Re: Handle vs Weight on a 36

brycer1968 said:

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http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69690

Can you upgrade the coker handle to fit on a nimbus 36 frame post vs
the seat post? I am not so tall and my seat does not have enough seat
post exposed to have this work for me. If you can do this, can you
give me a price for that mod?

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Sorry, I dopn't think that will work so well with the set-up I'm trying
to sell. The best hope for shorter riders would be a rail adaptor
mounted handlebar like this:

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The Coker handle isn't on the market yet, so it's probably not a good
idea to speculate beyond what can be seen in the picture(s), which I
can't seem to find on their web site. Not sure if it clamps to frame or
post. Also no telling when they'll ship. Could happen any time, or
there may be delays.

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I would like to hear some real good reasons from experienced unicyclist
concerning why the handle is so good even with it's weight penalty.
Does it really help in stabilizing the unicycle at higher speeds, lower
speeds. Does it help climbing, turning, descending to really make it
worth while having your unicycle gain weight and loose it's simple
look.

Thanks everyone for your comments they have been great information,
just looking for more information from the seasoned riders that swear
by having a handle.

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Are there any long distance riders that plain don't use a handle? Why?

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hectorqlucero said:

I would like to hear some real good reasons from experienced unicyclist
concerning why the handle is so good even with it's weight penalty.

Two words: crotch relief.

Every unicyclist goes about this a bit differently, but I believe the
employment of some quasi-ergonomic handle gives the most relief to
saddle pressure during a long ride.

One needs to push onto something to remove pressure from his/her
crotch. Unfortunately, the "stock" unicycle handles are designed for
pulling. Pushing on said handles isn't very comfortable and requires
awkward hand / wrist / arm positioning.

I used a stock handle for some of my distance training and found it
quite difficult to achieve sufficient comfort over a longer period of
time. Once I built a handlebar onto my frame, I knew I'd found the
solution I was looking for.

The choice is yours... added weight or pain and numbness in a very
tender area.

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In situations where I need "tight control" (bumpy sections, steep
climbs, steep desents, very high-speed), I default to the KH handle. I
use the T7 for comfort when I'm in cruising mode. I don't think it
helps turning, but then again, turning seems so intuitive anyways.

I feel that the primary benefit is comfort for long distance. I find
that by adding a bit of forward pressure on the handle, my bum slides
to the very back of the seat and very long distances become tolerable
without numbness and little chafing. I also find that the forward hand
positions are more comfortable.

I think the bottom line is, if you you don't spend hours at a time in
the saddle, you may never need a T7. I don't think it improves
unicycling skill, only comfort.

If you're a weight weenie, maybe the T7 isn't for you.

...buy since you already have one, why don't you just try it and
develop your own opinion.

hectorqlucero said:

I would like to hear some real good reasons from experienced unicyclist
concerning why the handle is so good even with it's weight penalty.
Does it really help in stabilizing the unicycle at higher speeds, lower
speeds. Does it help climbing, turning, descending to really make it
worth while having your unicycle gain weight and loose it's simple
look.

Thanks everyone for your comments they have been great information,
just looking for more information from the seasoned riders that swear
by having a handle.

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johnfoss said:

The Coker handle isn't on the market yet, so it's probably not a good
idea to speculate beyond what can be seen in the picture(s), which I
can't seem to find on their web site. Not sure if it clamps to frame or
post. Also no telling when they'll ship. Could happen any time, or
there may be delays.

I'll be getting my new coker handle in about a week, according to Jamey
at uniproshop. It does clamp directly to the seatpost, and not to the
saddle. This is a good setup since you would really need a cf base if
it was connected to the seat base, or you would have excessive flex and
run the risk of breaking your plastic seat base.

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hectorqlucero said:

I would like to hear some real good reasons from experienced unicyclist
concerning why the handle is so good even with it's weight penalty.
Does it really help in stabilizing the unicycle at higher speeds, lower
speeds. Does it help climbing, turning, descending to really make it
worth while having your unicycle gain weight and loose it's simple
look.

In a word, Yes

I track much straighter when using a handle spending less effort
keeping my ride smooth and am able to spin faster with confidence. It
helps to make smooth corners and i find that it gives you something to
torque against when climbing and a place to put your break for when
descending. The one area that I find that it is a hinderance is when
going real slow or hopping a lot.

I have a handle made out of an old bike frame and the front of a T7, I
found that the T7 was a bit flimsy when mounting and climbing hills and
eventually the front plate broke.

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brycer1968 said:

Sorry, I dopn't think that will work so well with the set-up I'm trying
to sell. The best hope for shorter riders would be a rail adaptor
mounted handlebar like this:

No no..that isn't the best setup. You can easily create a bracket out
of 1/8" steel that fits underneath the seat at attaches to the front
seat bolts. This avoids the rail adapter, and works perfect for short
riders (like myself and my 5'2" girlfriend).

*Very* stiff, and won't break your plastic seat base.

http://tinyurl.com/yp7a7j

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EDIT: I should mention *why* I think this. I think so because it allows
you to still use the KH handle. IE, see:

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