Re: FYI - Tinypics

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

~patches~ said:

Here is the TOS for tinypics. If you have a problem with anyone
stealing your copyright protected pics as per DMCA [...]

Please consider different regulations in the 191 other nations of the
world. The Internet is not necessarily subject to US laws.

Patches isn't from the US, if that's what you mean.

nancy

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Please consider different regulations in the 191 other nations of the
world. The Internet is not necessarily subject to US laws.

Oh (really bad word deleted so as not to offend the more
sensitive among us)! NOW you've done it - you've clued her
in to the fact that this stuff goes beyond the borders of the U.S.,
and that some Albanian goat farmer might, this very second,
be misusing her pizza picture. (Horrors!)

Sigh...guess it's just more work for the lawyers....

Bob M.

Nancy Young said:

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

~patches~ said:

Here is the TOS for tinypics. If you have a problem with anyone
stealing your copyright protected pics as per DMCA [...]

Please consider different regulations in the 191 other nations of the
world. The Internet is not necessarily subject to US laws.

Patches isn't from the US, if that's what you mean.

nancy

There are International Copyright Laws and most of the free world
abides by them... but there is no legal recourse for posting another's
picture to usenet that has been posted previously, we would then all be
guilty of a crime everytime we quote a post with the link... you see no
one posted a pic, only a link.. There is absolutely no infringement of
copyright law by reposting a link previously posted, especially when
there was no accompaning admonishment not to by the original poster...
by posting the link the OP gave permission for anyone to post said
link, and for any purpose whatsoever.

~patches~ is not only mentally ill (subpolar), she is very stupid...
and naturally she's a big fat liar and a troublemaker... any
recognition she can get, even if negative recognition.

Sheldon

Jens Arne Maennig wrote:\

Quoted message said:

~patches~ said:

Here is the TOS for tinypics. If you have a problem with anyone
stealing your copyright protected pics as per DMCA [...]

Please consider different regulations in the 191 other nations of the
world. The Internet is not necessarily subject to US laws.

The copyright conventions are virtually universal, by treaty.

Pastorio

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Myers said:

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Please consider different regulations in the 191 other nations of the
world. The Internet is not necessarily subject to US laws.

Oh (really bad word deleted so as not to offend the more
sensitive among us)! NOW you've done it - you've clued her
in to the fact that this stuff goes beyond the borders of the U.S.,

As mentioned before (but maybe you didn't see it yet), Patches neither
lives nor posts in the US. I doubt she cooks in the US on a regular
basis either. As the old joke goes, "How do you tell whether somebody
is from the US or Canada? Just ask them this question!". People in the
US tend to think everything on this group has to do with the US. People
in Canada are *very* aware that we in the US have a lot of trouble
remembering that Canada even exists.

--
Dan Abel
[email hidden]
Petaluma, California, USA

Sheldon said:

There are International Copyright Laws and most of the free world
abides by them... but there is no legal recourse for posting another's
picture to usenet that has been posted previously, we would then all be
guilty of a crime everytime we quote a post with the link... you see no
one posted a pic, only a link.. There is absolutely no infringement of
copyright law by reposting a link previously posted, especially when
there was no accompaning admonishment not to by the original poster...
by posting the link the OP gave permission for anyone to post said
link, and for any purpose whatsoever.

I never saw the original pizza discussion, only a quote of the the post
in question from "James".

Was the picture downlaoded and then posted in a new location, or was
the link actually the same address that Patches originally posted?

It sounds like it is the same link, not a new address. So, if that is
the case, why is the photo still up, with patches waiting for its
removal? Can't you delete a photo if you are the one who uploaded it?
Is this service different from other photo posting services?

Quoted message said:

Sheldon said:

There are International Copyright Laws and most of the free world
abides by them... but there is no legal recourse for posting another's
picture to usenet that has been posted previously, we would then all be
guilty of a crime everytime we quote a post with the link... you see no
one posted a pic, only a link.. There is absolutely no infringement of
copyright law by reposting a link previously posted, especially when
there was no accompaning admonishment not to by the original poster...
by posting the link the OP gave permission for anyone to post said
link, and for any purpose whatsoever.

I never saw the original pizza discussion, only a quote of the the post
in question from "James".

Was the picture downlaoded and then posted in a new location, or was
the link actually the same address that Patches originally posted?

It sounds like it is the same link, not a new address. So, if that is
the case, why is the photo still up, with patches waiting for its
removal? Can't you delete a photo if you are the one who uploaded it?
Is this service different from other photo posting services?

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

There isn't an easy way to delete the pic that I can see. I've
contacted tinypic.

--
Theft of someone's intellectual property including digital images is
copyright infringement contrary to DMCA of 1998. There is a two faced
thief here who likes to harass others. Sarah Bennett is another thief
on rfc but worse. She steals pics then tries to sell them as her own.
Some here condone this behaviour. Shame on you!

~patches~ said:

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

The main difference being is that Sarah did it with a sense of humour, something
that some of us appreciate but you which you seem to be lacking.
Trust me Patches, you do yourself a great disservice by harping on this.

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

As mentioned before (but maybe you didn't see it yet), Patches neither
lives nor posts in the US.

No, you're right, I didn't see that mentioned until after
I'd posted. I guess I'd simply assumed she was a fellow USA-ian
from the apparent case of let's-get-really-bent-out-of-shape-over
-meaningless-stuff-and-threaten-to-sue-itis, which at least until
recently seemed to be a disease confined to the U.S. of A. It
saddens me to think that this malady may be afflicting those in
other countries now.

Quoted message said:

People
in Canada are *very* aware that we in the US have a lot of trouble
remembering that Canada even exists.

Granted, but please don't assume I have that problem. I'm very
aware of the existence of Canada. It's that big thing on the map
just north of us, isn't it? :-)

Bob M.

"~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
The original thief posted the link.

Ah - in that case, they're by no means a thief. If the
link/URL provided was simply the one YOU used to distribute
the picture in the first place, then YOU retain complete control
over your "intellectual property." Granted, it was not a nice thing
for someone else to CLAIM that the picture was theirs, but that's
hardly the same thing as actually copying the picture itslef and
distributing it under their own control. You have no more basis
for a claim of "thievery" than you would have if you placed ANY
picture or other content on public display, and then got annoyed
because a passerby pointed to it and said "See that? I made
that!" It's not true, but it's hardly copyright infringement. Copyright
infringement is all about the control of the use and distribution of
content - and you've already voluntarily given up some degree of
control over both by choosing to put the picture in a place where
it is readily accessible to the public. Bad choice on your part,
perhaps, but not "james'" fault, whoever that is.

Quoted message said:

There isn't an easy way to delete the pic that I can see. I've
contacted tinypic.

A further problem for your case, then - you apparently didn't
check out how much control of the property in question prior to
posting it, so it seems pretty clear you didn't care all THAT much
about it or had considered the possible consequences (distribution
to or by others) in advance. Pretty hard now to claim "but I
didn't MEAN for it to get out in public!"

Nope, I'm not a lawyer - but this one seems pretty obvious.

Bob M.

Dave Smith said:

~patches~ said:

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

The main difference being is that Sarah did it with a sense of humour, something
that some of us appreciate but you which you seem to be lacking.
Trust me Patches, you do yourself a great disservice by harping on this.

Another recipe from my breadmachine books sans my modifications. Use
the instructions for your breadmaker for order of ingredient addition.

White Rolls

1 1/4 c water
1 tbsp skim milk powder
2 tbsp shortening
2 tbsp sugar
1 1/2 tsp salt
3 1/4 c white flour
1 1/2 tsp yeast

Setting 8 - Specialty, dough
-divide into 12 equal pieces, shape into ball, brush with butter, allow
to rise about 20 min, bake 375 F until golden brown

--
Theft of someone's intellectual property including digital images is
copyright infringement contrary to DMCA of 1998. There is a two faced
thief here who likes to harass others. Sarah Bennett is another thief
on rfc but worse. She steals pics then tries to sell them as her own.
Some here condone this behaviour. Shame on you!

~patches~ said:

Quoted message said:

Sheldon said:

There are International Copyright Laws and most of the free world
abides by them... but there is no legal recourse for posting another's
picture to usenet that has been posted previously, we would then all be
guilty of a crime everytime we quote a post with the link... you see no
one posted a pic, only a link.. There is absolutely no infringement of
copyright law by reposting a link previously posted, especially when
there was no accompaning admonishment not to by the original poster...
by posting the link the OP gave permission for anyone to post said
link, and for any purpose whatsoever.

I never saw the original pizza discussion, only a quote of the the post
in question from "James".

Was the picture downlaoded and then posted in a new location, or was
the link actually the same address that Patches originally posted?

It sounds like it is the same link, not a new address. So, if that is
the case, why is the photo still up, with patches waiting for its
removal? Can't you delete a photo if you are the one who uploaded it?
Is this service different from other photo posting services?

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves
here.

There isn't an easy way to delete the pic that I can see. I've
contacted tinypic.

You should look more closely at the picture Sarah used...underneath it
actually has YOUR nick, email and that you posted the picture here....
She didn't say it was HER picture

Roberta (in VA)

~patches~ said:

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

Oh, man.... I missed way too much stuff! I tuned in *after* the [censored]
hit the fan and valiently tried to catch up, but even managed to miss
myself being accused of something I didn't do. Damn this flu bug.

sf
eyes shifting to both sides quickly
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

Dave Smith said:

The main difference being is that Sarah did it with a sense of humour, something
that some of us appreciate but you which you seem to be lacking.
Trust me Patches, you do yourself a great disservice by harping on this.

I think the posting that started her fit was a joke, too. Just too
indirect for her tiny little mind to understand.

She has done us a service by making it clear that we can skip all her
posts without losing anything rational. -aem

sf said:

~patches~ said:

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

Oh, man.... I missed way too much stuff! I tuned in *after* the [censored]
hit the fan and valiently tried to catch up, but even managed to miss
myself being accused of something I didn't do. Damn this flu bug.

Find the thread - it's hilarious! It even has a pic of the pizza on a
thong and on a dog T-shirt (my personal favorite).

We all have this flu thing too. I think I'm headed toward
pleurisy...and that ain't no small town in central Oregon...
-L.

Roberta said:

~patches~ said:

Quoted message said:

Sheldon wrote:

> There are International Copyright Laws and most of the free world
> abides by them... but there is no legal recourse for posting another's
> picture to usenet that has been posted previously, we would then all be
> guilty of a crime everytime we quote a post with the link... you see no
> one posted a pic, only a link.. There is absolutely no infringement of
> copyright law by reposting a link previously posted, especially when
> there was no accompaning admonishment not to by the original poster...
> by posting the link the OP gave permission for anyone to post said
> link, and for any purpose whatsoever.
>

I never saw the original pizza discussion, only a quote of the the post
in question from "James".

Was the picture downlaoded and then posted in a new location, or was
the link actually the same address that Patches originally posted?

It sounds like it is the same link, not a new address. So, if that is
the case, why is the photo still up, with patches waiting for its
removal? Can't you delete a photo if you are the one who uploaded it?
Is this service different from other photo posting services?

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves
here.

There isn't an easy way to delete the pic that I can see. I've
contacted tinypic.

You should look more closely at the picture Sarah used...underneath it
actually has YOUR nick, email and that you posted the picture here....
She didn't say it was HER picture

Roberta (in VA)

Another recipe from my breadmachin manual. Ingredients only sans my
modifications. Follow the instructions for your breadmaker as to order
of addition.

Mixed Fruit Bread

1 1/4 c water
1 tbsp skim milk powder
2 tbsp shorting
1 tsp salt
3 1/4 c white flour
1/4 c candied mixed fruit
1/4 tsp nutmeg
1 1/2 tsp yeast

Setting 1 - basic breads, large/medium crust

--
Theft of someone's intellectual property including digital images is
copyright infringement contrary to DMCA of 1998. There is a two faced
thief here who likes to harass others. Sarah Bennett is another thief
on rfc but worse. She steals pics then tries to sell them as her own.
Some here condone this behaviour. Shame on you!

sf said:

~patches~ said:

The original thief posted the link. Sarah Bennett has taken it a step
further by stealing the actual pic then uploading it to a website that
put the pic on t-shirts etc. to be sold. So there are now two thieves here.

Oh, man.... I missed way too much stuff! I tuned in *after* the [censored]
hit the fan and valiently tried to catch up, but even managed to miss
myself being accused of something I didn't do. Damn this flu bug.

sf
eyes shifting to both sides quickly

sf, you did nothing! Here's something that might help with your flu or
maybe just knock you out so you do feel it so much. I don't know where
we got this recipe. Steep a strong cup of tea. Add a heaping tbsp
honey and fresh squeezed lemon juice. Pour in a shot of rum. Curl up
on the couch and sip on the drink until you drift off. Hope you feel
better soon.

--
Theft of someone's intellectual property including digital images is
copyright infringement contrary to DMCA of 1998. There is a two faced
thief here who likes to harass others. Sarah Bennett is another thief
on rfc but worse. She steals pics then tries to sell them as her own.
Some here condone this behaviour. Shame on you!

Bob Myers said:

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

As mentioned before (but maybe you didn't see it yet),
Patches neither lives nor posts in the US.

No, you're right, I didn't see that mentioned until after
I'd posted. I guess I'd simply assumed she was a fellow USA-ian
from the apparent case of let's-get-really-bent-out-of-shape-over
-meaningless-stuff-and-threaten-to-sue-itis, which at least until
recently seemed to be a disease confined to the U.S. of A. It
saddens me to think that this malady may be afflicting those in
other countries now.

Quoted message said:

People
in Canada are *very* aware that we in the US have a lot of trouble
remembering that Canada even exists.

Granted, but please don't assume I have that problem. I'm very
aware of the existence of Canada. It's that big thing on the map
just north of us, isn't it? :-)

No, no, no. They're currently Territories (like Puerto Rico and Guam)
of the US of A. We'll grant them statehood as soon as they learn which
spelling system is correct.

The Ranger

sf said:

Oh, man.... I missed way too much stuff! I tuned in *after* the [censored]
hit the fan and valiently tried to catch up...

Don't fret. Judging by the principal's actions, it's bound to be
repeated. Even now, a bizarre kinda damage control is underway using
pointless bread baking machine recipes. Weird.

Take care, sf, and get well.

nb