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    james
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    Simon Proven said:
    James Annan said:

    Am I the only person to think that this latest hysteria over school


    food

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    is (almost) completely missing the point? Surely the recent


    reduction in

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    exercise levels is a much more important factor. Hence the


    relevance to

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    cycling, of course.

    I believe that Part of the problem with poor diet is that
    even if you can burn off the calories consumed, the quantity
    of empty calories displaces other dietary inputs which are
    necessary for good health.

    That may be part of the problem, but I bet it is a small part. Few
    children are actually suffering from malnutrition, they are just eating
    too much (relative to exercise levels, of course).

    To be fair, the govt announcement does mention exercise too. But from
    listening to the vox pops on R5, the dominant thrust seemed to be that
    schools just need to replace burgers and chips with tofu and aubergine
    salads, and all will be well. But schools provide about 170 meals per
    year, parents provide the other 900. If the latter are things like
    "chicken" nuggets and chips, then the children will probably skive off
    their tofu and aubergine salads anyway and pop out to the chippy
    instead.

    I bet that enforcing a no stopping zone within half a mile of the
    school
    gate and installing some decent cycle parking would do far more for the
    health of the pupils than any LEA's idea of "healthy eating" on a
    school
    budget - which would probably do little more than put the kids off
    healthy
    food for life.

    James

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  2. davek
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    james said:

    I bet that enforcing a no stopping zone within half a mile of the
    school
    gate and installing some decent cycle parking would...

    ....lead to lengthy editorials in the Daily Mail.

    d.

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  3. Simon Brooke
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    in message <[email hidden]>, james

    (') said:
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    I believe that Part of the problem with poor diet is that
    even if you can burn off the calories consumed, the quantity
    of empty calories displaces other dietary inputs which are
    necessary for good health.

    That may be part of the problem, but I bet it is a small part. Few
    children are actually suffering from malnutrition, they are just
    eating too much (relative to exercise levels, of course).

    My father, whose family were farmers and who grew up prior to the
    widespread introduction of farm tractors, used to talk about the diet
    eaten by farm people in his childhood. It was extraordinarily high
    calorie and particularly high in just the sorts of fats we're now told
    we shouldn't eat - a lot of lard and a lot of beef dripping, and in
    total (in his opinion) at least twice and probably three times the
    amount of calories in a typical modern diet. Many of his parents
    generation lived (and were healthy and active) into their eighties and
    nineties, so it can't have been that unhealthy.

    But the other side of the equation, of course, was that they did
    extremely hard physical work, and easily burned all that fat as energy.
    My father didn't remember anyone being overweight, and there are no
    overweight people in old family photographs.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; my other religion is Emacs

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  4. Simon Mason
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    But the other side of the equation, of course, was that they did
    extremely hard physical work, and easily burned all that fat as energy.
    My father didn't remember anyone being overweight, and there are no
    overweight people in old family photographs.

    I remember having to pay money at Hull Fair in the 1960's to see a fat lady
    in a booth and more to see one with tattoos. They were that rare.

    --
    Simon M.

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  5. Justin Case
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    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    But the other side of the equation, of course, was that they did
    extremely hard physical work, and easily burned all that fat as energy.
    My father didn't remember anyone being overweight, and there are no
    overweight people in old family photographs.

    I remember having to pay money at Hull Fair in the 1960's to see a fat


    lady

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    in a booth and more to see one with tattoos. They were that rare.

    Now there are dozens of fat, lazy, tattooed women of every age and fat,
    lazy, tattooed girls of every age on every street - and
    we don't have to pay anymore to see 'em........all free.

    I would willingly pay NOT to see flabby white flesh, tattooed or
    not.........Yuck........ excuse me,

    I've just been sick at the thought !!

    Must have got old..............Thank Gawd |!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Justin

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  6. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers
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    Now there are dozens of fat, lazy, tattooed women of every age and fat,
    lazy, tattooed girls of every age on every street - and
    we don't have to pay anymore to see 'em........all free.

    Drat, and here was me going to send him a portrait...

    Ye olde stereotype of overweight women rears its head once more. Note to Justin
    - not all of we women who are overweight are lazy. Just as the stereotype of
    all men named Justin have small [censored] is possibly not true either, but I could
    be wrong ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam--
    to get correct one remove fame & fortune
    h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$

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  7. Danny Colyer
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    james said:

    Few
    children are actually suffering from malnutrition, they are just eating
    too much (relative to exercise levels, of course).

    <pedant>
    If they are eating more than they need for their lifestyles (i.e.
    they're overnourished), then they are suffering from malnutrition.
    </pedant>

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

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  8. Justin Case
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    You're right! But how did you know that?
    Justin

    "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

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    Now there are dozens of fat, lazy, tattooed women of every age and fat,
    lazy, tattooed girls of every age on every street - and
    we don't have to pay anymore to see 'em........all free.

    Drat, and here was me going to send him a portrait...

    Ye olde stereotype of overweight women rears its head once more. Note to


    Justin

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    - not all of we women who are overweight are lazy. Just as the stereotype


    of

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    all men named Justin have small [censored] is possibly not true either, but I


    could

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    be wrong ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam--
    to get correct one remove fame & fortune
    h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$

    --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched


    off--

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  9. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers
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    You're right! But how did you know that?
    Justin

    Well Justin, there's this "exception that proves the rule" thing ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam--
    to get correct one remove fame & fortune
    h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$

    --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off--

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