Re: keeping feet warm, how?

Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Steve W

() said:

I've got this problem sorted on my DF but still can't get it right on the
'bent.
All the overshoes that I have seen, including the ones I use on the DF are
open under the sole so therefore do not do much good on the ,bent!!
Any recommendations, preferably for products that are available in the UK.

More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection 200. I
rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to sweat buckets and
make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them after failed experiments
with overshoes Even Worse.

The other option suggested was to buy a pair of shoes a size or two
larger than normal and use one or more pairs of thick woolly socks.
Things then degenerated into a discussion of whether electric toe-
warmers could be wired up to a Schmidt dynamo...

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RIde an safety bike and overshoes when its cold. (Sorry couldn't resist
it)

In article <[email hidden]>,

MSeries () said:

RIde an safety bike and overshoes when its cold. (Sorry couldn't resist
it)

(FX: MSeries being smitten a mighty blow with a shovel)

That would seriously damage my chances of:

a. RRTY, and
b. ever walking again...

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MSeries said:

RIde an safety bike and overshoes when its cold. (Sorry couldn't resist
it)

ITYM an UN-safety bike, at least compared with a recumbent.

Dave Larrington said:

The other option suggested was to buy a pair of shoes a size or two
larger than normal and use one or more pairs of thick woolly socks.
Things then degenerated into a discussion of whether electric toe-
warmers could be wired up to a Schmidt dynamo...

Various electric and chemical foot warming thingies:

<http://www.thunderboltsocks.com/heatedsocks_active.htm>

<http://abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1118303.htm>

<http://www.schoolunif.com/elbatsoc.html>

<http://www.twomorrowssupply.com/heated_socks.html>

<http://www.soldiercity.com/product-exec/product_id/9866>

<http://shop.store.yahoo.com/snowshack/ho35poplfowa1.html>

<http://www.heatfactory.com/What_is_a_Heated_Footbed_/what_is_a_heated_footbed_.html>

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Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Steve W

() said:

I've got this problem sorted on my DF but still can't get it right on the
'bent.
All the overshoes that I have seen, including the ones I use on the DF are
open under the sole so therefore do not do much good on the ,bent!!
Any recommendations, preferably for products that are available in the UK.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

The other option suggested was to buy a pair of shoes a size or two
larger than normal and use one or more pairs of thick woolly socks.
Things then degenerated into a discussion of whether electric toe-
warmers could be wired up to a Schmidt dynamo...

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Funny... You don't /look/ like Martha and the Vandellas!

Hi All,

As long as it's dry (<sarcasm> ho ho... </sarcasm>😉, you can get a
large pair of socks and put them on over your shoes. Just cut away
enough of the sole to let the cleats out/pedals in. Tight knit sports
socks work well, and you can get 'em in black to make them stand out
less.
I do this on my upwrong on cold clear mornings - works well, and is
cheap.

You could also check that if there are any unsued cleat mounting holes
in the sole of your shoes (eg 3-hole "Look"-style cleat mounting holes
left open, while using the 2 SPD spaced holes). Depending on the
design of the sole of your shoe, these can allow cold air or water to
come in. This happenend to me on an old pair of Carnac touring shoes.
Just a bad design I guess, but a bit of kids' plastcine (sp?) blanked
off the unused holes, and could be easily removed if necessary.

If it's not dry, and you can't get overshoes that suit, I think you may
need to look towards dedicated winter shoes. Shimano do a couple of
pairs, and I'm sure others do the same. There's several types on
www.wiggle.co.uk at the moment, including some on sale.

hth,

bookieb

dkahn400 said:

Dave Larrington wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The other option suggested was to buy a pair of shoes a size or two
larger than normal and use one or more pairs of thick woolly socks.
Things then degenerated into a discussion of whether electric toe-
warmers could be wired up to a Schmidt dynamo...

Quoted message said:

Various electric and chemical foot warming thingies:

Quoted message said:

<http://www.thunderboltsocks.com/heatedsocks_active.htm>

Quoted message said:

<http://abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1118303.htm>

Quoted message said:

<http://www.schoolunif.com/elbatsoc.html>

Quoted message said:

<http://www.twomorrowssupply.com/heated_socks.html>

Quoted message said:

<http://www.soldiercity.com/product-exec/product_id/9866>

Quoted message said:

<http://shop.store.yahoo.com/snowshack/ho35poplfowa1.html>

Quoted message said:

<http://www.heatfactory.com/What_is_a_Heated_Footbed_/what_is_a_heated_footbed_.html>

All of which miss the essential point that the body selectively cuts
circulation to the feet when losing core temperature, so the correct
solution is to lessen the heat loss from other parts of the body,
forcing the feet to become the radiators which are cooling you, and
thus remain toasty. Same goes for the hands. But not the face and
head, so as someone else has pointed out, a hat can warm the feet much
better than more socks.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Malcolm

() said:

All of which miss the essential point that the body selectively cuts
circulation to the feet when losing core temperature, so the correct
solution is to lessen the heat loss from other parts of the body,
forcing the feet to become the radiators which are cooling you, and
thus remain toasty. Same goes for the hands. But not the face and
head, so as someone else has pointed out, a hat can warm the feet much
better than more socks.

Arbut last Saturday I had three layers above the waist and two below,
plus a splendidly warm hat and gloves. I was at all times thoroughly
toasty, except that my hands would take a couple of km to warm up again
after being plunged into cold clammy gloves which had cooled down at a
control.

And my feet - especially the right one - were like lumps of ice all day.

Bah!

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Dead pigs make perfect, if heavy, earrings.

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
<[email hidden]> said in
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection 200. I
rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to sweat buckets and
make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them after failed experiments
with overshoes Even Worse.

Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.

Guy
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In article <[email hidden]>, Just zis Guy,

you know? () said:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
<[email hidden]> said in
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection 200. I
rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to sweat buckets and
make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them after failed experiments
with overshoes Even Worse.

Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.

(Heads for Wiggle)

"No longer available"

[censored].

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The System is well pleased with this Unit's performance, which falls
within expected parameters.

in message <[email hidden]>, Dave

Larrington (') said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Just zis Guy,

you know? () said:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
<[email hidden]> said in
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection 200.
I rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to sweat
buckets and make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them after
failed experiments with overshoes Even Worse.

Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.

(Heads for Wiggle)

"No longer available"

Sidi Inverno. Wonderful. Hugely comfortable. Warm.
<URL:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//Models.aspx?ModelID=635>

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Morning had broken, and we had run out of gas for the welding torch.

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke () said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dave

Larrington (') said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Just zis Guy,

you know? () said:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
<[email hidden]> said in
<[email hidden]>:

>More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
>around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection 200.
>I rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to sweat
>buckets and make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them after
>failed experiments with overshoes Even Worse.

Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.

(Heads for Wiggle)

"No longer available"

Sidi Inverno. Wonderful. Hugely comfortable. Warm.
<URL:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//Models.aspx?ModelID=635>

(Heads for Sidisport.com. Looks at photo of sole of said shoe)

Error 415 - Unsupported media type. Not Look-compatible, by the look
thereof.

[censored] encore.

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Better hide the pork scratchings...

Dave Larrington said:

The other option suggested was to buy a pair of shoes a size or two
larger than normal and use one or more pairs of thick woolly socks.

This works for me - i.e. Look SPD shoes a loose fit perhaps 1 size
over, and thick socks or better still 2 pairs thin socks. The point is
that to keep feet warm you need good blood circulation as well as
insulation. It also eliminates cramps. pins & needles etc. Your feet
swell during exercise and close fitting shoes become too tight.
Neoprene overshoes can constrict your feet and cause problems IME.

cheers

Jacob

Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke () said:

Sidi Inverno. Wonderful. Hugely comfortable. Warm.
<URL:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//Models.aspx?ModelID=635>

(Heads for Sidisport.com. Looks at photo of sole of said shoe)

Error 415 - Unsupported media type. Not Look-compatible, by the look
thereof.

[censored] encore.

Hmm... Will these take Looks cleats? <http://tinyurl.co.uk/36yb>

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in message <[email hidden]>, Dave

Larrington (') said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke () said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dave

Larrington (') said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Just zis
Guy, you know? ([email hidden]) wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
> <[email hidden]> said in
> <[email hidden]>:
>
> >More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
> >around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection
> >200. I rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to
> >sweat buckets and make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them
> >after failed experiments with overshoes Even Worse.
>
> Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
> the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.

(Heads for Wiggle)

"No longer available"

Sidi Inverno. Wonderful. Hugely comfortable. Warm.
<URL:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//Models.aspx?ModelID=635>

(Heads for Sidisport.com. Looks at photo of sole of said shoe)

Ah! They also do a road-bike version of the same boot, but it has a
different model name... sorry, can't remember it just now, and their
website is simply appalling.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke () said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dave

Larrington (') said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke () said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dave
Larrington ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> In article <[email hidden]>, Just zis
> Guy, you know? ([email hidden]) wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:08:56 -0000, Dave Larrington
>> <[email hidden]> said in
>> <[email hidden]>:
>>
>> >More than one comedian recommended that I should tie a plastic bag
>> >around each foot during last Saturday's Marlborough Connection
>> >200. I rather suspect that this would then cause my plates to
>> >sweat buckets and make the 'orrible rash currently infesting them
>> >after failed experiments with overshoes Even Worse.
>>
>> Dunno, I've used that technique before now. But not since I bought
>> the Northwave Fahrenheit bike boots, obv.
>
> (Heads for Wiggle)
>
> "No longer available"

Sidi Inverno. Wonderful. Hugely comfortable. Warm.
<URL:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//Models.aspx?ModelID=635>

(Heads for Sidisport.com. Looks at photo of sole of said shoe)

Ah! They also do a road-bike version of the same boot, but it has a
different model name... sorry, can't remember it just now, and their
website is simply appalling.

Found it - Freeze.

Evans maintain that they have the Fahrenheit, so I may mosey over the
road and see whether they Lie.

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