Re: Induction Cooking

Nancy Young said:

"Monsur Fromage du Pollet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Nathalie Chiva wrote on 05 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

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I've been cooking on induction for 7 years, and if you have precise
questions, I'll certainly answer them.

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Why is the Sky Blue?

Light wave lengths.

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How many pickles in a peck?

Depends on pecker size.

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Are zebras white with black Stripes or Black with white Stripes?

http://www.zoo.org/educate/fact_sheets/savana/zebra.htm

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

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Are zebras white with black Stripes or Black with white Stripes?

Actually, they are just horses wearing PJs 🙂

Cathy

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I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it

cathyxyz said:

Sheldon said:

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>Are zebras white with black Stripes or Black with white Stripes?

Actually, they are just horses wearing PJs 🙂

Actually it wasn't me that asked that question, but I did provide the
correct answer.

Sheldon.

Sheldon said:

cathyxyz said:

Sheldon said:

>>Are zebras white with black Stripes or Black with white Stripes?

Actually, they are just horses wearing PJs 🙂

Actually it wasn't me that asked that question, but I did provide the
correct answer.

Sheldon.

I know you did. 😉 White with black stripes...
Cathy

--
I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it

"George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Debbie wrote:
|
| >
| > I can get an induction burner at a local distributer for about $300. I
| > guess I am basically wondering if the induction/induction wok would
provide
| > the necessary heat for proper wok cooking?
| >
| > Debbie
| >
| If the induction heater you are looking at uses a standard kitchen 120
| VAC outlet it will not be capable of providing more than ~ 2kw (or
| about 6,800 BTU)of heat.
|

OK... I am thinking that the way this is written that it wouldn't be
worthwhile getting. Is that correct? I have absolutely no understanding of
electrical terminology.

Debbie

Debbie said:

"George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| Debbie wrote:
|
| >
| > I can get an induction burner at a local distributer for about $300. I
| > guess I am basically wondering if the induction/induction wok would
provide
| > the necessary heat for proper wok cooking?
| >
| > Debbie
| >
| If the induction heater you are looking at uses a standard kitchen 120
| VAC outlet it will not be capable of providing more than ~ 2kw (or
| about 6,800 BTU)of heat.
|

OK... I am thinking that the way this is written that it wouldn't be
worthwhile getting. Is that correct? I have absolutely no understanding of
electrical terminology.

Debbie

Take a look at the power rating of the unit of interest and here is an
idea of what performance you might expect.

A induction burner that is rated say 1,800 watts (which is typically the
most power you can get from a "normal" 120 outlet) will be comparable to
the higher output burner on a gas stove.

A induction burner that is say 3,500 watts (and can only operate from a
220 outlet) will give performance similar to a lower end commercial stove.

"George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| Debbie wrote:
| > "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > news:[email hidden]...
| > | Debbie wrote:
| > |
| > | >
| > | > I can get an induction burner at a local distributer for about $300.
I
| > | > guess I am basically wondering if the induction/induction wok would
| > provide
| > | > the necessary heat for proper wok cooking?
| > | >
| > | > Debbie
| > | >
| > | If the induction heater you are looking at uses a standard kitchen 120
| > | VAC outlet it will not be capable of providing more than ~ 2kw (or
| > | about 6,800 BTU)of heat.
| > |
| >
| > OK... I am thinking that the way this is written that it wouldn't be
| > worthwhile getting. Is that correct? I have absolutely no
understanding of
| > electrical terminology.
| >
| > Debbie
| >
| >
|
| Take a look at the power rating of the unit of interest and here is an
| idea of what performance you might expect.
|
| A induction burner that is rated say 1,800 watts (which is typically the
| most power you can get from a "normal" 120 outlet) will be comparable to
| the higher output burner on a gas stove.
|
| A induction burner that is say 3,500 watts (and can only operate from a
| 220 outlet) will give performance similar to a lower end commercial stove.

Thankyou.

Debbie

George said:

Debbie said:

"George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| Debbie wrote:
|
| >
| > I can get an induction burner at a local distributer for about $300. I
| > guess I am basically wondering if the induction/induction wok would
provide
| > the necessary heat for proper wok cooking?
| >
| > Debbie
| >
| If the induction heater you are looking at uses a standard kitchen 120
| VAC outlet it will not be capable of providing more than ~ 2kw (or
| about 6,800 BTU)of heat.
|

OK... I am thinking that the way this is written that it wouldn't be
worthwhile getting. Is that correct? I have absolutely no understanding of
electrical terminology.

Debbie

Take a look at the power rating of the unit of interest and here is an
idea of what performance you might expect.

A induction burner that is rated say 1,800 watts (which is typically the
most power you can get from a "normal" 120 outlet) will be comparable to
the higher output burner on a gas stove.

A induction burner that is say 3,500 watts (and can only operate from a
220 outlet) will give performance similar to a lower end commercial stove.

Technically true but inapplicable/misleading as induction cooking is
far more *efficient*; electric element cooktops operate at 55%
efficiency, gas at 65%, and induction at 85%. Induction wok units
operate quite impressively, even the less powerful 1800 watt units give
far more substantial results than can be obtained with the large burner
of a typical gas stove... the 3600 watt units are more and more
replacing those huge commercial units used by oriental restaurants...
the 3600 watt (220V) unit for home cooking would be for most folks
overkill. If someone has an electric stove then they already have a
220V line in their kitchen so wiring in a 3600 watt unit is no real
biggie, but any induction unit is relatively expensive... the typical
wok unit runs around $1,000, more than most folks spend for a stove...
unless one is going to do an awful lot of wokkery then they really need
to reconsider priorities. And more than likely the exhaust unit will
need serious upgrading, another big expense. Bottom line; induction
wok units work well, but at what price. Personally I wouldn't have an
induction unit, not only does the exhorbitant cost turn me off, but
more importantly I have serious issues with magnetic fields relative to
health... would you choose to live directly below high tension wires...
didn't think so.

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Quoted message said:

Take a look at the power rating of the unit of interest and here is an
idea of what performance you might expect.

A induction burner that is rated say 1,800 watts (which is typically the
most power you can get from a "normal" 120 outlet) will be comparable to
the higher output burner on a gas stove.

A induction burner that is say 3,500 watts (and can only operate from a
220 outlet) will give performance similar to a lower end commercial stove.

Technically true but inapplicable/misleading as induction cooking is
far more *efficient*; electric element cooktops operate at 55%
efficiency, gas at 65%, and induction at 85%. Induction wok units

The examples I gave allow for differences in efficiency. 1,800 watts is
6,100 BTU. The higher output burner on a gas range is 12,000~13,000 BTU

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operate quite impressively, even the less powerful 1800 watt units give
far more substantial results than can be obtained with the large burner
of a typical gas stove... the 3600 watt units are more and more

I have used 1,800 watt induction units and they are very similar in
performance to the higher output burner on a gas stove.

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replacing those huge commercial units used by oriental restaurants...
the 3600 watt (220V) unit for home cooking would be for most folks
overkill. If someone has an electric stove then they already have a
220V line in their kitchen so wiring in a 3600 watt unit is no real
biggie, but any induction unit is relatively expensive... the typical

You can't combine or add additional wiring to an existing 220 stove
circuit. That doesn't make it a show stopper unless it is difficult to
run a circuit to the kitchen but other requirements such as ventilation
might.

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wok unit runs around $1,000, more than most folks spend for a stove...
unless one is going to do an awful lot of wokkery then they really need
to reconsider priorities. And more than likely the exhaust unit will
need serious upgrading, another big expense. Bottom line; induction

Agree, you really need serious ventilation capability if you are doing
wok cooking using a burner that has high heat output.

One of the best answers if a suitable outside space is available is to
get a gas burner and stand that will hold the wok. That way you can use
some serious heat like in a restaurant and get the flavors that result
from that method.

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wok units work well, but at what price. Personally I wouldn't have an
induction unit, not only does the exhorbitant cost turn me off, but
more importantly I have serious issues with magnetic fields relative to
health... would you choose to live directly below high tension wires...
didn't think so.

Sheldon

On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:18:42 -0400, George <[email hidden]>

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Debbie said:

I can get an induction burner at a local distributer for about $300. I
guess I am basically wondering if the induction/induction wok would provide
the necessary heat for proper wok cooking?

Debbie

If the induction heater you are looking at uses a standard kitchen 120
VAC outlet it will not be capable of providing more than ~ 2kw (or
about 6,800 BTU)of heat.

Right. Mine is (as are all almost electrical cooktops in Switzerland)
on a 380 VAC outlet. And that is fully sufficient for wok cooking.

Nathalie in Switzerland

George said:

Sheldon said:

Quoted message said:

Take a look at the power rating of the unit of interest and here is an
idea of what performance you might expect.

A induction burner that is rated say 1,800 watts (which is typically the
most power you can get from a "normal" 120 outlet) will be comparable to
the higher output burner on a gas stove.

A induction burner that is say 3,500 watts (and can only operate from a
220 outlet) will give performance similar to a lower end commercial stove.

Technically true but inapplicable/misleading as induction cooking is
far more *efficient*; electric element cooktops operate at 55%
efficiency, gas at 65%, and induction at 85%. Induction wok units

The examples I gave allow for differences in efficiency. 1,800 watts is
6,100 BTU. The higher output burner on a gas range is 12,000~13,000 BTU

You're too focused on BTU availability, you're ignoring efficiency...
compared to induction using gas is like operating air conditioning with
the windows open... and especially pronounced with wok cooking, then
the doors are open as well (if gas weren't so inexpensive it would be a
highy impractical cooking fuel) With a wok, even with a 30,000 BTU gas
burner better than half the available power goes towards heating the
atmosphere, in fact the more BTUs available the greater the percentage
of loss, especially with woks. With induction, regardless the
configuration of the cooking vessel, the 85% efficiency remains
constant, in fact with induction cooking no air is heated other than
secondarily from pan and the food. You must be an engineer, all
theoretical, no practical... all your cooking is fantasy in your
head... I seriously doubt you can toast marshmallows, not without
sticking them on the end of your sliderule.

Sheldon