'04 onza cranks/hub.
I also run a duro (or Halo Contra in the UK) but I had trouble getting
it seated on the rim properly. When it was sitting properly, it was
rubbing on the brake mounts. So I'm just about to go get it from the
bike shop where the dude has been instructed to remove my brake
mounts.

Thanks again for your info. Gives me an idea of what to expect. I'll
let you know what mine is like once I've ridden it a bit.

T.

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Dark Tom--

The brake mount problem is real. I'm used to using a brake on the steep
dirt single tracks and long fire road ascents/descents in my hometown,
Venice, Cal. The LM rim is, as you pointed out, too wide for the
brake/brake mount set up where they are normally situated (welded) on
either a Literider or KH 24 frame. The solution is to fabricate a
simple plate that screws onto the existing mounts, but features holes in
the plate that are 3/8s to 7/16s wider than the holes on the standard
mount. That's the theory, anyway. I have a friend handy in metal fab
working those up for me now and I'll report back once I have them,
possibly this wekend. The main question is if they will be too far out
and rub on my leg. If so, it looks like we'll have to run the LM sans
brake.

JL

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Last initial observation/experience: don't use a Gaz on the LM 24. The
wide rim so flattens out the tred you end up with a clunky rig difficult
to turn. Stick with a rounder tire (I'm using a Duro) to avoid turning
your Muni into a tractor.

I've put in perhaps 10 muni rides on the LM so far and yesterday when I
briefly switched back to a reg. 24 wheelset it felt markedly less stable
and, oddly enough, less responsive and precise than the LM.

JL

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