RE: Kumar's question about hunger/cravings.

montygram,

Thanks. I am a diabetic & eat more due to excess craving of taking
snacks, food etc. Probably, this excess craving may be due to dibetic
medicines or due to insulin resistance. I am unable to control this
even sugar level is very high. But I tried by discontinuning & reducing
table salt with food. To my surprise, my excess craving for snacks,
excess food etc. become almost nil after that. Then I again started
salt, craving was also similarily returned. Can you tell how it had
happened?

Althought aternative ancient system, following link tells something
related to it:-

"What to Eat
Ayurveda recognizes six tastes - sweet, sour, salty, pungent, bitter
and astringent and six main qualities (see below). All foods have one
or more of these tastes and Ayurveda says that you should take foods
including all six tastes at each main meal. If any taste is missed out
it tends to cause a craving for it.
http://www.maharishi.co.uk/DietaryGuidelines.htm "

Whether, salty, sweat & sour tastes are related to each other? It tells
that there are different sets of food type which are related to each
other.

Kumar:

If you are "type II," you should try a little nutritional yeast with
each meal. Biochemist Ray Peat has mentioned that his father was told
in the 1930s (by his doctor) that he had diabetes and should go on a
"brewer's yeast diet," which cleared the problem up in a month or so.
However, you must get the free radical damage down, and this means no
more food with more than trace amounts of unsaturated fatty acids.
Butter is okay, coconut oil is better, but make sure they are fresh.
Dark chocolate, berries, and white tea would be good to eat as well.
Cheese is fine, as long as it's not homogenized, so stay away from "low
fat," "no fat" stuff. Breyer's Natural Vanilla ice cream is good too.
About a teaspoon of nutritional yeast with each meal should be good.

Let me know how things turn out, but do not "cheat" and eat the wrong
things. If you need "meat" boiled eggs and boiled shellfish are not
just okay, but good, while fish and chicken are problematic. White
fish with little fat content is okay, but remember to boil it. Do not
cook while exposed to air. You can boil food that needs it, then warm
it up in a pan with herbs, spices, butter, sherry, whatever.

montygram,

Thanks. Brewer's yeast in rich in chromium, which is helpful in IR
condition.

But, how to control cravings, that is very important? Sometimes I thing
that 'genetic prediposition' to diabetes may just cause excess craving
& rest can be from takeing more & unplanned food? Which type of
craving--salt, sugar, sour...is to be understood?

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When I began taking calcium citrate and stomach
acid/pepsin supplements (for severe osteoporosis), ...

... and a broken digestive system, both related to excessive protein
consumption. What were you trying to do?? "Build muscles" by eating
excessive protein?

"High protein diets are believed to cause kidney stone formation and bone
loss, ..." PMID: 14633136

"High dietary protein intakes are known to increase urinary calcium
excretion and, if maintained, will result in sustained hypercalciuria. ...
Therefore, it is commonly concluded that the source of the excess urinary
calcium is increased bone resorption." PMID: 12936953

"Dietary risk factors for osteoporosis include low calcium intake, low or
high protein intake, low vitamin intake, smoking, and high intake of
alcohol, coffee, carbonated beverage and salt." PMID: 12731296

"Observational epidemiologic studies suggested a negative effect of a high
protein intake on bone density..." PMID: 9725101

"The unique interrelationship between excess dietary protein, calcium
metabolism, and osteoporosis with its associated ridge resorption has been
reviewed. Recommendations for the prevention and management of osteoporosis
have been discussed with concern for the calciuretic effect of a high
protein diet customarily consumed in American society." PMID: 3316605

"Osteoporosis was induced through pair feedings of a high protein, low
calcium diet." PMID: 3464755

"... plus the fact that Ca administration fails to reverse osteoporotic bone
loss, has led some investigators to conclude that Ca nutrition is an
insignificant factor in the etiology of osteoporosis. " PMID: 7250388

"Hence, increased dietary protein acutely causes a negative calcium balance
in osteoporotic patients and may contribute to bone loss in this disease."
PMID: 7451829

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Third, I think most Americans who eat huge amounts (I've known plenty
of them) because they say that nothing seems to satisfy their hunger,
are dealing with chronic inflammation, ...

Actually, they are simultaneously overeating the wrong "foods", and
starving of meaningful nutrients. If they ate our biologically-correct
diet, the "hunger" would disappear along with the excess weight.

Laurie

Laurie,

Good information. Do you know how this Ca & protien relationship works,
physiologically? Whether digestion & so better absorption of Ca &
protien which can be dependendent on Gastric acid level can have some
link with your mentionings?

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Quoted message said:

Laurie,

Good information. Do you know how this Ca & protien relationship works,
physiologically? Whether digestion & so better absorption of Ca &
protien which can be dependendent on Gastric acid level can have some
link with your mentionings?

I don't understand what you are saying, here.
If it is a response to a previous posting (your mentionings?), it is
common practice to quote the relevant parts of the original, so the writer
might understand what you are referring to, as I am doing here.

Laurie