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Re: Filth on the defensive.

iiiiDougiiii · 2006-12-23T08:16:58+00:00

"iiiiDougiiii" wrote > Liar. So directly accusing someone of being a "liar" (or a "hypocrite") isn't personal abuse then? You have directly accused *me* of being a "liar" and a "hypocrite" simply because I drive the vehicle which delivers provisions to the store from which *you* purchase them. Everybody loathes you Doug, and wishes you were dead. Take the hint. You exaggerate as usual. Only most of the motorists who infest this transport NG loath me because I dare to stand up to them. LOL, I loath you not because you stand up to anyone, indeed I think you'd probably be the first to stand down and run away to hide in a real argument/debate much as you do on usenet anyway, no, I detest you because you're a consummate liar and hypocrite who has little basis in fact and yet continues to berate others for things you have done and continue to do. You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my ground here while being subjected to personal abuse and threats of violence for daring to openly criticise the almighty car culture. There is no comparison with things I have done in the past and remedied and the harmful things you and your motoring chums continue to do on a daily basis NOW without the slightest conscience, indeed even with arrogance and pride in some cases. You really are the worst king of 'environmentalist' looney who doesn't really know what they're arguing against or about but appear to like doing it anyway just because it annoys others. As I am arguing against and about people like you it is crystal clear. Far from being the anarchist you complain to be your stated views show that you'd prefer to live in a dictatorship where the only things people could do were those which you condone. Whereas your kind of imposed car dictatorship on our public roads are an actual threat to the life and limb of the vulnerable as well as a major inconvenience to others. I wouldn't mourn your passing at all. Indeed were you on fire I wouldn't help to [censored] on you, I'd take the viewpoint that you really weren't a life worth saving. Attitude of a typical motorist, self-conditioned to violence and hatred. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net "The car, more of a toilet than a convenience".

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iiiiDougiiii
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23 December 2006, 08:16 UTC #1

The Caretaker said:
iiiiDougiiii said:
Knight Of The Road said:
"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Liar.
So directly accusing someone of being a "liar" (or a "hypocrite"😉 isn't
personal abuse then?
You have directly accused *me* of being a "liar" and a "hypocrite" simply
because I drive the vehicle which delivers provisions to the store from
which *you* purchase them.
Everybody loathes you Doug, and wishes you were dead. Take the hint.

You exaggerate as usual. Only most of the motorists who infest this
transport NG loath me because I dare to stand up to them.
LOL, I loath you not because you stand up to anyone, indeed I think
you'd probably be the first to stand down and run away to hide in a real
argument/debate much as you do on usenet anyway, no, I detest you
because you're a consummate liar and hypocrite who has little basis in
fact and yet continues to berate others for things you have done and
continue to do.

You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here while being subjected to personal abuse and threats of
violence for daring to openly criticise the almighty car culture.
There is no comparison with things I have done in the past and remedied
and the harmful things you and your motoring chums continue to do on a
daily basis NOW without the slightest conscience, indeed even with
arrogance and pride in some cases.
Quoted message said:

You really are the worst king of 'environmentalist' looney who doesn't
really know what they're arguing against or about but appear to like
doing it anyway just because it annoys others.

As I am arguing against and about people like you it is crystal clear.
Quoted message said:

Far from being the anarchist you complain to be your stated views show
that you'd prefer to live in a dictatorship where the only things people
could do were those which you condone.

Whereas your kind of imposed car dictatorship on our public roads are
an actual threat to the life and limb of the vulnerable as well as a
major inconvenience to others.
Quoted message said:
I wouldn't mourn your passing at all. Indeed were you on fire I wouldn't
help to [censored] on you, I'd take the viewpoint that you really weren't a
life worth saving.

Attitude of a typical motorist, self-conditioned to violence and
hatred.
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
"The car, more of a toilet than a convenience".

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Knight Of The Road
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23 December 2006, 08:22 UTC #2

"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?
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Regards, Vince.
A Trip to Brest http://tinyurl.com/w5k56 (New 22/12/06)

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iiiiDougiiii
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23 December 2006, 08:44 UTC #3

Knight Of The Road said:
"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?

It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.
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UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Cars are the main contributer to food miles.

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Adrian
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23 December 2006, 08:54 UTC #4

iiiiDougiiii ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?
Quoted message said:
It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.
What's difficult about "Yes" or "No"?

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Knight Of The Road
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23 December 2006, 09:14 UTC #5

"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.
It is the simplest question imaginable. Is that a photograph of you, or of
somebody else?
It is entirely on-topic, as it is directly relevant to your views that
others should not engage in unnecessary travel and cause pollution, since
the motorcyclist is riding an extremely polluting form of transport in a
fragile eco-system, many hundreds of miles from where he lives, which, if he
professed to hold environmentalist views would make him a liar and a
hypocrite.
So is it you?
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Regards, Vince.
A Trip to Brest http://tinyurl.com/w5k56 (New 22/12/06)

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Brimstone
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23 December 2006, 09:17 UTC #6

"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Knight Of The Road said:
"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?

It is not a simple question,
It's a perfectly simple question, is it you or not?
Quoted message said:
it is an off-topic excuse
Totally on topic, it's about a mode of transport and the user.
Quoted message said:
for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.
Glad that you recognise your major failing at last.

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Conor
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23 December 2006, 11:27 UTC #7

In article <[email hidden]>,
iiiiDougiiii says...
Quoted message said:

Knight Of The Road said:
"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?

It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.

It is a simple question.
--
Conor
"You're not married,you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart

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23 December 2006, 12:28 UTC #8

iiiiDougiiii said:
Whereas your kind of imposed car dictatorship on our public roads are
an actual threat to the life and limb of the vulnerable as well as a
major inconvenience to others.
Before cars were knocking about, what do you think roads were used for?
Quoted message said:
Attitude of a typical motorist, self-conditioned to violence and
hatred.
Prove them. You made the claims, you prove them.

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23 December 2006, 12:31 UTC #9

Adrian said:
iiiiDougiiii ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.
What's difficult about "Yes" or "No"?
It's got the potential to turn into a Jeremy Paxman vs Michael Howard
type thing.

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Clive Coleman.
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23 December 2006, 21:51 UTC #10

In message <[email hidden]>,
iiiiDougiiii <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted message said:
Attitude of a typical motorist, self-conditioned to violence and
hatred.

Ever looked in a mirror Doug? What do you see? A liar? Yes. A
hypocrite? Yes. Someone with an environmental conscious? No.
--
Clive.

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Clive Coleman.
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23 December 2006, 21:53 UTC #11

In message <[email hidden]>,
iiiiDougiiii <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted message said:
It is not a simple question, it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.

As was predicted by Mr. Firth. No answer. No change there then.
--
Clive.

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Phil Bradshaw
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23 December 2006, 23:30 UTC #12

iiiiDougiiii said:

Knight Of The Road said:
"iiiiDougiiii" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:
You miss the point completely. No surprise there then. If I ran away I
would be cowering somewhere on, say, a cycling NG. Instead I stand my
ground here
Well, perhaps, instead on running away from a simple question, you could
tell us whether that photograph of a motorcyclist in Morocco is of you?

It is not a simple question,
Yes or no would suffice. Simple.
Quoted message said:
it is an off-topic excuse for a tirade of
abuse coupled with deliberate misinformation as to my identity.

I rather think it is timely and wholly to the point.
This is uk.t after all.

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