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  1. Excuse me for top-posting, but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m. I
    worked with Jim at DEC in the early '70s, long before I took up
    cycling. IIRC, even then Jim had a poster of Eddy Merckx on his office
    wall. Sigh! :-(

    Rich Alderson said:
    Tom Van Vleck said:

    From his daughter Cate:

    James Dean Mills, Menlo Park resident, passed away on August
    4, 2004 at the age of 65 in a bicycling accident. Born in
    Spencer, Iowa in 1939, he played baseball and football for
    his high school team, edited the school paper, and operated
    a ham radio in Linn Grove, Iowa before completing
    engineering degrees at Iowa State University and M.I.T.,
    where he worked on the influential Multics operating system.
    He was a leading expert in the development of computer
    language compilers, and he joined Digital Equipment
    Corporation in its formative years. There he was responsible
    for much of its Large Computer Systems software development
    and, subsequently, for its European engineering
    organization. He worked at Digital for over 25 years before
    retiring from Intel (which acquired part of Digital in 1998).

    Jim had a quiet passion for life and adventure, pursuing
    many activities with dedication and accomplishment,
    including rock climbing, hiking, gardening, sailing, skiing
    and especially amateur bicycle racing. From the late 1960¹s
    through mid 1970¹s he was an active member of the M.I.T.
    Outing Club and spent many weekends climbing in New York¹s
    Shawangunk Mountains. In addition, he was an avid reader,
    keen photographer, and classical and jazz music lover. His
    interest in French cooking and wine started in the 1960¹s
    and he became an expert chef and wine connoisseur, a passion
    he enjoyed sharing with friends and family on a daily basis.

    Inspired partly by the bike handling skills and panache of
    the riders at the Fitchburg Longsjo Memorial Race, Jim took
    up serious cycling in the 1970¹s and it became an integral
    part of his life. He raced with the Fitchburg Cycling Club
    in Massachusetts for several years, and was able to return
    to racing after he retired in California, where he led many
    local group rides and raced as part of the Western Wheelers
    Bicycle Club, Almaden Cycle Touring Club and Alto Velo
    Bicycling Club. In recent years he had completed the Everest
    Challenge, and fulfilled a dream by climbing Alpe d¹Huez, Le
    Tourmalet and Mont Ventoux on a trip to France. Each year he
    took part in the Multiple Sclerosis Bike Tour, and was one
    of their top fundraisers.

    Jim was a caring and thoughtful husband and father, and was
    especially devoted to his granddaughter. He is survived by
    his wife, Dr. Carolyn Carder, his daughters Cate Mills and
    Monica Devroude of Boise, Idaho, his sister Mary Sundblad of
    Sioux Rapids, Iowa, and his granddaughter Zoe.

    He is preceded in life by his parents John Vernon and Gwen
    Mills of Linn Grove, Iowa, and his brother Jay Mills of
    Arnolds Park, Iowa.

    In lieu of flowers, the family requests that gifts in memory
    of Jim be made to the Lance Armstrong Foundation.
    Information can be found at http://www.laf.org/.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

  2. "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  3. Please see below
    "DRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?


    Anal [censored]
    Regards,
    Bill who normally bottom posts

  4. DRS said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    You could have given it a rest this time, DRS. He's basically posting an
    obituary, with a short personal introduction explaining its relevance to
    this newsgroup. Said note would actually be sort of silly at the bottom in
    this case, as first people would say, "Hey what's this obit all about?" (or
    something similar).

    Bill "exceptions to all rules" S.

  5. "DRS" <[email hidden]> today embarrassed himself and everyone
    who opposes top-posting by writing in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    I must also say that I have never before seen someone epitomize the concept
    of "[censored]" so quickly and concisely as you did in your unbelievably
    callous and cruel post.

    To the folks on alt.sys.pdp10 (as if I knew what that was) who apparently
    knew and thought highly of Jim Mills, my condolences. And please ignore this
    DRS character, who is not in the least representative of rec.bicycling.misc.

    RichC

  6. Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:04:30 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>, "S o r n i"

    Quoted message said:

    Bill "exceptions to all rules" S.

    As a life long exceptional being I was dismayed to learn that there
    are generally precedents and procedures to handle us exceptions too.

    Had the Subject: been prefixed with Fwd: to show that it was a
    forwarded message the top-posted intro shouldn't have drawn comment
    from even the most proctological preservers of protocol.

    The Subject was apparently altered to indicate that the message had
    come from another newsgroup. I believe an honest attempt was made to
    convey its status as prefaced forwarded post and that the public
    flaying was inappropriate - to be generous.
    --
    zk

  7. Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:04:30 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>, "S o r n i"

    Quoted message said:

    Bill "exceptions to all rules" S.

    As a life long exceptional being I was dismayed to learn that there
    are generally precedents and procedures to handle us exceptions too.

    Had the Subject: been prefixed with Fwd: to show that it was a
    forwarded message the top-posted intro shouldn't have drawn comment
    from even the most proctological preservers of protocol.

    The Subject was apparently altered to indicate that the message had
    come from another newsgroup. I believe an honest attempt was made to
    convey its status as prefaced forwarded post and that the public
    flaying was untimely - to be generous.
    --
    zk

  8. S o r n i said:
    DRS said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    You could have given it a rest this time, DRS. He's basically posting an
    obituary, with a short personal introduction explaining its relevance to
    this newsgroup. Said note would actually be sort of silly at the bottom in
    this case, as first people would say, "Hey what's this obit all about?" (or
    something similar).

    Bill "exceptions to all rules" S.

    Thanks Bill, that was exactly my intent. I believe this was my first
    top-posting in almost fifteen years of usenet news participation, but
    thought in this case it was appropriate. From the posting times on my
    ISP's server it appears it took all of seven minutes from the time I
    sent the article until DRS demonstrated his narrow-minded shortcomings
    in public. Pathetic!

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

  9. DRS said:

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    I disagree.

    If one has only very little to add, and it is unlikely anyone
    else will desire to follow up (except to comment on top posting)
    I would rather see it at the top. It save a lot of scrolling just
    to see one line.

    No new questions were being asked, and follow ups in the newly
    added group could easily snip the one line statement.

    In most cases I agree that top posting is bad, but not all...

    -- glen

  10. DRS said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    You know what? You're a joick, and woise - as we say in New York.

    He's not commenting on or adding to the substance of the post, he's
    introducing it as a crosspost to another group - *of course* the
    introduction should be top-posted. It's an obit for goodness sake -
    leave it out!

    Your comment was Bad & Wrong.

    Mike
    http://www.corestore.org

    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "DRS" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <ahem> You were telling a cook how to cook. Do you
    always bite the hands that feed you?

    As for Jim Mills...

    I'm sorry to hear of his death. That's another one of us.
    I don't remember him in the Mill. I'm sure he had to be
    there but I can't recall where his office was or what he
    did. I don't remember doing any typing for him.
    Did he do any coding? He must have written specs.

    /BAH

    Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

  12. "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Bill, that was exactly my intent. I believe this was my first
    top-posting in almost fifteen years of usenet news participation, but
    thought in this case it was appropriate. From the posting times on my
    ISP's server it appears it took all of seven minutes from the time I
    sent the article until DRS demonstrated his narrow-minded shortcomings
    in public. Pathetic!

    Don't you try to blame me for your fault. You did the wrong thing and you
    knew it was wrong (hence the "apology"😉 yet you did it anyway. Do the right
    thing and you won't get jumped on.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  13. "Rich Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    "DRS" <[email hidden]> today embarrassed himself and
    everyone who opposes top-posting by writing in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    I must also say that I have never before seen someone epitomize the
    concept of "[censored]" so quickly and concisely as you did in your
    unbelievably callous and cruel post.

    It was nothing of the sort. If I'd gone anywhere near the obituary material
    you might have had a case but as it is you're just jumping on a bandwagon
    because you don't have the ability to think for yourself.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  14. "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    DRS said:

    "John Everett" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me for top-posting,

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm cross-posting this to r.b.m.

    So what? Top-posting is as wrong here as it is everywhere else.

    You know what? You're a joick, and woise - as we say in New York.

    Er, no. He's the bad guy, not me. He knew it was wrong but did it anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    He's not commenting on or adding to the substance of the post, he's
    introducing it as a crosspost to another group - *of course* the
    introduction should be top-posted. It's an obit for goodness sake -
    leave it out!

    I did leave it out.

    Quoted message said:

    Your comment was Bad & Wrong.

    Nope. It was apposite and appropriate.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  15. "DRS" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "John Everett" wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Bill, that was exactly my intent. I believe this


    was my first

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    top-posting in almost fifteen years of usenet news


    participation, but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thought in this case it was appropriate. From the


    posting times on my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ISP's server it appears it took all of seven minutes


    from the time I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sent the article until DRS demonstrated his


    narrow-minded shortcomings

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in public. Pathetic!

    Don't you try to blame me for your fault. You did the


    wrong thing and you

    Quoted message said:

    knew it was wrong (hence the "apology"😉 yet you did it


    anyway. Do the right

    Quoted message said:

    thing and you won't get jumped on.

    *** Alternate response offered for consideration ***

    John,

    Whether or not my comments were 'technically correct' (to
    the extent that issues of style and preference can _ever_ be
    technically correct), I realize I may have gone a bit too
    far in this case.

    It was not my intention to offend. If I did, please accept
    my apology. We all lose when a cyclist dies cycling.

    DRS (or a self-appointed ghost writer)

  16. "neil0502" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    "DRS" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "John Everett" wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Bill, that was exactly my intent. I believe this was my first
    top-posting in almost fifteen years of usenet news participation,
    but thought in this case it was appropriate. From the posting times
    on my ISP's server it appears it took all of seven minutes from the
    time I sent the article until DRS demonstrated his narrow-minded
    shortcomings in public. Pathetic!

    Don't you try to blame me for your fault. You did the wrong thing
    and you knew it was wrong (hence the "apology"😉 yet you did it
    anyway. Do the right thing and you won't get jumped on.

    *** Alternate response offered for consideration ***

    John,

    Whether or not my comments were 'technically correct' (to
    the extent that issues of style and preference can _ever_ be
    technically correct), I realize I may have gone a bit too
    far in this case.

    It was not my intention to offend. If I did, please accept
    my apology. We all lose when a cyclist dies cycling.

    DRS (or a self-appointed ghost writer)

    You just stick to speaking for yourself. Posting an obituary is not an
    excuse for breaching sound Usenet etiquette.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  17. I did not know Jim, but as a user of the pdp10 at university, I
    certainly appreciated his work.

    Although it's mere pocket calculator stuff now, it was an amazing
    machine at the time, so much more fun than other big mainframes of the
    day. This was down to it's software, in which, it seems, Jim played a
    major role.

    I wonder if Jim had anything to do with an "unofficial" piece of
    software we received from DEC. It was a music program, my first
    exposure to computer music.

    One night some of us waited until the night shift was over, and took
    over the machine (it was a stand alone program), and loaded it via
    papertape. It worked by flashing the lights on the memory cabinet, and
    you picked up the sound via a radio.

    We'd turned out the room lighting, so all the illumination came from
    the indicator lights on the various cabinets. In this slightly surreal
    atmosphere, we started the program, and were rewarded by the sound of
    "Happiness is a warm gun". It sounded exactly like a fairground organ!

    It's sad to know that someone whose work affected you, in quite a
    major way for many years (my first job involved working with a room
    full of them) has passed away.

    ----------------

    DRS, please, take a nice long ride.

    If you can find a short pier to take it from, so much the better.

  18. "Mike VM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    DRS, please, take a nice long ride.

    If you can find a short pier to take it from, so much the better.

    Get stuffed. I've done nothing wrong, unlike the OP.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  19. DRS said:

    "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You know what? You're a joick, and woise - as we say in New York.

    Er, no. He's the bad guy, not me. He knew it was wrong but did it
    anyway.

    "Bad guy"?!? D, you're /really/ over-fixated on style versus content in
    this case. If the OP had FORWARDED the obit with a short FYI intro instead
    of using REPLY, would that be OK with you? The *only* difference is the
    little "Re:" in the Subject field.

    Next you'll be formatting a sig with "I've spent the last 8 years fighting
    top-posting. Want to help?" We're talking MV-esque pathology here! (Or,
    even worse, Bill Z!!! 🙂 )

    Bill "hate top-posting as much as (almost) anyone, but this was different
    (and I think you know it)" S.

  20. DRS said:

    "Mike VM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    DRS, please, take a nice long ride.

    If you can find a short pier to take it from, so much the better.

    Get stuffed. I've done nothing wrong, unlike the OP.

    You have done nothing wrong? No you haven't, in fact you made a few
    things very clear. One is that you see things in black and white,
    right and wrong, no exceptions. Secondly, that you take this business
    of top posting, so seriously, that you are willing to make an [censored]
    out of yourself.

    The OP, John is a respected member of this newsgroup, he even made
    note of his breach of netiquette. You on the other hand, are most
    likely the least respected member, sharing that well earned stature,
    with the likes of Red Cloud and a few others. You could have taken the
    high road, apoligized for being thoughtless and it would have been
    forgotten.

    You still have that opportunity, although now you may want to
    apoligize to anyone else you were rude to. My guess is, that a blanket
    apology, would be acceptable. Or you can tell me to "get stuffed".

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

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