Re: High blood pressure

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

...............

Quoted message said:

Actually, quiting smoking is not likely to have any effect on reducing
the blood pressure.

Strange.... I thought smoking caused blood vessels to constrict which would
in turn raise blood pressure.

Can you cite a source for quitting smoking NOT having any effect on reducing
blood pressure?

Certainly:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N27835E7A

This study shows that quitting smoking has the effect of *increasing*
blood pressure probably because of the weight gain that comes from
better appetite ---> eating more.

Yet another reason for the need for the 2PD-OMER Approach :-)

You will remain in my prayers, dear Paul, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches of
His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Paul E. Lehmann said:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

..............

Quoted message said:

Actually, quiting smoking is not likely to have any effect on reducing
the blood pressure.

Strange.... I thought smoking caused blood vessels to constrict which would
in turn raise blood pressure.

Can you cite a source for quitting smoking NOT having any effect on reducing
blood pressure?

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108579972.12b44ba8ea4648481f91f0cd0138aa83@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Certainly:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N27835E7A

This study shows that quitting smoking has the effect of *increasing*
blood pressure probably because of the weight gain that comes from
better appetite ---> eating more.

One study does not proof make, you idiot. *plonk*

Proof was not required.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the amazing riches of His everlasting
kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

jwmail said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108579972.12b44ba8ea4648481f91f0cd0138aa83@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Certainly:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N27835E7A

This study shows that quitting smoking has the effect of *increasing*
blood pressure probably because of the weight gain that comes from
better appetite ---> eating more.

One study does not proof make, you idiot. *plonk*

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108593994.6fe4bbdfd45b2745167c116532600fcc@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.

LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so many people,
Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting, manic, passive-aggressive, OCD,
hyper-religious, bandwidth wasting whack job that causes so many to respond
negatively to you.

GG

"GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108593994.6fe4bbdfd45b2745167c116532600fcc@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.

LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so many people,
Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting, manic, passive-aggressive, OCD,
hyper-religious, bandwidth wasting whack job that causes so many to
respond
negatively to you.

GG

From what little I've read of his posts the past few days, I'd say you
summed him up on a day when his meds were working...

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In truth, the way that Gary is acting is without any medications
prescribed by me. It does seem that he may benefit from an anxiolytic
or two.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His
infinite kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Maverick said:

"GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108593994.6fe4bbdfd45b2745167c116532600fcc@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.

LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so many people,
Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting, manic, passive-aggressive, OCD,
hyper-religious, bandwidth wasting whack job that causes so many to
respond
negatively to you.

GG

From what little I've read of his posts the past few days, I'd say you
summed him up on a day when his meds were working...

----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

Your LOL betrays the doubt that is consuming your soul. Without God,
you really do not have an explanation for what you are experiencing here
on Usenet.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His
infinite kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108593994.6fe4bbdfd45b2745167c116532600fcc@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.

LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so many people,
Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting, manic, passive-aggressive, OCD,
hyper-religious, bandwidth wasting whack job that causes so many to respond
negatively to you.

GG

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108611255.de0a086835700e70e2d03a6624fd73d0@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Your LOL betrays the doubt that is consuming your soul. Without God,
you really do not have an explanation for what you are experiencing here
on Usenet.

LOL - or, like so many others, I could just find you laughable.

GG

In truth, written laughter is feigned laughter because it is devoid of
spontaneity. Like the painted smile on a clown, the forced attempt at
feigned laughter to hide despair serves only to reveal it.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His
infinite kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108611255.de0a086835700e70e2d03a6624fd73d0@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Your LOL betrays the doubt that is consuming your soul. Without God,
you really do not have an explanation for what you are experiencing here
on Usenet.

LOL - or, like so many others, I could just find you laughable.

GG

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108619093.3fc23da96c4112b43c90acec5dfa94a2@teranews...

Quoted message said:

In truth, written laughter is feigned laughter because it is devoid of
spontaneity. Like the painted smile on a clown, the forced attempt at
feigned laughter to hide despair serves only to reveal it.

Wow....that was really deep, Andy.

Truth stands independent of your feign.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His
infinite kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108619093.3fc23da96c4112b43c90acec5dfa94a2@teranews...

Quoted message said:

In truth, written laughter is feigned laughter because it is devoid of
spontaneity. Like the painted smile on a clown, the forced attempt at
feigned laughter to hide despair serves only to reveal it.

Wow....that was really deep, Andy.

Andrew B. Chung said:

Maverick wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote.

Quoted message said:

>>> Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.
>>>
> LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so
> many people, Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting,
> manic,passive-aggressive, OCD, hyper-religious, bandwidth
> wasting whack job that causes so many to respond negatively
> to you.
>
> GG

From what little I've read of his posts the past few days, I'd
say you summed him up on a day when his meds were working...

Quoted message said:

In truth, the way that Gary is acting is without any medications
prescribed by me. It does seem that he may benefit from an
anxiolytic or two.

IKWYABWAI - again. Poor, poor Chung...

Can't see himself. Can't imagine that he's anything but above
criticism. Still trying to say stuff to be hurtful. Not very good at it.

Bob

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108638262.7d9d796b5a75a4ece7593fed00dacf0a@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Truth stands independent of your feign.

Thankfully, it also stands independent of your delusional ramblings.

BTW - it appears that your sleep patterns have been highly irregular of
late - your post was made at 4:08 AM (your time). You should see a doctor
about this problem.

GG

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108611246.838fa8c19f7a6d75e022de3fd1e697e4@teranews...

Quoted message said:

In truth, the way that Gary is acting is without any medications
prescribed by me. It does seem that he may benefit from an anxiolytic
or two.

LOL...I'm rarely anxious, Andy. And, whenever I do feel a bit stressed, I
jump out on my bike for a 25 mile ride...best stress reliever I've found.

What do you do to relieve the rather obvious tension that seems to be
building up in you of late? (Other than post to Usenet :-) ).

GG

There is neither anxiety nor fear for those who have His peace.

You will be in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginably interesting riches
of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108611246.838fa8c19f7a6d75e022de3fd1e697e4@teranews...

Quoted message said:

In truth, the way that Gary is acting is without any medications
prescribed by me. It does seem that he may benefit from an anxiolytic
or two.

LOL...I'm rarely anxious, Andy. And, whenever I do feel a bit stressed, I
jump out on my bike for a 25 mile ride...best stress reliever I've found.

What do you do to relieve the rather obvious tension that seems to be
building up in you of late? (Other than post to Usenet :-) ).

GG

Your feigned concern noted.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108638262.7d9d796b5a75a4ece7593fed00dacf0a@teranews...

Quoted message said:

Truth stands independent of your feign.

Thankfully, it also stands independent of your delusional ramblings.

BTW - it appears that your sleep patterns have been highly irregular of
late - your post was made at 4:08 AM (your time). You should see a doctor
about this problem.

GG

Your fearful concerns for Gary duly noted.

If my observations hurt Gary it would be because he has chosen to judge
himself harshly.

Nonetheless, you will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in
Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fantastic riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Bob (this one) said:

Andrew B. Chung said:

Maverick wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote.

>>>> Sorry my being openly Christian continues to bother you.
>>>>
>> LOL. It's not your being "openly Christian" that bothers so
>> many people, Andy. It's being openly a cross-posting,
>> manic,passive-aggressive, OCD, hyper-religious, bandwidth
>> wasting whack job that causes so many to respond negatively
>> to you.
>>
>> GG

From what little I've read of his posts the past few days, I'd
say you summed him up on a day when his meds were working...

Quoted message said:

In truth, the way that Gary is acting is without any medications
prescribed by me. It does seem that he may benefit from an
anxiolytic or two.

IKWYABWAI - again. Poor, poor Chung...

Can't see himself. Can't imagine that he's anything but above
criticism. Still trying to say stuff to be hurtful. Not very good at it.

Bob

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1108663583.ca8bb9dcc868babe719a4c12ae8bd4c4@teranews...

Quoted message said:

The email address is more than just the domain name.

I write again in truth: "The email address remains the same."

That's [censored], Andy. You regularly post using different email addresses
to try to avoid the killfile filters.

This post was made using [email hidden].

But, in the last few days you've also posted as [email hidden], and
[email hidden].

GG