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  1. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
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    I had the feeling two years ago that Lance and Floyd were not close when
    they were on Postal. Their personalities were like oil and water. They
    just
    didn't mix. I also get the feeling Lance has been affected by his success
    and sometimes likes to exert his status at the expense of other people.

    That's certainly at odds with Lance's last book, in which he basically
    claims to have taken Landis under his wing and watched out for him. And of
    course everything that's written in a book must be true, whether it's
    written by Lance or Walsh...

    Personally, those books make me want to throw up. However ...

    Does anyone besides me remember a stage last year that Lance tried to
    set Floyd up to win? It went to hell when Ullrich caught them on a
    descent a few km from the finish. Lance won in a sprint over Kloden, I
    believe. I'd have to go back over the DVD's but I believe this was just
    before Alpe D'Huez.

    It sure didn't appear that there was a grudge between them, their
    "personalities were like oil and water" or anything like that.

  2. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:


    But then again, recent discoveries about Tyler Hamilton have made Walsh'
    book more credible, too.

    1. What did you think of Walsh's book before the recent discoveries about
    Hamilton?
    2. Which Hamilton discoveries in particular made the book more credible?

  3. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

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    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    >I had the feeling two years ago that Lance and Floyd were not


    close when

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    >they were on Postal. Their personalities were like oil and water.


    They

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    >just
    >didn't mix. I also get the feeling Lance has been affected by his


    success

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    >and sometimes likes to exert his status at the expense of other


    people.

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    That's certainly at odds with Lance's last book, in which he


    basically

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    claims to have taken Landis under his wing and watched out for


    him. And

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    of

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    course everything that's written in a book must be true, whether


    it's

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    written by Lance or Walsh...

    Personally, those books make me want to throw up. However ...

    Does anyone besides me remember a stage last year that Lance tried


    to

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    set Floyd up to win? It went to hell when Ullrich caught them on a
    descent a few km from the finish. Lance won in a sprint over


    Kloden, I

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    believe. I'd have to go back over the DVD's but I believe this was


    just

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    before Alpe D'Huez.

    It sure didn't appear that there was a grudge between them, their
    "personalities were like oil and water" or anything like that.


    Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

    But then again, recent discoveries about Tyler Hamilton have made


    Walsh'

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    book more credible, too.

    And then the failure of LA to have tested postive during the last year,
    makes Walsh' claims less credibe, too. But then there wasn't much
    there to begin with.

    ray

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    Quoted message said:
    Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:


    But then again, recent discoveries about Tyler Hamilton have made Walsh'
    book more credible, too.

    1. What did you think of Walsh's book before the recent discoveries about
    Hamilton?
    2. Which Hamilton discoveries in particular made the book more credible?

    My point was, for those who need it spelled out a bit more, that you can't
    point at just one incident and say: "hey it's true! Armstrong and Landis are
    actually good friends because he tried to set the other up to win!" What do
    we know? Landis might even have appreciated Armstrong's gesture.

    As for Walsh' book, I'm entirely biased because I think Armstrong uses
    doping anyway. So there's bound to be something you can reveal about him,
    for whatever reason. But Walsh seems fixed on one rider and I really don't
    see the point of that. In fact I think it's unfair. Doping doesn't begin or
    end with Armstrong.

  5. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

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    Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:


    But then again, recent discoveries about Tyler Hamilton have made
    Walsh' book more credible, too.

    1. What did you think of Walsh's book before the recent discoveries
    about Hamilton?
    2. Which Hamilton discoveries in particular made the book more
    credible?

    My point was, for those who need it spelled out a bit more, that you
    can't point at just one incident [snip]

    Hmmm. If you believe that, why would you think any one incident involving
    Hamilton makes Walsh's book (which isn't really about Hamilton) more
    credible?

  6. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

    "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
    >
    > But then again, recent discoveries about Tyler Hamilton have made
    > Walsh' book more credible, too.

    1. What did you think of Walsh's book before the recent discoveries
    about Hamilton?
    2. Which Hamilton discoveries in particular made the book more
    credible?

    My point was, for those who need it spelled out a bit more, that you
    can't point at just one incident [snip]

    Hmmm. If you believe that, why would you think any one incident involving
    Hamilton makes Walsh's book (which isn't really about Hamilton) more
    credible?

    Honestly, I don't. It was sarcasm, and a jab at people who really do believe
    that their hero Armstrong was tainted when Hamilton got caught.

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