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Re: How to make Waffles - HELP

Vox Humana · 2005-02-08T15:40:55+00:00

wrote in message news:[email hidden]... I just bought an old waffle maker at a second hand store. It heats up well and is in good shape. But making the waffles is another story. If it is an old iron, the plates will improve with use like a cast iron skillet. After giving it a good washing to remove any old waffle remnants, I would coat it liberally with some solid shortening (i.e., Crisco), and let it heat for about 45 minutes. Wipe off the excess oil, but don't wash it. If the plates are removable, I would take them off, grease them, and put them in a 350F oven for about an hour. You shouldn't wash the plates after making waffles. A film of oil must remain on the plates during storage, especially if it is an old uncoated iron. Once the iron is seasoned, you need to oil it before you use it. I keep some vegetable oil in a plain spray bottle. I spray the iron before I use it. You don't need to spray it between waffles, only before each use. If you don't have a spray bottle, then brush on a light coating. I would avoid the vegetable oil sprays like Pam because they tend to turn sticky over time and it is very difficult to clean them off once they go sticky. The waffle is done when you see the steam that escapes from between the plates diminish sharply. After a while, you will be able to judge this better. I agree that the best waffles have the egg white whipped and folded into the batter. Even when the recipe doesn't specify this, I do it anyway. Here is an example of a decent recipe, but there are many variation, some using yeast as a leavening agent. http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art7896.asp http://www.geocities.com/webcipes2/break/b111.html

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Vox Humana
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8 February 2005, 15:40 UTC #1

<some_guy@some_computer.com> wrote in message
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I just bought an old waffle maker at a second hand store. It heats up
well and is in good shape. But making the waffles is another story.
If it is an old iron, the plates will improve with use like a cast iron
skillet. After giving it a good washing to remove any old waffle remnants,
I would coat it liberally with some solid shortening (i.e., Crisco), and let
it heat for about 45 minutes. Wipe off the excess oil, but don't wash it.
If the plates are removable, I would take them off, grease them, and put
them in a 350F oven for about an hour. You shouldn't wash the plates after
making waffles. A film of oil must remain on the plates during storage,
especially if it is an old uncoated iron.
Once the iron is seasoned, you need to oil it before you use it. I keep
some vegetable oil in a plain spray bottle. I spray the iron before I use
it. You don't need to spray it between waffles, only before each use. If
you don't have a spray bottle, then brush on a light coating. I would avoid
the vegetable oil sprays like Pam because they tend to turn sticky over time
and it is very difficult to clean them off once they go sticky.
The waffle is done when you see the steam that escapes from between the
plates diminish sharply. After a while, you will be able to judge this
better.
I agree that the best waffles have the egg white whipped and folded into the
batter. Even when the recipe doesn't specify this, I do it anyway. Here is
an example of a decent recipe, but there are many variation, some using
yeast as a leavening agent.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art7896.asp
http://www.geocities.com/webcipes2/break/b111.html

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Pierre
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8 February 2005, 17:23 UTC #2

<snip>
Now you know why you found it in a second hand store.
Buy new, safe appliances, with instructions. Warranty's can come in
handy too.
Pierre

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Pierre
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8 February 2005, 17:23 UTC #3

<snip>
Now you know why you found it in a second hand store.
Buy new, safe appliances, with instructions. Warranty's can come in
handy too.
Pierre

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Vox Humana
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8 February 2005, 17:46 UTC #4

"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<snip>
Now you know why you found it in a second hand store.
Buy new, safe appliances, with instructions. Warranty's can come in
handy too.
New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older ones. In the case
of a waffle iron where there are no moving parts, this would be particularly
true. Most likely once the iron is seasoned it will be just fine. Things
show up in thrift stores for a variety of reasons. I just helped my mother
organize her basement. She had four irons, three were new in their original
boxes. She also had two perfectly good waffle irons, two automatic drip
coffee pots, and a lot of duplicate cookware that had accumulated over the
decades. While she still cooks for herself, she doesn't bother with things
like waffles. We sent lots of perfectly good, some unused, stuff to
Goodwill. I bet that most of us have a couple of small kitchen appliances
sitting on a shelf -- things we used a couple of times and then put away.
Bread makers, ice-cream makers, popcorn poppers, waffle irons, curly fry
cutters, and so one are often bought on impulse or received as gifts. Once
the novelty wears off, they are never used again.
As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39 appliance so
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks within 90
days or a year?

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Vox Humana
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8 February 2005, 17:46 UTC #5

"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<snip>
Now you know why you found it in a second hand store.
Buy new, safe appliances, with instructions. Warranty's can come in
handy too.
New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older ones. In the case
of a waffle iron where there are no moving parts, this would be particularly
true. Most likely once the iron is seasoned it will be just fine. Things
show up in thrift stores for a variety of reasons. I just helped my mother
organize her basement. She had four irons, three were new in their original
boxes. She also had two perfectly good waffle irons, two automatic drip
coffee pots, and a lot of duplicate cookware that had accumulated over the
decades. While she still cooks for herself, she doesn't bother with things
like waffles. We sent lots of perfectly good, some unused, stuff to
Goodwill. I bet that most of us have a couple of small kitchen appliances
sitting on a shelf -- things we used a couple of times and then put away.
Bread makers, ice-cream makers, popcorn poppers, waffle irons, curly fry
cutters, and so one are often bought on impulse or received as gifts. Once
the novelty wears off, they are never used again.
As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39 appliance so
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks within 90
days or a year?

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Pierre
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8 February 2005, 20:05 UTC #6

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older ones.<snip>>

As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39 appliance
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks within

90
Quoted message said:
days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't work,
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better become a
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.
Pierre

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Vox Humana
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8 February 2005, 20:24 UTC #7

"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older ones.<snip>>

As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39 appliance
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks within

90
Quoted message said:
days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't work,
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better become a
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.

OK hun. Some of us can cook without an instruction manual or know enough to
ask questions on Usenet or do a Google search. I know for a fact that if
gave the most expensive waffle iron complete with instruction manual and
receipt to my sister, she wouldn't make a decent waffle. On the other hand,
I think being a good consumer might be spending $3 on a used waffle iron and
learning to use it while keeping it out of a landfill rather than spending
fifteen or twenty times that amount on an appliance that you MIGHT use three
times a year. Buying new appliances and keeping the receipt doesn't make
you an educated consumer. We really don't know if the waffle iron is a
piece of junk or if it just needs a little seasoning. Let's face it, it
isn't rocket science. A waffle iron made today isn't materially different
than one made in 1947. If it heats and the thermostat works, then it is
fine. The OP did the right thing by recognizing the problem and asking for
advice. That's being an educated consumer in my opinion.

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Wayne Boatwright
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8 February 2005, 20:25 UTC #8

On Tue 08 Feb 2005 01:05:48p, Pierre wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Quoted message said:

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older ones.<snip>>

As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39 appliance
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks within
90 days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't work,
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better become a
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.
Pierre
My mother's waffle iron from 1938 makes better waffles than those made
today. A few years ago I found a duplicate of it in a thrift shop. Bought
it, and it performs just as well.
Seems to me that you're full of yourself.
Wayne

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Dave Smith
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8 February 2005, 20:39 UTC #9

Wayne Boatwright said:
My mother's waffle iron from 1938 makes better waffles than those made
today. A few years ago I found a duplicate of it in a thrift shop. Bought
it, and it performs just as well.
Seems to me that you're full of yourself.
A friend gave us an waffle iron because, like most people, she never used
hers. I had to mend the wiring a few times and noticed that the inside of it
was getting caked up with old oil that had solidified inside, close to the
heating element. I considered it to be a fire hazard and replaced it with a
new one. I looked high and low for one with the smaller grid but settles on a
Belgium waffle maker. It works great.

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Pierre
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9 February 2005, 00:09 UTC #10

Vox Humana said:
"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older

ones.<snip>>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39

appliance
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks

within
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
90
Quoted message said:
days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't

work,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better

become a
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.

OK hun. Some of us can cook without an instruction manual or know

enough to
Quoted message said:
ask questions on Usenet or do a Google search. I know for a fact

that if
Quoted message said:
gave the most expensive waffle iron complete with instruction manual

and
Quoted message said:
receipt to my sister, she wouldn't make a decent waffle. On the

other hand,
Quoted message said:
I think being a good consumer might be spending $3 on a used waffle

iron and
Quoted message said:
learning to use it while keeping it out of a landfill rather than

spending
Quoted message said:
fifteen or twenty times that amount on an appliance that you MIGHT

use three
Quoted message said:
times a year. Buying new appliances and keeping the receipt doesn't

make
Quoted message said:
you an educated consumer. We really don't know if the waffle iron is

a
Quoted message said:
piece of junk or if it just needs a little seasoning. Let's face it,

it
Quoted message said:
isn't rocket science. A waffle iron made today isn't materially

different
Quoted message said:
than one made in 1947. If it heats and the thermostat works, then it

is
Quoted message said:
fine. The OP did the right thing by recognizing the problem and

asking for
Quoted message said:
advice. That's being an educated consumer in my opinion.
You get what you pay for.
Pierre

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Pierre
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9 February 2005, 00:09 UTC #11

Vox Humana said:
"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older

ones.<snip>>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39

appliance
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks

within
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
90
Quoted message said:
days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't

work,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better

become a
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.

OK hun. Some of us can cook without an instruction manual or know

enough to
Quoted message said:
ask questions on Usenet or do a Google search. I know for a fact

that if
Quoted message said:
gave the most expensive waffle iron complete with instruction manual

and
Quoted message said:
receipt to my sister, she wouldn't make a decent waffle. On the

other hand,
Quoted message said:
I think being a good consumer might be spending $3 on a used waffle

iron and
Quoted message said:
learning to use it while keeping it out of a landfill rather than

spending
Quoted message said:
fifteen or twenty times that amount on an appliance that you MIGHT

use three
Quoted message said:
times a year. Buying new appliances and keeping the receipt doesn't

make
Quoted message said:
you an educated consumer. We really don't know if the waffle iron is

a
Quoted message said:
piece of junk or if it just needs a little seasoning. Let's face it,

it
Quoted message said:
isn't rocket science. A waffle iron made today isn't materially

different
Quoted message said:
than one made in 1947. If it heats and the thermostat works, then it

is
Quoted message said:
fine. The OP did the right thing by recognizing the problem and

asking for
Quoted message said:
advice. That's being an educated consumer in my opinion.
You get what you pay for.
Pierre

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Pierre
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9 February 2005, 00:09 UTC #12

Vox Humana said:
"Pierre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

Vox Humana wrote:
<snip>.
Quoted message said:

New appliances aren't necessarily any better than older

ones.<snip>>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
As for warrantees - who bothers saving the receipt for a $39

appliance
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
so
Quoted message said:
you can mail it, at your cost, to a repair center if it breaks

within
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
90
Quoted message said:
days or a year?
Fact of the matter is that he got a piece of junk that doesn't

work,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
came with no instructions, and now has no recourse. If he and you
don't save receipts on new products, I hope you either better

become a
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
more educated consumer(which you seem to be), or just get used to
throwing your money away.

OK hun. Some of us can cook without an instruction manual or know

enough to
Quoted message said:
ask questions on Usenet or do a Google search. I know for a fact

that if
Quoted message said:
gave the most expensive waffle iron complete with instruction manual

and
Quoted message said:
receipt to my sister, she wouldn't make a decent waffle. On the

other hand,
Quoted message said:
I think being a good consumer might be spending $3 on a used waffle

iron and
Quoted message said:
learning to use it while keeping it out of a landfill rather than

spending
Quoted message said:
fifteen or twenty times that amount on an appliance that you MIGHT

use three
Quoted message said:
times a year. Buying new appliances and keeping the receipt doesn't

make
Quoted message said:
you an educated consumer. We really don't know if the waffle iron is

a
Quoted message said:
piece of junk or if it just needs a little seasoning. Let's face it,

it
Quoted message said:
isn't rocket science. A waffle iron made today isn't materially

different
Quoted message said:
than one made in 1947. If it heats and the thermostat works, then it

is
Quoted message said:
fine. The OP did the right thing by recognizing the problem and

asking for
Quoted message said:
advice. That's being an educated consumer in my opinion.
You get what you pay for.
Pierre

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pennyaline
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9 February 2005, 04:52 UTC #13

Pierre said:
You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.

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pennyaline
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9 February 2005, 04:52 UTC #14

Pierre said:
You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.

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pennyaline
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9 February 2005, 04:52 UTC #15

Pierre said:
You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.

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Vox Humana
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9 February 2005, 17:06 UTC #16

"pennyaline" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Pierre said:
You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.
On the other hand, sometimes you get more than you pay for!

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Bob (this one)
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10 February 2005, 07:08 UTC #17

Vox Humana said:
"pennyaline" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Pierre said:
You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.
On the other hand, sometimes you get more than you pay for!
Sure. But then you have to pay to get rid of it.
Pastorio

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Vox Humana
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10 February 2005, 18:48 UTC #18

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Vox Humana said:
"pennyaline" <[email hidden]>

wrote
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Quoted message said:
in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Pierre wrote:
>You get what you pay for.
Only insofar as they won't give it to you if you haven't paid for it.
On the other hand, sometimes you get more than you pay for!
Sure. But then you have to pay to get rid of it.
Speaking of accumulated trash, have you seen the shows like "Clean Sweep"
that help people clear the clutter and spruce-up their homes? I am totally
amazed that people live in such squalor. I'm also irritated that they keep
saying that the mess bothers them but a🙂 it doesn't occur to them that they
could start on one room at a time and eventually clean up the place, and b)
that when it come time to sell or dispose of the stuff, they want to keep
it. I'm certain that most of them relapse almost immediately.

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Dave Smith
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10 February 2005, 19:08 UTC #19

Vox Humana said:
Speaking of accumulated trash, have you seen the shows like "Clean Sweep"
that help people clear the clutter and spruce-up their homes? I am totally
amazed that people live in such squalor. I'm also irritated that they keep
saying that the mess bothers them but a🙂 it doesn't occur to them that they
could start on one room at a time and eventually clean up the place, and b)
that when it come time to sell or dispose of the stuff, they want to keep
it. I'm certain that most of them relapse almost immediately.
It's amazing how much [censored] some people accumulate. My wife used to go to visit
an old lady and was stunned by the amount of stuff lying around, books,
magazines, old newspapers, worn out appliances, and knickknacks. She then got
to know the daughter, and when the mother died the daughter moved into her
house. That was three years ago. The daughter recently rented a storage locker
for some of the [censored], and there was so much that she had to get a second storage
unit. It would have been easier to just take the stuff to the dump.
The house is a sight to behold. I suppose the lack of lawn maintenance can be
attributed to the problem in mowing and trimming around three old cars, a boat
and trailer and two camper trailers, neither of which has moved a wheel in at
least 5 years, old lawnmowers, piles of brush, rolls of fencing, piles of scrap
lumber. It is an eyesore for the neighbours.
Last summer we were invited up to her cottage. We were told that we would
recognize the place by the old boats and cars in front. It's a shame because
it's a nice looking building from the outside, once you see past the junk BBQs,
paint cans, old tools and furniture. The inside is much like the house.
Luckily, there is a sister in law who is a little neater than the rest of the
family and she tries hard to get rid of the junk, but it is still cluttered and
stinks of old damp papers and cats.

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Vox Humana
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10 February 2005, 19:41 UTC #20

"Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Vox Humana said:
Speaking of accumulated trash, have you seen the shows like "Clean

Sweep"
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
that help people clear the clutter and spruce-up their homes? I am

totally
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
amazed that people live in such squalor. I'm also irritated that they

keep
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
saying that the mess bothers them but a🙂 it doesn't occur to them that

they
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
could start on one room at a time and eventually clean up the place, and

b)
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
that when it come time to sell or dispose of the stuff, they want to

keep
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
it. I'm certain that most of them relapse almost immediately.
It's amazing how much [censored] some people accumulate. My wife used to go to

visit
Quoted message said:
an old lady and was stunned by the amount of stuff lying around, books,
magazines, old newspapers, worn out appliances, and knickknacks. She then

got
Quoted message said:
to know the daughter, and when the mother died the daughter moved into her
house. That was three years ago. The daughter recently rented a storage

locker
Quoted message said:
for some of the [censored], and there was so much that she had to get a second

storage
Quoted message said:
unit. It would have been easier to just take the stuff to the dump.
The house is a sight to behold. I suppose the lack of lawn maintenance can

be
Quoted message said:
attributed to the problem in mowing and trimming around three old cars, a

boat
Quoted message said:
and trailer and two camper trailers, neither of which has moved a wheel in

at
Quoted message said:
least 5 years, old lawnmowers, piles of brush, rolls of fencing, piles of

scrap
Quoted message said:
lumber. It is an eyesore for the neighbours.
Last summer we were invited up to her cottage. We were told that we would
recognize the place by the old boats and cars in front. It's a shame

because
Quoted message said:
it's a nice looking building from the outside, once you see past the junk

BBQs,
Quoted message said:
paint cans, old tools and furniture. The inside is much like the house.
Luckily, there is a sister in law who is a little neater than the rest of

the
Quoted message said:
family and she tries hard to get rid of the junk, but it is still

cluttered and
Quoted message said:
stinks of old damp papers and cats.
I try to get rid of things that I haven't used for a couple of years. I
can't remember ever discarding something and later regretting it. My mother
is about as meticulous a housekeeper as you could find. Never the less, she
doesn't like to throw thing away. Her basement was full of neatly stored
stuff that she hadn't seen for years. A pipe broke recently and a lot of it
got wet and most of the stuff had to come out of storage because everything
had to be moved. I spent three days going though all of it, begging her to
part with most of it. There were Easter baskets from decades ago, vases
from every florist bouquet she ever received, old jelly jars, parts from
appliances that were long gone, stacks of magazines that someone gave her
that she never read. She kept saying that someone might be able to use it.
I pointed out that no one could use it if it was packed away in her
basement. About twenty boxes of stuff went to the dump and the rest went to
Goodwill. I'm sure that she will never miss any of it.

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