Re: How safe (crime)is jogging?

Ignoramus30876 said:

Tom Phillips said:

Ignoramus30876 said:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:38:42 -0600, I L <[email hidden]> wrote:
> How save Is it for a female to jog alone? Is city street, college
> track, or park jogging trail safer? Sometimes there is not always
> someone available to jog with me. I do feel safer early in morning and
> in sweats.
>

It, obviously, depends on the area and on your route. How can we know
exactly where you are going to run? You always can take a folding
knife in your pocket (google for Spyderco) to feel safer.

A self defense class is better.

If a woman can't defend herself and so carries a knife,
attackers will just take the knife and use it on her.

Are you saying that it is better to carry a knife after taking a self
defense class, rather than carry it without proper training? If so, I
agree.

No. I'm saying self defense is a better defensive
weapon. No attacker can take you hands and feet
and use them against you...

Quoted message said:

Any self sefense class worth its salt would say that it is better to
have a weapon than not to have it. A piece of pipe, a knife, a wrench,
etc, are all better than bare hands.

Nope.

Ignoramus30876 said:

Tom Phillips said:

Ignoramus30876 said:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:09:50 -0700, Tom Phillips <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
> Ignoramus30876 wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:38:42 -0600, I L <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> > How save Is it for a female to jog alone? Is city street, college
>> > track, or park jogging trail safer? Sometimes there is not always
>> > someone available to jog with me. I do feel safer early in morning and
>> > in sweats.
>> >
>>
>> It, obviously, depends on the area and on your route. How can we know
>> exactly where you are going to run? You always can take a folding
>> knife in your pocket (google for Spyderco) to feel safer.
>
> A self defense class is better.
>
> If a woman can't defend herself and so carries a knife,
> attackers will just take the knife and use it on her.

Are you saying that it is better to carry a knife after taking a self
defense class, rather than carry it without proper training? If so, I
agree.

No. I'm saying self defense is a better defensive
weapon. No attacker can take you hands and feet
and use them against you...

Try using your hands and feet against a knife and I will see what
happens...

Try a martial arts class. You can easily incapacitate
an attacker regardless of size or weapon. Most criminals
are dumb as snot to begin with...

Enough silliness.

Ignoramus30876 said:

Tom Phillips said:

Ignoramus30876 said:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:35:31 -0700, Tom Phillips <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>
> Ignoramus30876 wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:09:50 -0700, Tom Phillips <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Ignoramus30876 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:38:42 -0600, I L <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> > How save Is it for a female to jog alone? Is city street, college
>> >> > track, or park jogging trail safer? Sometimes there is not always
>> >> > someone available to jog with me. I do feel safer early in morning and
>> >> > in sweats.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It, obviously, depends on the area and on your route. How can we know
>> >> exactly where you are going to run? You always can take a folding
>> >> knife in your pocket (google for Spyderco) to feel safer.
>> >
>> > A self defense class is better.
>> >
>> > If a woman can't defend herself and so carries a knife,
>> > attackers will just take the knife and use it on her.
>>
>> Are you saying that it is better to carry a knife after taking a self
>> defense class, rather than carry it without proper training? If so, I
>> agree.
>
> No. I'm saying self defense is a better defensive
> weapon. No attacker can take you hands and feet
> and use them against you...

Try using your hands and feet against a knife and I will see what
happens...

Try a martial arts class. You can easily incapacitate
an attacker regardless of size or weapon. Most criminals
are dumb as snot to begin with...

Enough silliness.

A martial arts class is exactly where we played with a knife...

i

Then they should also have taught some history.
Martial arts comes from the fact that people
weren't allowed to have or keep weapons. Thus
in order to defend against attackers defensive
methods using only the hands and feet, or
sometimes ordinary non-weapon implements, was
developed and secretly practiced.

The fact is, untrained people who have weapons
for self defense usually end up having those
weapons taken away from them and used against
them. Criminals attacking joggers almost always
blindside their victim. Having a knife in one's
pocket or [censored] pack would be useless. But knowing
how to react defensively using a targeted kick or
a swift jab to a vulnerable area can temporaily
disable an attacker and allow a lady to escape.

man swing axes in figure 8 at me and say what well you do. 2 days ago.
use to this here. dogs too. no big deal.

at time I keep riding bike thru and under stand why he is this way.
and e talk is all.
I do ultra and you all no what 100 mile a week is. for years.
anyways
he has a axes.
and I have my trash ultra mountain bike with a running water on both
side of road.
now I know it was at last 6 miles or so since the last stop and do any
thing is well winter in michigan wind snow in face riding thru ice snow
and uni san snow of 5 to 12 inches.....
Oh yes I busted my chain yesterday and I was siting going up hill.

point is. I have a mountain bike.
and a ski pole for a kick stand.
a helmet
a back pack with just food in it.
big tight orange paints on and boots.

hotdogs and bread and little debbie,
in pack and 10¢ in can.already was at around 10 miles or about.
and running water.
do the math........
we talk and I never got off the bike....

evan if he thru it. well there it is...
chances are the axes was dule from hiting onroad for rain to leave his
land area...

2nd man this week come with a axes on shoulder...... stick men our so
paranoids.......2nd man talk junk by trailer some......cops looking for
him already maybe no of this.
he just well cops no......
i have truck license and make...
1st axes man in story e now story.

I figure he run 1 block when I at 2 block and look back and 1 block to
main road cement. I ride easy pace and look back for cars at bunch
times at ½ mile and see him at corner. so
he 3 blocks and me 2 blocks under a mile.
or 3/10 and me 8/10
so if I was going at say 10 or 11 m.p.h.
he would of been at 3 ½ m.p.h.
and as we all know in a 26.2 marathon when we walk it is 3½ m.p.h.
so I say he run 1 block and walk 2 block and I ride 8 blocks.

so he can do 3 blocks in well
this is a crime. I go to jail or die.

butt we talk.
and land all up for sale around here. ours is not.

he not work so my fault his boss say.
no 4 sale sign.here.
guest they want our house to work.
I would put no tress pass sign like guy next dodo did. then well we
got stick too.

see in country. if you not cut grass a year or so. people start to
put there trash and junk cars on it.
or in this case......no trespass signs they put hunt places,
shanties. and evan full blown small homes. to hunt out of... wife mad
and drink place.....right and a gun...in view of our house..I don't
think so.........and now want to developed to sell homes.
let see if they make land look like mars now..and see if stick well
stop hay from growing........ I not think hay well care.
like 150 years these farmers farm this land. and you miss a couple
years and bam. thee every warlike [censored] roaches....
I thought they had a contract for hay for 10 years.butt hay..there
combing at me with axes...........because am the one there bosses said
can't work......

and I do not need a lawyer.
and I do not need you to pay my back taxes....
and you can't sue me weather you have.
paper work.
telephone tapes.
they think or mod me for my land money.....
Oh forget these people.

there no 4 sale sign here is there.
and there none next door too.
then the stick people show and the zxes people
say........again.........

and city people think. why do they cut there grass all the time.....

because use junk car parts are hard to sell now a day..derrrrrrrr

these people said they own half our barn......
forgerie is agen the law and a person can spend time in jail for
it.....Got it.....
cowboy...Not 4 sale.........
sell it....and see what happens.dude....

this land never was sold. crime people..

cops no off these acts here.......
do the crime, you well do the time.....

A long journey always begin's with the first step.

Do the crime Do the time.

it is sur as said:
we are going to ride, hike walk run swim and any thing out there we want
to.

I am not a slave.
I am not afraid of you.
You keep it comeing and one day you well see.
That you have awaken a sleeping giant.

quit messing with me.

you have no idea.

Do the crime you well do the time.

I go out in a fricking nature storm and I don't care.
have a beer and move on......
the harder the better.
no [censored] whole nerds or old people who going to con me into what I can or
can't do......

I am free
I am u.s.a. 100% american
and I pick up 10¢ cans to live.
you ugly M F........