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  1. Quoted message said:

    Many backward children are "stupid" merely because they are deficient >in


    magnesia.

    Magnesia??? Wha-Ha-hah!!!! You are such a dolt, Spamming Dave!!
    BTW, what's your excuse for being so backward?

    Quoted message said:

    We punish them for our (own) failure to feed them properly.

    No you attempt punish kids by scaring their parents into buying contaminated
    Ginseng. Your Ginseng contains carcinogens, toxins, and poisons.

    Quoted message said:

    Certainly our physical well-being is more directly dependent upon the


    minerals we take into our systems than upon calories or upon the precise
    proportions of starch, protein, or carbohydrates we consume. It is now
    agreed that at least 16 mineral elements are indispensable for normal
    nutrition, and several more are always found in small amounts in the body,
    although their precise physiological role has not been determined (remember,
    this is 1936,

    Yeah, this drivel was written nearly 70 years ago, but Dave's notions of
    Toxemia go back to the 1800's. This blatanly false propaganda is the basis of
    Spamming Dave's MLM sales pitch.

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on earth do
    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You are a
    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

  2. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Many backward children are "stupid" merely because they are deficient >in


    magnesia.

    Magnesia??? Wha-Ha-hah!!!! You are such a dolt, Spamming Dave!!
    BTW, what's your excuse for being so backward?

    Quoted message said:

    We punish them for our (own) failure to feed them properly.

    No you attempt punish kids by scaring their parents into buying


    contaminated

    Quoted message said:

    Ginseng. Your Ginseng contains carcinogens, toxins, and poisons.

    Quoted message said:

    Certainly our physical well-being is more directly dependent upon the


    minerals we take into our systems than upon calories or upon the precise
    proportions of starch, protein, or carbohydrates we consume. It is now
    agreed that at least 16 mineral elements are indispensable for normal
    nutrition, and several more are always found in small amounts in the body,
    although their precise physiological role has not been determined


    (remember,

    Quoted message said:

    this is 1936,

    Yeah, this drivel was written nearly 70 years ago, but Dave's notions of
    Toxemia go back to the 1800's. This blatanly false propaganda is the


    basis of

    Quoted message said:

    Spamming Dave's MLM sales pitch.

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on earth


    do

    Quoted message said:

    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You


    are a

    Quoted message said:

    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    You always have such profound, insightful and intelligent things to say. LOL

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Ilsa9) said:

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on earth do
    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You are a
    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    ;-)

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  4. Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Ilsa9) said:

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on earth


    do

    Quoted message said:

    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You


    are a

    Quoted message said:

    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    ;-)

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."

    ROTFLMAO! Perhaps I should have written about Spamming Dave "you are a living,
    breathing, walking, talking, & defecating example of blashphemy". Spamming
    Dave spews feces from every orifice.

  5. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Many backward children are "stupid" merely because they are deficient


    in

    Quoted message said:

    magnesia.

    Magnesia??? Wha-Ha-hah!!!! You are such a dolt, Spamming Dave!!
    BTW, what's your excuse for being so backward?

    Quoted message said:

    We punish them for our (own) failure to feed them properly.

    No you attempt punish kids by scaring their parents into buying


    contaminated

    Quoted message said:

    Ginseng. Your Ginseng contains carcinogens, toxins, and poisons.

    Quoted message said:

    Certainly our physical well-being is more directly dependent upon the


    minerals we take into our systems than upon calories or upon the precise
    proportions of starch, protein, or carbohydrates we consume. It is now
    agreed that at least 16 mineral elements are indispensable for normal
    nutrition, and several more are always found in small amounts in the


    body,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    although their precise physiological role has not been determined


    (remember,

    Quoted message said:

    this is 1936,

    Yeah, this drivel was written nearly 70 years ago, but Dave's notions of
    Toxemia go back to the 1800's. This blatanly false propaganda is the


    basis of

    Quoted message said:

    Spamming Dave's MLM sales pitch.

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on


    earth

    Quoted message said:

    do

    Quoted message said:

    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You


    are a

    Quoted message said:

    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    You always have such profound, insightful and intelligent things to say.


    LOL

    You left out accurate.

  6. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Ilsa9) said:

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on


    earth do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You


    are a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markosito Probertosito said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Ilsa9) said:

    Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on


    earth do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate. You


    are a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  8. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markosito Probertosito said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Ilsa9) wrote:

    > Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on


    earth do

    Quoted message said:

    > you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are a

    Quoted message said:

    > walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about


    here.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I also have a Bowie knife.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markositi Probertositi said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markosito Probertosito said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > [email hidden] (Ilsa9) wrote:
    >
    > > Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW, how on
    earth do
    > > you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless reprobate.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are a
    > > walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.
    >
    > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    >
    > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about


    here.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I also have a Bowie knife.

    I'm sure you do....
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  10. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markositi Probertositi said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Markosito Probertosito" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > [email hidden] (Ilsa9) wrote:
    > >
    > > > Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW,


    how on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > earth do
    > > > you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless


    reprobate.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You

    Quoted message said:

    > are a
    > > > walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.
    > >
    > > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    > >
    > > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about


    here.

    Quoted message said:

    > > ;-)
    >
    > Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I also have a Bowie knife.

    I'm sure it represents the same thing to you as Linus' blanket did to him.

    Quoted message said:


    I'm sure you do....
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markositi Probertositi said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Markosito Probertosito" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > > "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email hidden]...
    > > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > > [email hidden] (Ilsa9) wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces (BTW,


    how on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > earth do
    > > > > you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless


    reprobate.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You
    > > are a
    > > > > walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.
    > > >
    > > > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    > > >
    > > > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about
    here.
    > > > ;-)
    > >
    > > Ummm..another David is involved?
    >
    > Indeed there is. Very good.

    I also have a Bowie knife.

    I'm sure it represents the same thing to you as Linus' blanket did to him.

    And clearly the reference he was making went right past you. I'll admit
    it's probably obscure to some people; so in this case I won't hold it
    against you.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  12. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Markositi Probertositi" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "Markosito Probertosito" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email hidden]...
    > > > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > > > [email hidden] (Ilsa9) wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Spamming Dave, you are not only a Steaming Bag of Feces


    (BTW,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    how on

    Quoted message said:

    > > > earth do
    > > > > > you stand your own stench?), but you are also a soulless


    reprobate.

    Quoted message said:

    > You
    > > > are a
    > > > > > walking, talking, defecating blasphemy.
    > > > >
    > > > > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    > > > >
    > > > > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > here.
    > > > > ;-)
    > > >
    > > > Ummm..another David is involved?
    > >
    > > Indeed there is. Very good.
    >
    > I also have a Bowie knife.

    I'm sure it represents the same thing to you as Linus' blanket did to


    him.

    Quoted message said:


    And clearly the reference he was making went right past you. I'll admit
    it's probably obscure to some people; so in this case I won't hold it
    against you.

    He is prone to making obscure references. Mine isn't.

  13. All ginseng is not the same.

    True ginseng belongs to the Araliacae family and the Panax genus. There are
    several plants that meet this requirement. For brevity's sake, we will limit
    discussion to the commonly used ones.

    American Ginseng (Panax Quinquefolius)

    Korean and Chinese ginseng (Panax Ginseng, C.A.Meyer)

    We will also consider a member of the Araliacae family, not a Panax.

    So-called Siberian ginseng is quite a different plant than the other two.
    Although it is not a true ginseng, it is sometimes referred to as such
    because some years ago, to import it into the United States it had to belong
    to a pre-existing classification. The mis-naming was intentional. Among
    orientals, it does not hold the same position of reverence as the other two.
    The Russians who have long valued ginseng had little of it native to their
    country. A search brought them to a thorny plant, more plentiful than
    ginseng which was thought to have some of the same benefits. They and now
    others, are trying to promote it as a cheap substitute.

    Some companies like to blend in true ginseng's history and study results
    into their sales pitch for Siberian Ginseng. Such companies are either
    ignorant of the truth or purposely misleading. It is a relative newcomer and
    does NOT show up in oriental medical history.

    A word of caution: BEWARE OF RED AMERICAN GINSENG. It is usually not even
    ginseng, but instead, red dock or some other vastly inferior herb. I am
    aware of only one legitimate source of Red American ginseng. Red Korean and
    Chinese ginsengs are usually just fine though. They are normal but
    high-quality roots which go through a secret steaming process which among
    other things changes their color to red.

    A first consideration is the ginseng growing method. Due to altogether too
    frequent fungal problems, commercial growers bathe their crops in strong
    chemical fungicides. Studies indicate that such roots contain less residual
    chemical than do potatoes. The question is: "How much chemical remains in
    commercial potatoes ?" With organically grown ginseng, the question doesn't
    arise.

    Ginsenosides (complex carbohydrates) are the major components of ginseng
    which provide the healthful actions. (Note: Siberian ginseng contains no
    ginsenosides. "Eleuthrosides" are apparently the active ingredients in it.
    Study results disagree on what part of the ginseng plant contains the
    highest concentrations of ginsenosides (leaves, small side roots, or the
    main tap root). One point of agreement is that the concentration shifts in
    each part of the plant as it goes through its annual growth cycle.

    The American Botanical Council is currently doing an in-depth products
    evaluation for ginsenoside content as the result of some studies showing a
    significant volume of ginseng products on the market containing little or no
    ginsenosides at all. "LITTLE OR NO GINSENOSIDE CONTENT ? HOW CAN THIS BE ?"

    Part of the answer may be in the processing. Excessive heat is sometimes a
    villian. Fraud sometimes exists. There are various herbs sometimes sold
    under the name and reputation of ginseng; BUT if your purchase isn't a
    Panax, it is NOT ginseng!

    Another part is in the growing.

    Growing Conditions Determining Ginsenoside Content Include:

    Length of Growing Time -- in years
    Soil Nutrition
    Water and Shade to a lesser extent.
    The time during annual growth when the roots are harvested.
    The specific genotype of the ginseng being grown.
    Much commerical ginseng is 3 to 4 years old. Old indeed by common garden
    standards; however, fairly young by ginseng standards. It is generally
    considered that ginseng has become medicinally potent after 6 or 7 years. As
    the age increases, the root has more time to draw on the soil nutirents and
    manufacture ginsenosides. As an interesting side note, infrequently an old
    (old starts at about 80 years old) wild ginseng root is found in rural Korea
    or Manchuria. Those roots can command prices higher than an equal weight of
    gold.

    A balanced fertile soil is a must; but still soil nutrition is a highly
    complex topic. A recent study done by Tom Li et al of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food Canada, Research Center shows evidence that levels of certain soil
    nutrients directly effect the levels of individual members of the 30 known
    ginsenosides in American Ginseng. Each of those ginsenosides have names such
    as "Rg1" and "Rb1" and appear to have their own individual benefits.
    (Oriental ginseng has a few less ginsenosides.) They are being individually
    researched to determine the specific effect of each one. Synergestic
    relationships are also being studied.

    Optimal sunlight and water within specific ranges provide the best growth
    and subsequent nutrient intake.

    I have received several recent questions concerning American ginseng's
    taste. Generally speaking, it has a memorable bitter-sweet slightly earthy
    flavor. The sweetness normally varies between growing regions. There are
    theories for the variation; but nothing firm has been established. More
    bitter or more sweet, the distinctive underlying flavor is still
    recognizably there. Flavor is by no means a litmus test for quality. If you
    dont fall in love with ginseng's taste immediately, it is likely to "grow on
    you."

    The last item we shall consider is what type of ginseng you should use. All
    three have benefits. Within each, the ginsenosides vary in number, total
    ginsenoside content, and individual concentration ratios. There is
    considerable dispute over which type has the greatest ginsenoside
    concentrations. This is not so important to the consumer who purchases a
    standardized product.

    Standardized ginseng products merit some discussion. Initially I applaud the
    idea of customers knowing exactly what they are buying in specific strength.
    In theory it makes wonderful sense. Unfortunately, there are problems with
    this which you should consider further.

    While ginseng has many different ginsenosides, current standardized ginseng
    products contain just a few major ones and in fixed ratios - good, but too
    much is left out. First, you miss out on the benefits of the other
    ginsenosides.

    One of the largest American growers and ginseng product dealers believes
    that while it is important to make sure you are getting sufficient
    ginsenosides, you should get the ginsenosides ratios available naturally in
    the root. He believes that there is a definite synergistic relationship
    which gets omitted in standardized ginseng products. He believes that
    ginseng products should be made from ALL parts of the root. It makes sense,
    and I share his view.

    Your qualified herbal health practitioner can help you choose the proper
    ginseng based on your individual circumstances.

    - RECOMMENDATIONS -

    Look for ginseng products specifically listing a minimum ginsenoside
    concentration - the higher the better.
    Consider buying whole ginseng root of a known age rather than a prepared
    product of unknown ginsenoside content.
    Buy organic ginseng where available.
    Remember that quality ginseng is not inexpensive.
    Buy from a trusted source.
    Seek the assistance of a qualified herbalist or herbal practitioner.

    http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/2404/

  14. Ginseng is often referred to as the King of herbs. It is a green
    seed-bearing plant in the Arallicae family and a member of the panax genus.
    If it isn't a panax, it is certainly NOT ginseng - just an inferior herb
    masquerading as such. Quality ginseng comes with a price tag. If you are
    offered something cheap, it probably is just that.

    The ginseng root is a fleshy root with a characteristic earthy bitter-sweet
    flavor which varies in those qualities from growing area to growing area.
    Structurally, a ginseng root is comprised of a main tap root with additional
    side roots and fine hair roots. The outer color of the root (light tan to a
    fairly dark brown) normally indicates the growing method.

    The ginsengs include:

    Panax quinquefoilous - American Ginseng
    Panax ginseng C.A. Meyer - Oriental Ginseng (Korean and Chinese)
    Panax notoginseng - Sanchi ginseng, Tenchi ginseng
    Panax japonicus - Japanese ginseng
    Panax pseudoginseng - Himalayan ginseng
    Panax trifolius - Dwarf ginseng, Groundnut
    Panax elegantior - Pearl ginseng
    Panax zingiberensis - Ginger ginseng
    Panax bipinnatifidus - Double cut-leaved ginseng
    Panax vietnamensis - Vietnamese ginseng

    The ginsengs do NOT include Devil's Bush, eleuthrococcus senticosus,
    so-called "Siberian ginseng". Any confusion in the general puiblic on this
    matter was cleared up and put to rest by the United States Farm Security and
    Rural Investment Act of 2002. This states that only roots of the Panax
    species may be legitimately termed "ginseng". Some companies continue to
    misname Devil's Bush until their currently labeled stock is depleted. The
    pretenders have, however, been officially unfrocked.

    The only two ginsengs commonly used are Panax ginseng and American ginseng
    (which is native to Ontario).

    The following list is taken from "Ginseng a Concise Handbook" Reference
    Publications, Inc., 1989 by DR. James A. Duke, PHD. For the complete
    citations please see Dr. Duke's book.

    Compounds in Ginseng

    acetic acid
    adenine
    adnosine
    ananine
    alloisoleucine
    aluminum
    alpha-aminobutyric acid
    beta aminobutyric acid
    beta-aminiosobutyric acid
    amylase
    arabinofuranose
    arabinose
    arasapogenin B
    arasaponin A
    arasaponin B
    arginine
    arsenic
    ascorbic acid
    asparagine
    aspartic acid
    benzoic acid
    bicyclogermacrene
    biotin
    boron
    m-butyric acid
    calcium
    calcium polyuronide
    campesterol
    n-caproic acid
    carbohydrate
    caryophyllene
    choline
    cinnamic acid
    citric acid
    cobalt
    colonin
    copper
    cysteic acid
    cystine
    daucosterin
    diastase
    dextrose
    echinocystic acid beta-elemene
    1,3-dimethyl acrylic acid
    9,10-epoxy-3-hydroxyheptadeca-1-en-4,6diyne
    escin
    estradiol
    estrone
    ethyl machaerinate
    beta-farnesene
    fat
    ferulic acid
    fiber
    folic acid
    formic acid
    D-fructose
    fructose
    fumaric acid
    galactose
    galacturonic acid
    germacrene-D
    germanium
    ginsenin
    ginsenoside Ro
    ginsenoside Rb1
    ginsenoside Rb2
    ginsenoside Rb
    ginsenoside Rc
    ginsenoside Rc
    ginsenoside Rd
    ginsenoside Re
    ginsenoside Rf
    ginsenoside Rg
    ginsenoside Rg1
    ginsenoside Rg2
    D-glucose
    glucuronic acid
    glucoronolactone
    glutamic acid
    glutamine
    glutamose
    glutaric acid
    glycine
    guanidine
    guanine
    heptadeca-1-en-4-,6-diyn-3,9-diol
    1,9-cis-heptadecadiene-1,6-diyn-3-ol
    1,9-cis-heptadecadiene-4,4-diyn-3-ol
    1-heptadecaene-4,6-diyn-3,8-diol
    1-heptadecaene-4,6-diyn-3,8,10-triol
    histidine
    alpha-humulene
    beta-humulene
    hydroxy-choline
    p-hydroxycinnamic acid
    3-hydroxy-5-methyl-gamma-pyrone
    hydroxyproline
    iodine
    iron
    isobutyric acid
    isoleucine
    isovaleric acid
    kaempferol

    kaempferol-3-glucogalactoside
    ketoglutaric acid
    leucine
    levulose
    linoleic acid
    linolenic acid
    lysine
    magnesium
    maleic acid
    malic acid
    malonic acid
    maltose
    manganese
    methionine
    methyl butyric acid
    molybdenum
    o-monomethylaminobenzoic acid
    alpha-neoclovene
    beta-neoclovene
    niacin
    nicotinic acid
    nitrogen
    nonacosane
    1-octacosanol
    oleanolic acid
    oleic acid
    palmitic acid
    panacen
    panaquilon
    alpha-panasinene
    beta-panasinene
    panax acid
    panaxidol
    panaxasapogenin
    panaxasapogenol
    panaxatriol
    panaxic acid
    panaxin
    panax saponin
    panaxoside A
    panaxoside B
    panaxoside C
    panaxoside D
    panaxoside E
    panaxoside F
    panaxoside G
    panaxydol
    panaxynol
    pantothenic acid
    pectin
    petroselinic acid
    petroselaidic acid
    phenyolase
    phenylalanine
    phosphorus
    potassium
    proline
    proprionic acid
    prostisol
    protopanaxadiol
    protopanaxatriol
    pyruvic acid
    raffinose
    resin
    L-rhamnose
    riboflavin
    saccharose
    saikosaponin a
    saikosaponin b
    salysilic acid
    beta-santalene
    saponin
    alpha-selinene
    beta-selinene
    gamma-selinene
    serine
    silicon
    beta-sitosterol
    beta-sitosterol glucoside
    beta-sitosterol-gycoside
    sodium
    starch
    stearic acid
    stigmasterol
    strontium
    succinic acid
    sucrose
    sulphur
    tannoin
    tartaric acid
    tenuifolic acid
    threonine
    tiglic acid
    tyrosine
    uracil
    uridine
    uronic acid
    n-valeric acid
    valine
    vanadium
    vanillic acid
    vitamin B12
    D-xylose
    zinc

    http://dreamwater.com/

  15. Quoted message said:

    According to WebMD:

    Quoted message said:

    Consumers who purchase ginseng should consider the source and the product.
    No federal agency enforces quality control over the ingredients of many
    products. Studies of 54 ginseng products found that 25% contained no ginseng
    at all, and 60% contained only trace amounts so consumers may not know
    exactly what they're buying -- whether a jar labeled "ginseng," for example,
    really has ginseng in it.

    Yup, one should consider that Spamming Dave's Ginseng is rich in pesticides and
    other toxins. It is low on value, too.

  16. --

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Compounds in Ginseng

    acetic acid
    adenine
    adnosine
    ananine
    alloisoleucine
    aluminum
    alpha-aminobutyric acid
    beta aminobutyric acid
    beta-aminiosobutyric acid
    amylase
    arabinofuranose
    arabinose
    arasapogenin B
    arasaponin A
    arasaponin B
    arginine
    arsenic
    ascorbic acid
    asparagine
    aspartic acid
    benzoic acid
    bicyclogermacrene
    biotin
    boron
    m-butyric acid
    calcium
    calcium polyuronide
    campesterol
    n-caproic acid
    carbohydrate
    caryophyllene
    choline
    cinnamic acid
    citric acid
    cobalt
    colonin
    copper
    cysteic acid
    cystine
    daucosterin
    diastase
    dextrose
    echinocystic acid beta-elemene
    1,3-dimethyl acrylic acid
    9,10-epoxy-3-hydroxyheptadeca-1-en-4,6diyne
    escin
    estradiol
    estrone
    ethyl machaerinate
    beta-farnesene
    fat
    ferulic acid
    fiber
    folic acid
    formic acid
    D-fructose
    fructose
    fumaric acid
    galactose
    galacturonic acid
    germacrene-D
    germanium
    ginsenin
    ginsenoside Ro
    ginsenoside Rb1
    ginsenoside Rb2
    ginsenoside Rb
    ginsenoside Rc
    ginsenoside Rc
    ginsenoside Rd
    ginsenoside Re
    ginsenoside Rf
    ginsenoside Rg
    ginsenoside Rg1
    ginsenoside Rg2
    D-glucose
    glucuronic acid
    glucoronolactone
    glutamic acid
    glutamine
    glutamose
    glutaric acid
    glycine
    guanidine
    guanine
    heptadeca-1-en-4-,6-diyn-3,9-diol
    1,9-cis-heptadecadiene-1,6-diyn-3-ol
    1,9-cis-heptadecadiene-4,4-diyn-3-ol
    1-heptadecaene-4,6-diyn-3,8-diol
    1-heptadecaene-4,6-diyn-3,8,10-triol
    histidine
    alpha-humulene
    beta-humulene
    hydroxy-choline
    p-hydroxycinnamic acid
    3-hydroxy-5-methyl-gamma-pyrone
    hydroxyproline
    iodine
    iron
    isobutyric acid
    isoleucine
    isovaleric acid
    kaempferol

    kaempferol-3-glucogalactoside
    ketoglutaric acid
    leucine
    levulose
    linoleic acid
    linolenic acid
    lysine
    magnesium
    maleic acid
    malic acid
    malonic acid
    maltose
    manganese
    methionine
    methyl butyric acid
    molybdenum
    o-monomethylaminobenzoic acid
    alpha-neoclovene
    beta-neoclovene
    niacin
    nicotinic acid
    nitrogen
    nonacosane
    1-octacosanol
    oleanolic acid
    oleic acid
    palmitic acid
    panacen
    panaquilon
    alpha-panasinene
    beta-panasinene
    panax acid
    panaxidol
    panaxasapogenin
    panaxasapogenol
    panaxatriol
    panaxic acid
    panaxin
    panax saponin
    panaxoside A
    panaxoside B
    panaxoside C
    panaxoside D
    panaxoside E
    panaxoside F
    panaxoside G
    panaxydol
    panaxynol
    pantothenic acid
    pectin
    petroselinic acid
    petroselaidic acid
    phenyolase
    phenylalanine
    phosphorus
    potassium
    proline
    proprionic acid
    prostisol
    protopanaxadiol
    protopanaxatriol
    pyruvic acid
    raffinose
    resin
    L-rhamnose
    riboflavin
    saccharose
    saikosaponin a
    saikosaponin b
    salysilic acid
    beta-santalene
    saponin
    alpha-selinene
    beta-selinene
    gamma-selinene
    serine
    silicon
    beta-sitosterol
    beta-sitosterol glucoside
    beta-sitosterol-gycoside
    sodium
    starch
    stearic acid
    stigmasterol
    strontium
    succinic acid
    sucrose
    sulphur
    tannoin
    tartaric acid
    tenuifolic acid
    threonine
    tiglic acid
    tyrosine
    uracil
    uridine
    uronic acid
    n-valeric acid
    valine
    vanadium
    vanillic acid
    vitamin B12
    D-xylose
    zinc

    http://dreamwater.com/

    What happened to the fibrin and little garden flowers?

    ;o) Rich

  17. Orac said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?

    Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I was attacked for quoting Sting. Robert Bronsing got into trouble for
    quoting Roger Waters. Be careful. There is a trend.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  18. Markositi Probertositi said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    >
    > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about


    here.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I also have a Bowie knife.

    And Anth has been talking about animals. Are dogs included?

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  19. Dave said:

    Ginseng is often referred to as the King of herbs.

    And horse racing is often referred to as the sport of Kings. This does
    not make horse effluent equivalent to royal jelly.

    Is drag racing the sport of queens?

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Bowditch said:
    Orac said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Is that anything like "defecating ecstasy"?
    >
    > Bonus points for anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about here.
    > ;-)

    Ummm..another David is involved?

    Indeed there is. Very good.

    I was attacked for quoting Sting. Robert Bronsing got into trouble for
    quoting Roger Waters. Be careful. There is a trend.

    They have to figure out whom I'm quoting before they can attack me. ;-)

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

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