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  1. Ozark Bicycle said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ryancycles aka [censored] "Recumbent Godfather" Ryan wrote:
    > My two cents worth!
    > I think it's a valid argument that head injuries are less likely on a
    > recumbent. I've never worn a helmet while riding a recumbent (or any
    > other type of bike for that matter.)
    > Since I've become a snowbird a couple of years ago I've been riding a
    > DF bike down in sunny Venice Fl. I've run into a couple of bike clubs
    > and was asked if I'd like to join, but helmets were mandantory. NO
    > thanks, one of the great pleasures of riding a bike to my mind is the
    > wind blowing through my non-existent hair. Could some one of the
    > helmet proponents explain to me why in Holland, which has more bikes
    > than any other country, no one wears a helmet? One would think that
    > with their semi-socialistic government everyone would be required to
    > wear helmets and body armor. Perhaps some common sense still exists
    > there.
    If you want to sell bicycle helmets, what better way than to start a fear
    campaign backed by an invalid study (the infamous and discredited
    Thompson, Rivara, Thompson)? The sad part is that the helmet fear campaign
    has turned off many potential cyclists, since it implies that cycling is a
    much more dangerous activity than it really is. Creditable studies have
    shown the fewer cyclists increases the danger for those who still ride, so
    the overall effect of the helmet fear/promotion campaign may well have
    been making cycling more dangerous in the US.


    Here is the indomitable Mr. Sherman proving yet once again that 2 + 2 = 5. I
    wish I could do these slight of hands, but I never acquired the knack. Maybe
    you have to go to an engineering school like he did in order to get to this
    state of bamboozlement.

    Sherman is just regurgitating the same old AHZ boilerplate BS. Sherman
    is incapable of independent thought.

    Still trying to attract customers with "0% attitude", Zarkie?

    Ozark Bicycle is incapable of not being jealous of those who get more
    respect than he does.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  2. Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile of
    dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    On Dec 19, 9:06 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > ryancycles aka [censored] "Recumbent Godfather" Ryan wrote:
    >> My two cents worth!
    >> I think it's a valid argument that head injuries are less likely on a
    >> recumbent. I've never worn a helmet while riding a recumbent (or any
    >> other type of bike for that matter.)
    >> Since I've become a snowbird a couple of years ago I've been riding a
    >> DF bike down in sunny Venice Fl. I've run into a couple of bike clubs
    >> and was asked if I'd like to join, but helmets were mandantory. NO
    >> thanks, one of the great pleasures of riding a bike to my mind is the
    >> wind blowing through my non-existent hair. Could some one of the
    >> helmet proponents explain to me why in Holland, which has more bikes
    >> than any other country, no one wears a helmet? One would think that
    >> with their semi-socialistic government everyone would be required to
    >> wear helmets and body armor. Perhaps some common sense still exists
    >> there.
    > If you want to sell bicycle helmets, what better way than to start a fear
    > campaign backed by an invalid study (the infamous and discredited
    > Thompson, Rivara, Thompson)? The sad part is that the helmet fear campaign
    > has turned off many potential cyclists, since it implies that cycling is a
    > much more dangerous activity than it really is. Creditable studies have
    > shown the fewer cyclists increases the danger for those who still ride, so
    > the overall effect of the helmet fear/promotion campaign may well have
    > been making cycling more dangerous in the US.
    Here is the indomitable Mr. Sherman proving yet once again that 2 + 2 = 5. I
    wish I could do these slight of hands, but I never acquired the knack. Maybe
    you have to go to an engineering school like he did in order to get to this
    state of bamboozlement.

    Quoted message said:

    Sherman is just regurgitating the same old AHZ boilerplate BS. Sherman
    is incapable of independent thought.

    Still trying to attract customers with "0% attitude", Zarkie?

    Ozark Bicycle is incapable of not being jealous of those who get more
    respect than he does.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  3. Ozark Bicycle said:

    Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile of
    dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  4. I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    Tom 'I wanna be like Jobst' Sherman said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile of
    dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  5. "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    Tom 'I wanna be like Jobst' Sherman said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile of
    dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter



    Dear OB,

    You have a store, eh? Schmuckness certainly isn't the way to get customers.
    Based on your recent posts, I predict a blow out sale just before your URL
    goes back on the block, and you move back in with mommy.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  6. gotbent said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    Quoted message said:
    Tom 'I wanna be like Jobst' Sherman said:

    Ozark Bicycle wrote:
    > Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile of
    > dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

    Dear OB,

    You have a store, eh? Schmuckness certainly isn't the way to get customers.
    Based on your recent posts, I predict a blow out sale just before your URL
    goes back on the block, and you move back in with mommy.

    Wow! See ya same time bext year, Getbent.

  7. "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    gotbent said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    Quoted message said:

    On Dec 19, 9:47 pm, Tom "I wanna be like Jobst" Sherman
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > Ozark Bicycle wrote:
    > > Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile
    > > of
    > > dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    Quoted message said:

    > I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    Quoted message said:

    > --
    > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    > "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when
    > temperature
    > differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    > excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

    Dear OB,

    You have a store, eh? Schmuckness certainly isn't the way to get
    customers.
    Based on your recent posts, I predict a blow out sale just before your
    URL
    goes back on the block, and you move back in with mommy.

    Wow! See ya same time bext year, Getbent.


    That's GOTBENT, you pathetic putz.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  8. gotbent said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    gotbent said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    > regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > On Dec 19, 9:47 pm, Tom "I wanna be like Jobst" Sherman
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
    >> > Sherman, the only thing which gets less respect than you is a pile
    >> > of
    >> > dogshit on the road, and even that is a close call. Clear enough?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> I see Zarkie is using Usenet well to attract potential customers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> --
    >> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    >> "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when
    >> temperature
    >> differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    >> excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dear OB,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You have a store, eh? Schmuckness certainly isn't the way to get
    customers.
    Based on your recent posts, I predict a blow out sale just before your
    URL
    goes back on the block, and you move back in with mommy.

    Quoted message said:

    Wow! See ya same time bext year, Getbent.

    That's GOTBENT, you pathetic putz.

    It's "GETBENT" to me, pudpuller.

  9. "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    You two need to get a room. There is obviously something deep going on
    between the two of you.

  10. Pat ? said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see you aren't disputing the amount of respect you get, you
    regurgitating, imitative, parroting little troll.

    You two need to get a room. There is obviously something deep going on
    between the two of you.

    Huh? "Ozark Bicycle" is the one who is being the Usenet stalker. He does
    more to discredit himself, than anyone else, with his gratuitous use of
    insults.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

  11. On Dec 21, 7:21 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    <snipped for clarity and brevity>

    Quoted message said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" is the one who is being the Usenet stalker.

    Sherman, I can't tell if you are simply a liar or if you are, as they
    say, "funny in the head".

    So, tell ya what, from this time forward, everytime you make one of
    your passive agressive snipes or trolls at me, I'll archive it and
    post the collection up on Google each week on Mondays. You can do the
    same every time you think I'm "stalking" you. We'll soon see where the
    truth lies, eh?

  12. Ozark Bicycle said:

    On Dec 21, 7:21 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    <snipped for clarity and brevity>

    Quoted message said:


    "Ozark Bicycle" is the one who is being the Usenet stalker.

    Sherman, I can't tell if you are simply a liar or if you are, as they
    say, "funny in the head".

    So, tell ya what, from this time forward, everytime you make one of
    your passive agressive snipes or trolls at me, I'll archive it and
    post the collection up on Google each week on Mondays. You can do the
    same every time you think I'm "stalking" you. We'll soon see where the
    truth lies, eh?

    [Yawn]

    How counter-productive on OB part. 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

  13. On Dec 21, 8:24 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    On Dec 21, 7:21 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    <snipped for clarity and brevity>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Ozark Bicycle" is the one who is being the Usenet stalker.

    Quoted message said:

    Sherman, I can't tell if you are simply a liar or if you are, as they
    say, "funny in the head".

    Quoted message said:

    So, tell ya what, from this time forward, everytime you make one of
    your passive agressive snipes or trolls at me, I'll archive it and
    post the collection up on Google each week on Mondays. You can do the
    same every time you think I'm "stalking" you. We'll soon see where the
    truth lies, eh?

    [Yawn]

    How counter-productive on OB part. 😉

    IOW, you are simply a liar. Thanks for the confirmation.

  14. Ozark Bicycle said:

    On Dec 21, 8:24 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    On Dec 21, 7:21 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    <snipped for clarity and brevity>
    > "Ozark Bicycle" is the one who is being the Usenet stalker.
    Sherman, I can't tell if you are simply a liar or if you are, as they
    say, "funny in the head".
    So, tell ya what, from this time forward, everytime you make one of
    your passive agressive snipes or trolls at me, I'll archive it and
    post the collection up on Google each week on Mondays. You can do the
    same every time you think I'm "stalking" you. We'll soon see where the
    truth lies, eh?


    [Yawn]

    How counter-productive on OB part. 😉

    IOW, you are simply a liar. Thanks for the confirmation.


    Little lacking in the logic/comprehension department?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

  15. Ozark Bicycle said:

    Sherman, I can't tell if you are simply a liar or if you are, as they
    say, "funny in the head".

    So, tell ya what, from this time forward, everytime you make one of
    your passive agressive snipes or trolls at me, I'll archive it and
    post the collection up on Google each week on Mondays. You can do the
    same every time you think I'm "stalking" you. We'll soon see where the
    truth lies, eh?

    There's a treat for the group this holiday season!

    SMH

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