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  1. JC Der Koenig said:

    The first thing is to lose the excuses.

    Yes, it is interesting to note the number of people who immediately
    follow any admission of weight gain or existing high weight with a
    series of excuses. My canary died, my bus was late, my cat threw up a
    furball. The excuses range from sad (if genuine) to totally ridiculous.
    Normal weight people have just as much stress, drama, and trauma in
    their lives, so it can't be the reason for the weight gain.

    If their excuses were valid for their most recent gain, then they will
    allow them to excuse any subsequent weight gain. They don't see that
    excuses are self defeating, that until they say, I am fat because I
    didn't do what was necessary to avoid becoming fat, that they have no
    chance of changing their situation. When I read posts from people on the
    diet groups who admit that they have been trying to lose weight for many
    years, some claim all of their lives, I wonder why they bother to
    continue. It is not the wrong diet that is their problem, it is the
    person staring back from the mirror. They can change thier diets as many
    times as they like, but until they change that person in the mirror,
    they are going to remain fat losers.

    The fat acceptance groups are a negative thing for overweight people,
    they make not the slightest difference to the attitudes of those who are
    not fat, but give the fat people yet another place to hide from the
    reality that they have created, or at least have allowed to engulf them.

    Bill

  2. I wasn't making excuses, I fell off the wagon or should I say jumped, when I
    had nothing to do but set around and eat! I'm not blaming anyone or any
    situation, it's just a fact. I could have kept my mouth shut but instead, I
    chose to eat. :-)

    Kathy
    "palmer.william" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    The first thing is to lose the excuses.

    Yes, it is interesting to note the number of people who immediately
    follow any admission of weight gain or existing high weight with a
    series of excuses. My canary died, my bus was late, my cat threw up a
    furball. The excuses range from sad (if genuine) to totally ridiculous.
    Normal weight people have just as much stress, drama, and trauma in
    their lives, so it can't be the reason for the weight gain.

    If their excuses were valid for their most recent gain, then they will
    allow them to excuse any subsequent weight gain. They don't see that
    excuses are self defeating, that until they say, I am fat because I
    didn't do what was necessary to avoid becoming fat, that they have no
    chance of changing their situation. When I read posts from people on the
    diet groups who admit that they have been trying to lose weight for many
    years, some claim all of their lives, I wonder why they bother to
    continue. It is not the wrong diet that is their problem, it is the
    person staring back from the mirror. They can change thier diets as many
    times as they like, but until they change that person in the mirror,
    they are going to remain fat losers.

    The fat acceptance groups are a negative thing for overweight people,
    they make not the slightest difference to the attitudes of those who are
    not fat, but give the fat people yet another place to hide from the
    reality that they have created, or at least have allowed to engulf them.

    Bill

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    The first thing is to lose the excuses.

    Yes, it is interesting to note the number of people who immediately
    follow any admission of weight gain or existing high weight with a
    series of excuses. My canary died, my bus was late, my cat threw up a
    furball. The excuses range from sad (if genuine) to totally ridiculous.
    Normal weight people have just as much stress, drama, and trauma in
    their lives, so it can't be the reason for the weight gain.

    People in diet support groups are usually there for support in losing
    weight. Generally, part of group support is to "tell your story". I
    don't see listing the various factors that affect how a person eats or
    how their body handles things based on whatever condition it is in as
    excuses, just part of the overall picture. We all know how we got fat
    and how we react to various stresses in our life or how long-term
    apathy plays a part. Sharing our stories is akin to confession :-) It
    wipes the slate clean AND makes a person actually THINK about the
    contributing factors and how he/she might handle them from here on out.
    You can't change behavior unless you are AWARE of it, after all. The
    crucial point to focus on is that we are doing something about it NOW.

    --
    Saffire
    205/142/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  4. "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    The first thing is to lose the excuses.

    Yes, it is interesting to note the number of people who immediately
    follow any admission of weight gain or existing high weight with a
    series of excuses. My canary died, my bus was late, my cat threw up a
    furball. The excuses range from sad (if genuine) to totally ridiculous.
    Normal weight people have just as much stress, drama, and trauma in
    their lives, so it can't be the reason for the weight gain.

    People in diet support groups are usually there for support in losing
    weight. Generally, part of group support is to "tell your story". I
    don't see listing the various factors that affect how a person eats or
    how their body handles things based on whatever condition it is in as
    excuses, just part of the overall picture. We all know how we got fat
    and how we react to various stresses in our life or how long-term
    apathy plays a part. Sharing our stories is akin to confession :-) It
    wipes the slate clean AND makes a person actually THINK about the
    contributing factors and how he/she might handle them from here on out.
    You can't change behavior unless you are AWARE of it, after all. The
    crucial point to focus on is that we are doing something about it NOW.

    --
    Saffire
    205/142/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    See, the reason I always love Thaffy is because she is so real in everone's
    life. She always loves everyone and doesn't use anyone.

    Nobody could be more of a human being than that. I just stand in awe.

  5. "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, I'm human, all right ... I think ...

    You are. Neither of us has to apologise to each other.

    You don't deserve me and I don't deserve you. Probably some kind of Chinese
    puzzle.

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