Well, I'm scheduled for cheilectomy in a couple of months. The surgeon recommends fusion since he says my cartilege is in an advanced stage but i'm apprehensive about the fusion when I need to be very active for future career goals.
Furthermore, i've been taking quality fish oil for about a month, working out pretty hard (running, stepper, weight lifting etc) and I don't really have any pain anymore! I guess it takes the inflamation down. So now i'm thinking about cancelling the surgery...but i'm not sure.
The only limitation I have right now is range of motion.
Well, I'm scheduled for cheilectomy in a couple of months.
Since when do they schedule those? Aound here, they just shove a garden hose up your [censored], turn it on, and when you can't hold it anymore that's it. Then you pay them $40.
Well, I'm scheduled for cheilectomy in a couple of months. The surgeon recommends fusion since he says my cartilege is in an advanced stage but i'm apprehensive about the fusion when I need to be very active for future career goals.
Furthermore, i've been taking quality fish oil for about a month, working out pretty hard (running, stepper, weight lifting etc) and I don't really have any pain anymore! I guess it takes the inflamation down. So now i'm thinking about cancelling the surgery...but i'm not sure.
The only limitation I have right now is range of motion.
Any advice?
I don't think advanced cartilage breakdown would prevent you from getting a joint replacement. They remove all the cartilage and both of the bony surfaces in the joint replacement surgery. Did your doc tell you joint replacement was the wrong choice for you because of the stage of your cartilage?
No, he said it was the wrong choice because he doesn't do it (or recommend it anyway) due to the fact that they are not durable/reliable and need to be replaced after an extremely short time. Apparently they are designed for more sedentary or older individuals.
No, he said it was the wrong choice because he doesn't do it (or recommend it anyway) due to the fact that they are not durable/reliable and need to be replaced after an extremely short time. Apparently they are designed for more sedentary or older individuals.
Have you had one implanted?
Nope. I found another link that agrees with your doc. You'd think if they can make an artificial knee that lasts around 20 years, they could do better with a toe, but I guess that shows what I know.
Well, I don't know what's up but I don't have any pain whatsoever. I've been taking about 5g of quality fish oil per day in addition to other sources of quality Omega 3 EFA's from fish and nuts. I eat extremely clean and strict. I'm curious if I actually have more cartilege left and a better joint than the doctor is leading me to believe (afterall surgery is his livelihood). I suppose my symptoms have been less and less until they have no disappeared since I stubbed my toe real bad last Sept. I guess the body has a remarkable sense to heal itself and the only problem are the bone spurs which don't hard but limit the range of motion which doesn't seem to bother me.
At this point i'm thinking of cancelling the surgery and going on with my life and moving forward with my career. If the pain comes back then i'll have to deal with it at that time.
This almost feels like a miracle! I highly recommend fish oil for arthritis and joints...give it a few weeks and you'll see for yourself.
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Well, I don't know what's up but I don't have any pain whatsoever. I've been taking about 5g of quality fish oil per day in addition to other sources of quality Omega 3 EFA's from fish and nuts. I eat extremely clean and strict. I'm curious if I actually have more cartilege left and a better joint than the doctor is leading me to believe (afterall surgery is his livelihood). I suppose my symptoms have been less and less until they have no disappeared since I stubbed my toe real bad last Sept. I guess the body has a remarkable sense to heal itself and the only problem are the bone spurs which don't hard but limit the range of motion which doesn't seem to bother me.
At this point i'm thinking of cancelling the surgery and going on with my life and moving forward with my career. If the pain comes back then i'll have to deal with it at that time.
This almost feels like a miracle! I highly recommend fish oil for arthritis and joints...give it a few weeks and you'll see for yourself.
If it hurts again... A cheilectomy and joint distraction with extrenal fixation is also a great option. All damaged cartilage / raw bone can also be made to bleed with a K-wire, which will cause a pseudo-joint to form while the joint is distracted. Once the external fixator is removed, the joint appears narrower on X-rays, but the function of the joint is improved. If the joint is really bad... the new KMI hemi implants are promising. The older implants popped out, or became useless in one way or another.... The gold standard for a bad rigidus is still fusion.
And with fusion, will I really be able to be active, do sports, and have normal gait. I have heard mixed things on this...some say running is no problem, other says I will need a rocker type shoe to walk normal! Plus i'm guessing much more strain on other joints in the toe.
This is a tough decision for me...but the pain is pretty much gone. I can only occassionally feel something (and it's not even really PAIN per se) on the bottom of the joint when I walk with a specific shoe. And it seems exercise is ok and even helps loosen things up. Could the xrays not be as accurate as the doctor thinks?
Sure I don't have the flexion but it doesn't seem to be a big deal to me.
Furthermore, i've been taking quality fish oil for about a month, working out pretty hard (running, stepper, weight lifting etc) and I don't really have any pain anymore! I guess it takes the inflamation down. So now i'm thinking about cancelling the surgery...but i'm not sure.
The only limitation I have right now is range of motion.
Any advice? ~ msamson11975
Keep it up! Delay surgery.
For range, try some light yoga, the sunrise sequence of 7 or so positions is good. 20 min worth, check out yoga.com
well I wish you could explain more, but I do understand that surgery is a last resort. I have been meaning to get my weight down some (i'm 210 presently, and want to get down to 200), so i'll do more cardio and circuit training instead of bodybuilding (weight lifting). It's weird...sometimes it feels great, but also at times when I walk I can feel it in the bottom of the joint, which leads me to believe that cheilectomy would do absolutely nothing since the pain isn't in the bone spurs (bunion). Even with the fusion, I think it hurts just if I put weight on it with the joint not even moving so the fusion might not do squat.
Right now i'm heavily leaning toward no surgery and just keep taking the fish oil with a clean diet (fruits/veggies) and rehab it naturally. But then I think about my future career goals and want this out of my mind permanently.
Today the pain while walking returned. Coincidence that I ran out of fish oil on the weekend? Or maybe due to doing some wind sprints yesterday. I am now starting to think that surgery is the only option. I have to get rid of this problem as it's holding back my life. I'm thinking i'll let the surgeon decide what surgery to do depending on the cartilage remaining - but leaning toward the Fusion as I don't want to have anymore discomfort. I'm also starting to pronate alot (my foot rolls in) and ball of foot is hurting more. This sucks!