Re: How I maintain my weight

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

I have read your posting three times and as far as I can understand, you
didn't say anything. One thing was clear, though: you don't know how to
spell "gimmick."

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

friend George said:

satan via a sockpuppet (demon) said:

sister Ros said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Quoted message said:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a74109e3ae318c27?

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

I have read your posting three times and as far as I can understand, you
didn't say anything. One thing was clear, though: you don't know how to
spell "gimmick."

The lack of knowledge is expected in the eternally condemned demons,
who are without the help of the LORD, Who is the Source of all
knowledge.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Hehe ... they certainly do follow you around!

Must be either your type of cologne, or idolatry!

friend George said:

Hehe ... they certainly do follow you around!

Must be either your type of cologne, or idolatry!

It is the light of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, coming from
HIS brethren, who are each HIS uncovered lamp giving light to all in
the room.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the
Word was GOD. HE was with GOD in the beginning. Through HIM all things
were made; without HIM nothing was made that has been made. In HIM was
life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the
darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." (John 1:1-5)

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

MD/PhD said:

sister Ros said:

Hi, In August 2006 I weighed 144 lb, and being just 5.1 was
overweight. I decided to go on the 2PD-Omer. Even though I'd heard
it ridiculed in this newsgroup, it sounded logical to me if I did this
sensibly and NOT have two pounds of chocolate, hot chips or fried food
every day.

An Ounce Of Common Sense.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Did anyone get any idea what this joker just waffled?

brother Mu said:

satan via a sockpuppet (demon) said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Did anyone get any idea what this joker just waffled?

There is not much that can be expected from one of satan's
sockpuppets.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ infinitely
more, dear brother Mu whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Did anyone get any idea what this joker just waffled?"

Of course, as did you. Which is why you bothered to reply in the first
place.

The two pound diet is trash science in its truth claims. You may at
leasure provide scientific proposed information to the contrary of
course, at which point real scientific discussion can begin.

Quoted message said:

I have read your posting three times and as far as I can understand,

you

Quoted message said:

didn't say anything. One thing was clear, though: you don't know how

to

Quoted message said:

spell "gimmick."

"The lack of knowledge is expected in the eternally condemned demons,
who are without the help of the LORD, Who is the Source of all
knowledge."

Lacking any valid scientific support for the trash science of the two
pound diet claims you are reduced to this?

May God bless you.

Mu said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Did anyone get any idea what this joker just waffled?

Care to point out anything he posted that is incorrect, coward?

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Did anyone get any idea what this joker just waffled?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.
Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all.

Tom

Tom said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.

Weight loss from illness (ie loss of appetite) is typically a loss of
lean body mass and not visceral adipose tissue. Regaining lost lean
body mass can not be hurried and will happen in time upon regaining
health (ie after regaining appetite)

Quoted message said:

Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all.

Your recovery from your illness simply will take time. Regaining lean
body mass will follow this recovery as a consequence and will not be a
factor in your recovery from your illness.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.
Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all."

First, there is nothing about which to be sorry. Diabetics is somewhat
a special case but in general we can more weight by eating more food
then we need to maintain our current weight at a given activity level.
We measure the energy content of a food by calories.

All the food that is in excess of needs is stored as fat regardless of
if it is protein, carbs or fat. Fat is the bodies storage method. In
times past when food was not so easily to hand and could be uncertain on
a regular basis we used the stored energy in fat. In these days we lose
fat by mimicking less food times by eating less so the stored energy is
used.

When one is ill it is often usual to eat less so there would be a loss
of stored fat for that reason. Some illnesses can also contribute to
weight loss by other methods.

Protein is used for many purposes other then as an energy source, in
building and maintaining some tissues such as muscle for example. If
during the time we eat less the same amount of protein is not maintained
then the body also uses such sources as muscles to have protein for
other important tissue reasons. So total weight loss can be the
combination of both of these stored cells.

A diabetic has to control carbs in the blood as you well know. Insulin
is the substance which causes carbs as glucose to enter cells and when
there is more carbs then we need for basic energy needs the excess is
stored as fat as already discussed.

In short if your doctor wants you to gain weight just eat more quality
foods of your choice keeping in mind that an increase in carbs means an
increase in insulin in your case. If your current weight is within
normal ranges then consider not adding weight, which also means less
insulin to serve less body tissue and from not eating some carbs to stay
where you are.

I hope the short outline helps you understand more about weight loss and
gain. Please feel free to ask any question.

Tom said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a sensible person, I eat nutricious food daily, in fact, the same
foods I used to eat before starting this food regimen, just smaller
quantities. I never go hungry, although as I don't eat often after
dinner (about 6.30pm), I sometimes feel peckish on going to bed, which
a cup of organic cocoa helps me fall off to sleep easily.

Yep, eat less and lose weight. For some the accidental choice of what
foods to include in the two pounds combined with ones height and
activity levl will cause a weight loss. For others the result will be a
weight gain. It is a gimic, use standard measures of volume or set time
to eat the same foods and the same results will occur.

By accident one can find the right amount of calories for you or one can
quickly narrow it down by not relying on accident and matching calories
to height and activity level more directly and systematically.

The two pound diet is based on trash science in its truth claims.

Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.
Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all.

Tom

You want to gain, then I suggest a rich combination of fat,
carbs,calories and protein.

The key here is to find the foods that taste good to you.

Tom said:

Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.

When caloric intake exceeds caloric burn-off, you will have the tendency
to gain weight. Carbs, proteins and fats, the three "things with
calories that make up food molecularly all have calories in their
foodstuffs but in differing ratios fat = 9cal/gram, protein and carbs =
4 cals/gram (roughly for all)

http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/calories.htm

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Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all.

Tom

If you want to add weight most quickly, you would eat from the fat
groups of food in the list above since they are the most calorically
dense.

Is English your first language?

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Quoted message said:

The two pound diet is trash science in its truth claims. You may at
leasure provide scientific proposed information to the contrary of
course, at which point real scientific discussion can begin.

Mu said:

Tom said:

Please be patient with me and this question. On insulin 50 years now
and recently have lost a lot of weight due to an illness not connected
to diabetes. There is one thing that I just don't understand after all
these years and for that I apologise. What actually puts weight on
more quickly. Is it an increase in carbs or and increase in calories.

When caloric intake exceeds caloric burn-off, you will have the tendency
to gain weight. Carbs, proteins and fats, the three "things with
calories that make up food molecularly all have calories in their
foodstuffs but in differing ratios fat = 9cal/gram, protein and carbs =
4 cals/gram (roughly for all)

http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/calories.htm

Quoted message said:

Or should I take an increase in carbs that include higher calories.
Sorry guys, this old head can't get around this at all.

Quoted message said:

Tom

If you want to add weight most quickly, you would eat from the fat
groups of food in the list above since they are the most calorically
dense.

Thanks to Andrew, true@isbetter and Mu for your replies. These are
really helpful to me as I've been trying for a while now to gain
weight but it's not been possible so far.

When the illness began 2 years ago my carb intake reduced from about
300 to only 75 grams a day with a subsequent large drop in insulin.
That lasted for about 7 months.

Thankfully, through great care at my hospital the illness is under
control now and not causing any problems with the diabetes and the
hospital has slowly increased my insulin and carb intake. I'm pleased
to say that I am now eating between 190 and 220 grams a day.

I keep expecting and hoping to see my weight increase but not one
ounce has been gained. The hospital say they are not at all worried
and that it will all take time but I hate looking like a stick-insect.
That was why I wondered if I still ate 220 grams carboydrate but
higher in calories it may help. Not quite understanding the difference
didn't help, but your explantions have!

Mu, I'll be checking your link tomorrow.

Again, thank you all very much

Kind regards,

Tom