Are the Kool stop Gray and/or White pads the same composition as the Orange ones
No
/ or do the orange stop that much better (and
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maybe wear better too) ?
Yes.
I've heard that the orange were orange due
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to the iron content... leading me to believe that color matters.
As a side question... anyone know if the old weinmann "red" pads were red for the same reason ?
No.
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They always stopped and wore better than the black but I thought it was the "four block" design that did that - not the composition. Now I wonder though.
I think it may have had more to do with the freshness of the rubber. It dries out over time.
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Thanks Sheldon. Is it my imagination or are the current kool stops a much brighter orange than the old Scott-Mathauser shoes?
I don't think there's any difference, the Scotts you mostly see are older and dirtier.
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Are the kool stop continental's still being manufactured or are they at "NOS" status now too ?
As far as I know they're still in production. At least we don't have any trouble getting them.
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before i head over to NAPA for a can of belt dressing and a pack of razor blades let me ask:
will the modern longer brake pads such as sold thru the harris website, longer than stock or oem circa l987 ten speed pads, cause dysfunction when mounted on the standard dia-compe 10 speed centerpull brake units?
or recommend a max length for 10 speed centerpulls? does the max length vary with the compound?
i had to ask before coughing up $25. the photos are just beautiful.
before i head over to NAPA for a can of belt dressing and a pack of razor blades let me ask:
will the modern longer brake pads such as sold thru the harris website, longer than stock or oem circa l987 ten speed pads, cause dysfunction when mounted on the standard dia-compe 10 speed centerpull brake units?
- - No. I have KoolStop MTB pads on my Mafac Racers and they work great.
will the modern longer brake pads such as sold thru the harris website, longer than stock or oem circa l987 ten speed pads, cause dysfunction when mounted on the standard dia-compe 10 speed centerpull brake units?
Depending on fork/rim clearance, you may need to use a "thinline" model in the front. But why would you want to use anything but "Continentals" on a dia-compe brake?
will the modern longer brake pads such as sold thru the harris website, longer than stock or oem circa l987 ten speed pads, cause dysfunction when mounted on the standard dia-compe 10 speed centerpull brake units?
I'm afraid those will cause your brakes to work better. Worse yet, if you install teflon-lined housing and stainless machined cables, you might be afflicted with "dual pivotus superioris", a nasty problem that can cause spontaneous flight over the handlebars ... :-) :-)
Thanks Sheldon. Is it my imagination or are the current kool stops a much brighter orange than the old Scott-Mathauser shoes?
I don't think there's any difference, the Scotts you mostly see are older and dirtier.
Really? I have some old (but new) Scott-Mathauser pads and they do seem to be a darker color than the new ones. They are still in their original bag.
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will the modern longer brake pads such as sold thru the harris website, longer than stock or oem circa l987 ten speed pads, cause dysfunction when mounted on the standard dia-compe 10 speed centerpull brake units?
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I'm afraid those will cause your brakes to work better. Worse yet, if you install teflon-lined housing and stainless machined cables, you might be afflicted with "dual pivotus superioris", a nasty problem that can cause spontaneous flight over the handlebars ... :-) :-)
Longer or shorter pads have no effect on brake performance.
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Continentals? What is a Continental-roll and butter? Mafac Racers? Ditto! stainless machined cables?
The idea I picked up was: a gross increase in the center pull pad's effectiveness in converting motion to friction/heat would cause the center pull mechanism to malfunction-the mechanism would overload and pull downward with the rim rotation, misalign and uh blow out the sidewall or tangle itself in the whatis…
This is not probable when increasing pad surface area on a center pull brake mechanism??
weel, i asked sheldon brown to cover that-how much brake pad area will a centerpull take if a... and prior i asked expert one and thru 7 and each time gotta mumblemumble. there's a liabilty problem here for getting larger than original pads tangled in the whatis? gee i asked eureka- mumblemumble.