Re: Killer Squirrel attack

In article <[email hidden]>,

Werehatrack said:

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:45:10 -0700, Michael Press <[email hidden]>

may have said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Me said:

Werehatrack wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT), [email hidden] may
> have said:
>
>> On Jun 18, 7:54 pm, Mike A Schwab <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo
>> Dear Mike,
>>
>> Just cross-posting your link to the crash pictures to RBT, where the
>> detailed photos of the damage may be appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
> When will people learn that if you're going to ride squirrel dicer
> wheels, you need to sharpen the spokes properly?
>

Or, just get squirrel inhibitor(tm) wheels! With their closely-spaced
spokes, there isn't enough space for squirrels to get lodged! Low
spoke-count wheels such as these Mavic Krysiums seem designed to catch
squirrels and fling them up against the fork. Hmmm...wonder when some
sleazy lawyer will figure out that his new niche lies in suing
manufacturers of squirrel-catcher wheels when these crashes happen?

Squirrels are quick. Remember that the spokes going to the
contact patch are moving very slowly. A squirrel can see that.

Squirrels around here are too fat to get past the spokes of a 36-spoke
wheel; I've had a few dash out towards me, but they've mostly turned
aside when they got a look at my old-school 36-spoke wheels. One
bounced off the spokes, hit my leg and did some aerobatics before
running off in a different direction.

Agree. Never thought otherwise. You make my point that
they recognize a no-go zone.

--
Michael Press

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Quoted message said:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT), [email hidden] may

have said:

Mike A Schwab said:

http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Dear Mike,

Just cross-posting your link to the crash pictures to RBT, where the
detailed photos of the damage may be appreciated.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

When will people learn that if you're going to ride squirrel dicer
wheels, you need to sharpen the spokes properly?

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It that why bladed spokes were created?

BobT

On Jun 21, 8:58 am, "BobT" <[email hidden]>

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"Werehatrack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT), [email hidden] may
have said:

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On Jun 18, 7:54 pm, Mike A Schwab <[email hidden]> wrote:
>http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dear Mike,

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Just cross-posting your link to the crash pictures to RBT, where the
detailed photos of the damage may be appreciated.

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Cheers,

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Carl Fogel

Quoted message said:

When will people learn that if you're going to ride squirrel dicer
wheels, you need to sharpen the spokes properly?

Quoted message said:

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

It that why bladed spokes were created?

BobT

So ,That's why the hubless wheel was invented. for free flow of
squirrel traffic.

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Quoted message said:

> On Jun 18, 7:54 pm, Mike A Schwab <[email hidden]> wrote:

http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Werehatrack said:

> Just cross-posting your link to the crash pictures to RBT, where the
> detailed photos of the damage may be appreciated.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Carl Fogel

Quoted message said:

When will people learn that if you're going to ride squirrel dicer
wheels, you need to sharpen the spokes properly?

Quoted message said:

"Me" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Or, just get squirrel inhibitor(tm) wheels! With their closely-spaced
spokes, there isn't enough space for squirrels to get lodged! Low
spoke-count wheels such as these Mavic Krysiums seem designed to catch
squirrels and fling them up against the fork. Hmmm...wonder when some
sleazy lawyer will figure out that his new niche lies in suing
manufacturers of squirrel-catcher wheels when these crashes happen?

* * Chas said:

It's all related to the carbon fiber composite fork and low spoke count
wheel fad.
A properly laced 48 spoke wheel with a strong steel fork would just
decapitate the little suckers and the rider could continue on his way with
nary a sensation that anything happened.

I'd like to see that - just not on my own bike!
In my experience you can't easily get a small animal wedged in a 36h
wheel. I haven't pursued this rigorously but at least two dogs (thirty
years apart) scuffed against a wheel without engaging my bike.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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When I first starting riding off-road with a group I got off ahead and a
rabbit ran out of the bushes and between front and rear wheels somehow
missing the cranks. I told everyone and they laughed at me and told me it
was my imagination.

Two weeks later the whole group was riding together on road bikes near that
trail and I was slightly ahead when a rabbit ran out of the bushes, came
across the road and ran under my cranks again. This time EVERYONE saw it and
they stopped telling me I had imagined the previous encounter.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:32:41 -0500, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact? <>

Note that the fork breaking is somewhat akin to the wheels and front
suspension falling off as a "crush zone" in an auto accident. I've
never seen that as an engineered solution :-)

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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:32:41 -0500, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit
to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that
you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact? <>

Note that the fork breaking is somewhat akin to the wheels and front
suspension falling off as a "crush zone" in an auto accident. I've
never seen that as an engineered solution :-)

And I'm still recovering from the bones broken in my face from that front
fork failing instead of cutting my foot off. If it wasn't for that I
wouldn't have been too seriously injured in the capital wreck.

Dan O said:

Quoted message said:

Mike A Schwab said:

http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Since, thankfully, "... he's now ok" I can say it:  Steel is real.

Let me add that high-spoke-count wheels are also real.

Chalo

Brian Huntley said:

Carl Sundquist said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact?

Perhaps something made of sacrificial foam, wrapped around one's
head...

That's just for shipping. You can keep it in case you need to send
your head back to the manufacturer for service, but you should not use
it when the head is in operation. It can cause overheating.

"Chalo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dan O said:

Quoted message said:

Mike A Schwab wrote:
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Since, thankfully, "... he's now ok" I can say it: Steel is real.

Let me add that high-spoke-count wheels are also real.

Meaning more than 12 spokes by the way.

Chalo said:

Dan O said:

Quoted message said:

Mike A Schwab wrote:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/dbiked/BrotherSBikeCrash?authkey=iOs1rM3MJzo

Since, thankfully, "... he's now ok" I can say it: Steel is real.

Let me add that high-spoke-count wheels are also real.

Chalo

WORD!

Cal

Chalo said:

Brian Huntley said:

Carl Sundquist wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact?

Quoted message said:

Perhaps something made of sacrificial foam, wrapped around one's
head...

That's just for shipping. You can keep it in case you need to send
your head back to the manufacturer for service, but you should not use
it when the head is in operation. It can cause overheating.

My mother probably wouldhave objected to that idea.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Brian Huntley said:

Carl Sundquist said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact?

Perhaps something made of sacrificial foam, wrapped around one's
head...

.... mmmm ... Guinness ... next best thing to Greene King Harvest
Brown Ale. Anaesthetic sacrificial (oblationary) foam.

http://montypyhttp://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Series_3/48.htm

-- Surgeon: Ooh! We forgot the anesthetic!

-- Operating Gumbys: The anesthetic! The anesthetic!

(At that moment a Gumby anesthetist comes crashing through
the wall with two gas cylinders.)

-- Gumby Anesthetist: I've come to anesthetize you!!

(He raises a gas cylinder and strikes Gumby hard over
the head with it. Bong. Blackness.

Anyways, my heart goes out to Mrs Squirrel and all the li'l
squirrelets. Maybe Mark Knopfler and the Boomtown whatevers
could pitch a benefit concert for them.

cheers, & my brain hurts,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Chalo said:

Brian Huntley said:

Carl Sundquist said:

That said, I was simply trying to ascertain if there would be any benefit to
breakaway parts, somewhat akin to designed-in crumple zones on cars. Could
injury generally be lessened if a breakaway part was engineered so that you
could have more of a sliding impact rather than a direct impact?

Perhaps something made of sacrificial foam, wrapped around one's
head...

That's just for shipping. You can keep it in case you need to send
your head back to the manufacturer for service, but you should not use
it when the head is in operation. It can cause overheating.

<http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/text/head.html>

--
Michael Press