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  1. Jim said:

    My front shifter won't stay on the large gear, it just drops back onto the
    small gear when I let go of the shift handle. Can anyone advise me on
    repairing it?

    Check to see that it is not an adjustment issue. If the limit screw on
    the derailleur is set too far in, it will keep the STI from reaching that
    last click. If that ain't it, you need a new one.

    --

    David L. Johnson

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    _`\(,_ | common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance,
    (_)/ (_) | and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my
    trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my
    business!" --Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"


  2. Quoted message said:

    Check to see that it is not an adjustment issue. If the limit screw
    on the derailleur is set too far in, it will keep the STI from
    reaching that last click. If that ain't it, you need a new one.

    Thanks for the tip. I tried that, it did not fix things. Time to tear it
    apart and see what's in there. Any advice on taking them apart? I think I
    need a special tool (like a special wrench) to get it apart.

  3. Jim said:
    Quoted message said:

    Check to see that it is not an adjustment issue. If the limit screw
    on the derailleur is set too far in, it will keep the STI from
    reaching that last click. If that ain't it, you need a new one.

    Thanks for the tip. I tried that, it did not fix things. Time to tear it
    apart and see what's in there. Any advice on taking them apart? I think I
    need a special tool (like a special wrench) to get it apart.

    I think you can get it apart, but then you cannot put things together
    again. I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that STI are
    "robot"-built, no way to do it by hand... (maybe until a certain point
    you still can do it)

    Francesco

  4. STI? You mean SOL, don't you, 'cuz STI cannot be repaired unless you
    are some kinda god, say Siva, with like seven arms and twenty fingers
    on each hand and ..., well, you get the pic.

    Now, as others will tell you, if you had Ergo....

    But that's neither here nor there as you have STI.

    Good luck -

    App

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    Quoted message said:

    STI? You mean SOL, don't you, 'cuz STI cannot be repaired unless you
    are some kinda god, say Siva, with like seven arms and twenty fingers
    on each hand and ..., well, you get the pic.


    http://www.billcotton.com/sti_shifter_repair.htm Check this page, I found a
    way to put it back together. There is a good change that the spring is week
    and I don't know where to get a replacement.

    --
    www.billcotton.com

  6. Thanks very much, Bill Cotten! I didn't think to check Shimano, the link
    to their site looks very helpful.

    I will document my experience in case my repair works, so others may
    benefit.

  7. I "fixed" mine with a pair of Ultegra Barcons.

    YMMV

  8. It is working again! I sprayed it with flux cleaner, and that did the
    trick. Thanks for the advice, everyone. See you on the road.

  9. David L. Johnson said:
    Bill Cotton said:

    http://www.billcotton.com/sti_shifter_repair.htm Check this page, I found a
    way to put it back together. There is a good change that the spring is week
    and I don't know where to get a replacement.

    Oh, come on. As much as I admire Bill (and I do; he is a legend in
    Philadelphia), his repair is a kludge, and not for everyone.

    I want to retract this statement. Bill has since set me straight. His
    method does provide a repair, if the person working on the lever is
    skilled enough.

    --

    David L. Johnson

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    _`\(,_ | certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
    (_)/ (_) | reality. -- Albert Einstein

  10. Jim said:

    It is working again! I sprayed it with flux cleaner, and that did the
    trick. Thanks for the advice, everyone. See you on the road.

    Somewhere in the world there's a dirty flux out there. (Someone give her my
    number?)

    Bill "not bragging about WHO recommended the spray flush bit" S.

  11. "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    David L. Johnson said:
    Bill Cotton said:

    http://www.billcotton.com/sti_shifter_repair.htm Check this page, I
    found a
    way to put it back together. There is a good change that the spring is
    week
    and I don't know where to get a replacement.

    Oh, come on. As much as I admire Bill (and I do; he is a legend in
    Philadelphia), his repair is a kludge, and not for everyone.

    I want to retract this statement. Bill has since set me straight. His
    method does provide a repair, if the person working on the lever is
    skilled enough.


    It means a lots to me that Dave wrote this. Dave has came through for me
    several times as I needed a math solution to my machine shop projects.
    Since time is money to most people, most people with the mechanical skills
    doesn't have the time or the resources to tackle a blind project like a STI
    shifter, since the parts blowup
    doesn't show what is under the hood, this is another reason to be wary of
    taking the shifter apart.
    Since many malfunction occurs after an accident or the bicycle falls on the
    shifter, there is a good chance that the spring is still good and the only
    skill need is to be able to disassemble and reassemble the shifter as
    reported back to me by the poster below;
    Bill,

    I had a similar problem with my STI Ultegra (i.e. the long arm would not
    return). After taking the whole thing apart I found a piece that had a
    large burr that was the cause of my problem. I just wanted to let you know
    that with a little bit of patience and a small screw driver and maybe an
    extra hand it's not too difficult of a task to completely disassemble and
    reassemble the shifter.

    Thanks for the article.

    Steve

    --
    www.billcotton.com

  12. it can be done.
    if the alternative is 'throw it away', why not first risk taking it
    apart?
    i did it.
    sti ultegra/600 8 speed.
    there are a couple times when you have to be clever in reassembly.
    you have to hold things against a spring, in exact alignment, while you

    nudge it all back together.

    wle.

  13. There's also Steve Aiken's repair too:

    STI Lever Disassembly/Reassembly (105/8 spd)

    Read all of these instructions and make sure you have all tools
    available before starting. This is for the right (rear der.)
    lever-you may not need to get into the left one. Shift to the
    smallest rear cog, so that the cable end in the lever lines up with the
    hole. Undo the shift and brake cables from their respective components
    and remove them from the lever assembly (squeeze the brake lever and
    you can see the shift cable end at the side, and brake cable end in the
    middle, looking from the front.) The 105 levers have no cover plate,
    just a 5mm allen bolt in the middle of the front. Start by loosening
    (not removing) that bolt while the lever is still on the bike.
    You'll have to remove the handlebar tape from that side and fold back
    the rubber hood; it's also a good idea to take a felt marker or
    laundry marker and outline the position of the clamp and base of the
    lever, so you can easily re-install it. Remove the whole lever
    assembly from the bike with a 5mm allen slipped under the hood on the
    side, where the groove is.

    Next, remove the levers assembly (where all the "guts" are): At
    the hinge on the bottom, you'll see the hinge shaft and a spring.
    Below the hinge, you should see a small allen screw, a 2mm, I think.
    Remove this screw put it somewhere safe. You should then be able to
    push the shaft out one side with a drift or similar tool. Be careful
    of the spring, and the two plastic spacers that surround the shaft
    holes. Note how it all goes back together (put them in a safe place).

    Remove the large 5mm bolt from the front. The housing (dark gray,
    where it says "105" etc.) pulls off the front. You may have to
    gently pry it and work it off. Careful, it contains a round spring
    and a thin plastic spacer. As you remove it all, you should see that
    the side of the spring with the end that is slightly straighter, then
    bend to a right angle, faces the housing (this is hard to describe, but
    you'll see the difference if you look carefully). Put aside, etc.
    On the back of the assembly, there's a rotating "barrel" that
    holds the brake cable end. You can pull that off to get it out of the
    way.

    The brake lever, which also serves as a housing for the guts, comes off
    next: Look at the underside, where the small lever connects, and move
    the small lever to the side. There's a small Phillips screw under
    there. Loosen it (it should have a speed nut on the inside to hold it
    in place) and the large lever/housing will come off, exposing the guts.
    There's a small metal spacer around the bolt hole on the FRONT, it
    may come out, too.

    DO NOT loosen the large nut on the back of unit where the brake cable
    barrel attaches. There should be no need for a complete disassembly;
    usually a good cleaning is all that was needed. You should be able to
    make the mechanism work. It helps to GENTLY clamp the back portion in
    a vice so that you can easily move the levers. Just push the large
    lever back on and shift in that direction, then pull it off and shift
    the small lever and you can see how it works. You may have to use
    small screwdrivers to gently lift the ratchet pawls to free things up.
    Go carefully. It has been suggested that WD-40 is a good solvent for
    cleaning this assembly. You can saturate the works well, let it sit,
    then work it and clean out any gunk that is visible. When finished,
    shift it back to the "small cog" position, so that the hole for the
    shift cable is horizontal and will line up with the cable hole on the
    front housing.

    REASSEMBLY: One of the tricks I used was to use a cyanoacrylate
    (Crazy-Glue type) glue to tack the spring ends in place. ( I used
    Super Jet glue, which thicker and sets up quickly) But first, replace
    the large lever/housing and secure with the Phillips screw. Replace
    the brake cable barrel. Position the plastic spacers in the hinge
    area. Put a drop of glue on the right-angle end of the spring and
    position the end in the hole, with the spring aligned with the shaft
    hole. Let glue set up. You have to slide the lever assembly onto the
    base assemble so that the other end of the spring is compressed against
    the base. Hold it all together and slide it on, aligning the holes
    (easier said than done). You may have to use a smooth smaller shift
    like a small screwdriver or nail to get all the holes aligned so that
    you can slide the shaft in. On the shaft you'll see a wide groove:
    this aligns with the hole for the set screw. Slide the shaft in and
    get it centered. Replace the small Allen set screw. The spring should
    hold the lever closed.

    Replace the front housing assembly: First, use a large zip-tie, rubber
    band, or whatever around the lower part of the large lever and base to
    hold the lever partly open. This frees up the space around the front
    housing, which has to be rotated into place. If necessary, replace the
    metal spacer in the middle of the front. The spring has "tabs"
    bent up at each end; they are slightly different; one is at a right
    angle and one is at a smaller angle. I positioned the right angle tab
    in the housing. It goes into the cut-out slot at the top of the
    housing. Use a drop of glue there to hold it place (not too much!).
    If you want, you can also use a very small amount of glue at 2 or 3
    places around the groove in the front of the assemble (not the housing)
    to hold the plastic spacer in place. You have to insert the other end
    of the spring in the small hole at the bottom of the assembly, then
    rotate the front clockwise to get the (square) hole in the front to
    line up with the square protuberance that surrounds the center bolt
    hole. The spring wants to come out of the hole, naturally. The
    technique I finally came up with was to insert the spring, then, before
    rotating, carefully insert the bolt and get it started, to keep the
    housing centered. Then turn the housing, keeping enough pressure on to
    the keep the spring in place. You can usually see if the spring comes
    out because there will be a gap between the housing and the assembly.
    Once aligned, tighten the bolt. If all is well, the gap will be small
    and uniform, the large lever will shift smoothly, and the small lever
    will do its job. If not, remove the bolt and start over. Once done,
    make sure the hole for the cable end is aligned with the housing hole,
    by shifting the small lever. You should be able to sight through the
    holes by squeezing the lever and looking through from the "outside"
    to the "inside," with respect to the position of the lever on the
    bike. Insert the brake cable, and get the brake cable housing properly
    aligned and seated in the body before (or while) remounting the lever
    on the handlebar. Insert the shift cable through the lever and into
    the housing. CAUTION: Make sure that all shift cable housings are
    seated, all slack is out of the cable, and the cable end is attached to
    the derailleur before working the shifter.

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