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Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding one on the station I order. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. ps
"elzinator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding one on the station I order. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for.
My goodness Mr Styles, you are either up very late or very early old chap!! ;o)
Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding one on the station I order. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. ps
My sentiments exactly.
New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can afford to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work.
My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. Particularly if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could use it very well.
And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro machine. But for the price, it looks pretty good.
I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you use it as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I have worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those weight levers would get in the way.
"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding one on the station I order. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it
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you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. ps
My sentiments exactly.
New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can afford to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work.
My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. Particularly if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could use it very well.
And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro machine. But for the price, it looks pretty good.
I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you
use
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it as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks
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have worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems
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those weight levers would get in the way.
Lee, I am having a debate here as to the optimum width for a weight bench / dumbell fly bench - we are getting some made for us - can you give me your opinion?
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Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding one on the station I order. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. ps
My sentiments exactly.
New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can afford to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work.
My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. Particularly if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could use it very well.
And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro machine. But for the price, it looks pretty good.
I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you use it as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I have worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those weight levers would get in the way.
Yeah, could be great, could be a flop. I think you're right about whether it fits the user playing a big role, too. I like the split pad design. It's not a problem for the ghr because your thighs are on the pad and not your pelvis, but having the split pad for reverse hypers should be more comfortable. Ought to be interesting to see what elzi thinks about it after she's had a chance to use it for a while. ps
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"elzinator" wrote > Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot > platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding > one on the station I order. > http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good fit for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. ps
My sentiments exactly.
New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can afford to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work.
My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. Particularly if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could use it very well.
And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro machine. But for the price, it looks pretty good.
I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you use it as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I have worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those weight levers would get in the way.
Yeah, could be great, could be a flop. I think you're right about whether it fits the user playing a big role, too. I like the split pad design. It's not a problem for the ghr because your thighs are on the pad and not your pelvis, but having the split pad for reverse hypers should be more comfortable. Ought to be interesting to see what elzi thinks about it after she's had a chance to use it for a while. ps
I used a glute ham station with a split pad like the one on the NYB one; it was great. But I understand the issues you both raise. I don't see it as much as issue for me as for someone like Lee, who is a Paul Bunyon twin. A good friend of mine is also the same (6'6" and ~260 lb). If this works for him, it'll work for nearly anyone.
Met with the barn reps today and was impressed with the quality of their buildings. I trimmed $6K off their first quote, but that also means I'll be doing more of the work myself. They were curious about including a 'gym' room. I am the first to include one in their barns.
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> "elzinator" wrote >> Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot >> platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding >> one on the station I order. >> http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html > > Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after > you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good > fit > for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. > ps > My sentiments exactly.
New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can afford to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work.
My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. Particularly if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could use it very well.
And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro machine. But for the price, it looks pretty good.
I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you use it as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I have worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those weight levers would get in the way.
Yeah, could be great, could be a flop. I think you're right about whether it fits the user playing a big role, too. I like the split pad design. It's not a problem for the ghr because your thighs are on the pad and not your pelvis, but having the split pad for reverse hypers should be more comfortable. Ought to be interesting to see what elzi thinks about it after she's had a chance to use it for a while. ps
I used a glute ham station with a split pad like the one on the NYB one; it was great.
Have you tried one for the reverse hypers yet? If so, how did you find it? ps
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"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Pat Styles" wrote > >> "elzinator" wrote >>> Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot >>> platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding >>> one on the station I order. >>> http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html >> >> Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it after >> you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good >> fit >> for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. >> ps >> > My sentiments exactly. > > New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making > cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking > professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can > afford > to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work. > > My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. > Particularly > if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy could > use it very well. > > And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro > machine. > But for the price, it looks pretty good. > > I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you use > it > as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I > have > worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in various > planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those > weight levers would get in the way.
Yeah, could be great, could be a flop. I think you're right about whether it fits the user playing a big role, too. I like the split pad design. It's not a problem for the ghr because your thighs are on the pad and not your pelvis, but having the split pad for reverse hypers should be more comfortable. Ought to be interesting to see what elzi thinks about it after she's had a chance to use it for a while. ps
I used a glute ham station with a split pad like the one on the NYB one; it was great.
Have you tried one for the reverse hypers yet? If so, how did you find it?
I haven't tried the NYB station yet. The glute-ham station in Wooster that I used for both reverse hypers and back extensions was by far the most comfortable and adjustable model I have used thus far. It also had a split pad. You can see it here: http://www.moleculegirl.com/reverse_hypers.htm
I used adjustable ankle weights for increasing resistance on the reverse hypers (2-10 lb/ankle). But I also use isometric holds when I do both BE and RH. (8-12 reps with 6-10 sec hold each rep). Two research studies demonstrated greater hypertrophy and strength in the lumbar spinal erectors with isometric holds. And for me, this has more practical carry-over (strength and endurance).
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:08:41 -0800, Pat Styles wrote: >"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> "Pat Styles" wrote >> >>> "elzinator" wrote >>>> Reverse Hyper/back extension. of course. I see they added a foot >>>> platform to their web page after I emailed them inquiring into adding >>>> one on the station I order. >>>> http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82651.html >>> >>> Wow, that's pretty cool looking. Please let me know how you like it >>> after >>> you've had a chance to get used to it. I'm curious if it will be a good >>> fit >>> for either, both, or neither of the exercises its designed for. >>> ps >>> >> My sentiments exactly. >> >> New York Barbell has a reputation for taking expensive machines and making >> cheaper knockoffs of them. Most of the time they do well. They are taking >> professional equipment and making consumer items out of them. They can >> afford >> to do this because they have a factory in china who do much of the work. >> >> My take on this machine is that it would do well for many people. >> Particularly >> if they are small to medium in size. I am not so sure that a big guy >> could >> use it very well. >> >> And obviously the design is a bit compromised over a well design pro >> machine. >> But for the price, it looks pretty good. >> >> I do have concerns for the weight leverage arms being in the way if you >> use >> it >> as a glute ham machine. A lot of the rehab work I (and a lot of folks I >> have >> worked with) do involves bending over that hip pad and stretching in >> various >> planes of motion to work and warm up the lumbar area. It seems that those >> weight levers would get in the way. > >Yeah, could be great, could be a flop. I think you're right about whether >it >fits the user playing a big role, too. I like the split pad design. It's >not >a >problem for the ghr because your thighs are on the pad and not your pelvis, >but >having the split pad for reverse hypers should be more comfortable. Ought >to >be >interesting to see what elzi thinks about it after she's had a chance to use >it >for a while. >ps
I used a glute ham station with a split pad like the one on the NYB one; it was great.
Have you tried one for the reverse hypers yet? If so, how did you find it?
I haven't tried the NYB station yet. The glute-ham station in Wooster that I used for both reverse hypers and back extensions was by far the most comfortable and adjustable model I have used thus far. It also had a split pad. You can see it here: http://www.moleculegirl.com/reverse_hypers.htm
I used adjustable ankle weights for increasing resistance on the reverse hypers (2-10 lb/ankle). But I also use isometric holds when I do both BE and RH. (8-12 reps with 6-10 sec hold each rep). Two research studies demonstrated greater hypertrophy and strength in the lumbar spinal erectors with isometric holds. And for me, this has more practical carry-over (strength and endurance).
