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  1. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:


    Obviously an advocacy group. Trying to find who funds this
    "organization", I found this on their website:

    http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/subject/questions/199...

    That's a prime example of how, when you don't want to
    answer the question, you gotta keep it short; the more
    you write the more it seems that you're hiding something.

    Also, they are exonerating themselves of "hypocracy,"
    which AFAIK is a political system of government by
    hypocrites. Or maybe government by hypodermic needles?
    I must of slept through that week in Poli Sci class.

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    Ben

  2. On Jun 20, 3:00 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Also, they are exonerating themselves of "hypocracy,"
    which AFAIK is a political system of government by
    hypocrites.

    Rather broad definition. Accurate - still rather broad.

    R

  3. On Jun 20, 12:00 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    I do find it entertaining how you don't want to address the actual
    science but instead turn to motivation.

  4. Quoted message said:

    On Jun 20, 12:00 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    I do find it entertaining how you don't want to address the actual
    science but instead turn to motivation.

    Tom:

    When people do try to explain the science to you, you don't listen or, more
    likely, you just go into assault mode because it isn't what you want to
    hear.

    Ask yourself this though, in 1988, who was correct in predicting what
    global mean temperatures would do over the next 20 years, Idso or Hansen?
    Remember to state your answer in the form of a question.

    --
    Bill Asher

  5. Quoted message said:

    On Jun 20, 12:00 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    I do find it entertaining how you don't want to address the actual
    science but instead turn to motivation.

    I read some of the pdf but didn't find much science
    in it. There is a lot of cherry picking, more than
    I can go around refuting without getting paid by
    Exxon for my time. When I got to the point where
    they talk about how we need to increase CO2 concentration
    from 400 ppm to ~700 ppm in order to increase the
    efficiency of plant growth to feed the projected
    increased population, a great tiredness came over me.
    (I don't think carbon is the limiting factor in how
    much food we can grow. In a lot of places, it's water,
    and carbon-driven climate change is likely to make
    this worse rather than better in many of the poorest
    places on Earth.)

    Anyway, Tom, talking to you about science on RBR has been
    proven to be about as effective as quieting a squeaky
    door hinge by reading "Machinery's Handbook" to it.

    If you turn every conversation into a farrago of
    insults and distractions, you can expect people to
    stop trying to talk to you. Eventually, we'll even
    stop making fun of you, and then what will you do?

    Ben

  6. Quoted message said:

    When I got to the point where
    they talk about how we need to increase CO2 concentration
    from 400 ppm to ~700 ppm in order to increase the
    efficiency of plant growth to feed the projected
    increased population, a great tiredness came over me.

    And well it should. The number is wrong.

    http://tinyurl.com/37j3cu

    There is no such thing as a free, or even one available at 20%, 30%, 40%,
    even 50% below our already unbelievable low cost, lunch.

    --
    Bill Asher

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jun 20, 12:00 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    I do find it entertaining how you don't want to address the actual
    science but instead turn to motivation.

    I read some

    This is interesting especially when followed by:

    Quoted message said:

    of the pdf but didn't find much science
    in it. There is a lot of cherry picking

    You make yourself clear even to yourself.

  8. Quoted message said:


    That's a prime example of how, when you don't want to
    answer the question, you gotta keep it short; the more
    you write the more it seems that you're hiding something.

    Also, they are exonerating themselves of "hypocracy,"
    which AFAIK is a political system of government by
    hypocrites. Or maybe government by hypodermic needles?
    I must of slept through that week in Poli Sci class.

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    Ben

    Yeah, I know. I don't always trust them either, but that's another story.
    There's plenty of trash in the dental journals; sometimes they declare
    financial interest, sometimes they don't. Trash shouldn't be published.
    In this case, I have no idea if the original paper is trash. Certainly
    I don't give a rat's ass how CO2 Science "critiques" the paper.
    If I had the time and interest I'd read the original paper. Which I might.

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  9. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    Trash shouldn't be published.

    I'm going to put my trash in the burn barrel out back. To hell with
    AGW!!!

    I burn what I want to burn! I need to feel free.

  10. "Mark & Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:tJvei.3427$5h6.1810@trnddc05...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    That's a prime example of how, when you don't want to
    answer the question, you gotta keep it short; the more
    you write the more it seems that you're hiding something.

    Also, they are exonerating themselves of "hypocracy,"
    which AFAIK is a political system of government by
    hypocrites. Or maybe government by hypodermic needles?
    I must of slept through that week in Poli Sci class.

    By the way, most biology journals and Science and Nature
    now require the authors to declare any relevant financial
    interests.

    Ben

    Yeah, I know. I don't always trust them either, but that's another story.
    There's plenty of trash in the dental journals; sometimes they declare
    financial interest, sometimes they don't. Trash shouldn't be published.
    In this case, I have no idea if the original paper is trash. Certainly I
    don't give a rat's ass how CO2 Science "critiques" the paper.
    If I had the time and interest I'd read the original paper. Which I
    might.

    Instead of that just read this:
    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/comment/story.html?id=597d0677-2a05-47b4-b34f-b84068db11f4&p=4

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