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  1. Retro Bob said:

    Looking to fix an older, vintage alloy weinmann rim that is
    flat spotted.

    Years ago I remember a tool that clamped on the rim and worked like
    a gear puller to pull the flat section out. Are these still in use ?
    Any other tricks in use ?

    You're thinking of the Overland tool.

    Rumor has it that one might crack a hollow or thin walled
    rim with it but I've never lost one. It's tedious as it's
    used after disconnecting several spokes. It's got a lot of
    leverage so the inattentive operator might easily go too
    far. But for the occasional irreplaceable damaged rim what
    else can you do?

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  2. A Muzi said:
    Retro Bob said:

    Looking to fix an older, vintage alloy weinmann rim that is flat
    spotted. Years ago I remember a tool that clamped on the rim and
    worked like a gear puller to pull the flat section out. Are these
    still in use ? Any other tricks in use ?

    You're thinking of the Overland tool.

    Rumor has it that one might crack a hollow or thin walled rim with
    it but I've never lost one. It's tedious as it's used after
    disconnecting several spokes. It's got a lot of leverage so the
    inattentive operator might easily go too far. But for the
    occasional irreplaceable damaged rim what else can you do?

    That was the name of that tool! Didn't VAR make one like it, too?
    I've wanted one of those for years as it seems a bit more precise than
    the method Jobst described- loosening the spokes and hanging the rim
    over a 2x4 nailed to the joists in the garage and pulling. Effective,
    no doubt, but a bit more difficult to control.

  3. Tim McNamara said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Looking to fix an older, vintage alloy Weinmann rim that is flat
    spotted. Years ago I remember a tool that clamped on the rim and
    worked like a gear puller to pull the flat section out. Are these
    still in use ? Any other tricks in use ?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You're thinking of the Overland tool.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Rumor has it that one might crack a hollow or thin walled rim with
    it but I've never lost one. It's tedious as it's used after
    disconnecting several spokes. It's got a lot of leverage so the
    inattentive operator might easily go too far. But for the
    occasional irreplaceable damaged rim what else can you do?

    Quoted message said:

    That was the name of that tool! Didn't VAR make one like it, too?
    I've wanted one of those for years as it seems a bit more precise
    than the method Jobst described- loosening the spokes and hanging
    the rim over a 2x4 nailed to the joists in the garage and pulling.
    Effective, no doubt, but a bit more difficult to control.

    That method works but since doing that, a friend gave me a "Rim True"
    tool by Overland Inc. (Grand Rapids MI) that has a rubberized flat
    hook with a spoke nipple slot and a curved brace that fits a 700c rim.
    The hook is suspended from a large screw with a dumbbell nut to pull
    up through a broad gap in the middle of the rim brace. It's a nice
    device but the 2x4 works as well.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Retro Bob wrote:
    Looking to fix an older, vintage alloy weinmann rim that is flat
    spotted. Years ago I remember a tool that clamped on the rim and
    worked like a gear puller to pull the flat section out. Are these
    still in use ? Any other tricks in use ?

    Quoted message said:
    A Muzi said:

    You're thinking of the Overland tool.
    Rumor has it that one might crack a hollow or thin walled rim with
    it but I've never lost one. It's tedious as it's used after
    disconnecting several spokes. It's got a lot of leverage so the
    inattentive operator might easily go too far. But for the
    occasional irreplaceable damaged rim what else can you do?

    Tim McNamara said:

    That was the name of that tool! Didn't VAR make one like it, too?
    I've wanted one of those for years as it seems a bit more precise than
    the method Jobst described- loosening the spokes and hanging the rim
    over a 2x4 nailed to the joists in the garage and pulling. Effective,
    no doubt, but a bit more difficult to control.

    There is/was another guy called RimTrue. That if I recall
    was an adjustable set of rollers on a plate which pressed at
    various points. I never saw one in the flesh.

    I don't recall seeing anything like either one in the VAR
    book but I'm not the last word on that.

    Again, in a pretty high volume wheel shop I use that thing
    once every couple of years. Absolutely a specialized tool
    for a limited set of circumstances.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. Retro Bob said:

    Looking to fix an older, vintage alloy
    weinmann rim that is flat spotted. Years
    ago I remember a tool that clamped on
    the rim and worked like a gear puller to
    pull the flat section out. Are these still in
    use ? Any other tricks in use ?

    Other's have mentioned tools, here's the trick:

    http://geocities.com/czcorner/mac11.html

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  6. I once made a set of blocks, carved from oak, to fix flat spotted rims. It was a labor of love but they worked. One block filled the rim and matched the contour of the rim OD plus tire bed. The other was cut to match the inner profile. I used a combination of bits in my router and made a radius jig to match the diameter of the wheel. It took about an hour to make the jig and about 5 minutes of pounding to get the rim back in shape.

  7. before banging, cursing, and bending-rememeber re-trueing takes up
    lotsa wrong bend at low nipple torque levels. tightning the side's and
    loosen the flat spot, repeat repeat get 1/3 more pressure. the number
    of needed spokes narrows.
    then go to the opposite rim side and loosen. brong!
    less flat.

  8. "And of course, the rim is no good for anything other than getting you
    home"?
    encouraging words. do yawl use conti pads?
    and that's what said when i began jumping on it sandwiched tween two
    slabs of particle/formica board: but its now rrrrround!
    whaddya mean "roll it back and forth"?

  9. I once made a set of blocks, carved from oak, to fix flat spotted
    rims.

    what species oak?
    how long,as define/decsribe the situation before intolerable wear set
    in, did the blocks last?

  10. (g.daniels) Noted I said:

    "And of course, the rim is no good for
    anything other than getting you home"?
    encouraging words. do yawl use conti
    pads?

    Having no idea how extensive the damage to the rim would be as a result
    of either the initial blow or the repair, let alone the persnicketyness
    of the owner, I felt it best to err to the safe side.

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

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