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  1. "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.angelfire.com/pq/altacalifassur/EPEDA.html

    El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán

    El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán
    In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud
    historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our
    territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern
    land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land
    of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the
    sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our
    responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

    We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks, which are justly
    called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our
    hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the
    fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do
    not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent.

    Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people
    whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho"
    who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our
    hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our
    mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before
    the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the
    bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we
    are Aztlán.

    For La Raza to do. Fuera de La Raza nada.

    Program

    El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán sets the theme that the Chicanos (La Raza
    de Bronze) must use their nationalism as the key or common denominator
    for mass mobilization and organization. Once we are committed to the
    idea and philosophy of El Plan de Aztlán, we can only conclude that
    social, economic, cultural, and political independence is the only road
    to total liberation from oppression, exploitation, and racism. Our
    struggle then must be for the control of our barrios, campos, pueblos,
    lands, our economy, our culture, and our political life. El Plan
    commits all levels of Chicano society - the barrio, the campo, the
    ranchero, the writer, the teacher, the worker, the professional - to La
    Causa.

    Nationalism

    Nationalism as the key to organization transcends all religious,
    political, class, and economic factions or boundaries. Nationalism is
    the common denominator that all members of La Raza can agree upon.

    Organizational Goals

    1. UNITY in the thinking of our people concerning the barrios, the
    pueblo, the campo, the land, the poor, the middle class, the
    professional-all committed to the liberation of La Raza.

    2. ECONOMY: Economic control of our lives and our communities can only
    come about by driving the exploiter out of our communities, our
    pueblos, and our lands and by controlling and developing our own
    talents, sweat, and resources. Cultural background and values which
    ignore materialism and embrace humanism will contribute to the act of
    cooperative buying and the distribution of resources and production to
    sustain an economic base for healthy growth and development Lands
    rightfully ours will be fought for and defended. Land and realty
    ownership will be acquired by the community for the people's welfare.
    Economic ties of responsibility must be secured by nationalism and the
    Chicano defense units.

    3. EDUCATION must be relative to our people, i.e., history, culture,
    bilingual education, contributions, etc. Community control of our
    schools, our teachers, our administrators, our counselors, and our
    programs.

    4. INSTITUTIONS shall serve our people by providing the service
    necessary for a full life and their welfare on the basis of
    restitution, not handouts or beggar's crumbs. Restitution for past
    economic slavery, political exploitation, ethnic and cultural
    psychological destruction and denial of civil and human rights.
    Institutions in our community which do not serve the people have no
    place in the community. The institutions belong to the people.

    5. SELF-DEFENSE of the community must rely on the combined strength of
    the people. The front line defense will come from the barrios, the
    campos, the pueblos, and the ranchitos. Their involvement as protectors
    of their people will be given respect and dignity. They in turn offer
    their responsibility and their lives for their people. Those who place
    themselves in the front ranks for their people do so out of love and
    carnalismo. Those institutions which are fattened by our brothers to
    provide employment and political pork barrels for the gringo will do so
    only as acts of liberation and for La Causa. For the very young, there
    will no longer be acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts.

    6. CULTURAL values of our people strengthen our identity and the moral
    backbone of the movement. Our culture unites and educates the family of
    La Raza towards liberation with one heart and one mind. We must insure
    that our writers, poets, musicians, and artists produce literature and
    art that is appealing to our people and relates to our revolutionary
    culture. Our cultural values of life, family, and home will serve as a
    powerful weapon to defeat the gringo dollar value system and encourage
    the process of love and brotherhood.

    7. POLITICAL LIBERATION can only come through independent action on our
    part, since the two-party system is the same animal with two heads that
    feed from the same trough. Where we are a majority, we will control;
    where we are a minority, we will represent a pressure group;
    nationally, we will represent one party: La Familia de La Raza!

    Action

    1. Awareness and distribution of El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán.
    Presented at every meeting, demonstration, confrontation, courthouse,
    institution, administration, church, school, tree, building, car, and
    every place of human existence.

    2. September 16, on the birthdate of Mexican Independence, a national
    walk-out by all Chicanos of all colleges and schools to be sustained
    until the complete revision of the educational system: its policy
    makers, administration, its curriculum, and its personnel to meet the
    needs of our community.

    3. Self-Defense against the occupying forces of the oppressors at every
    school, every available man, woman, and child.

    4. Community nationalization and organization of all Chicanos: El Plan
    Espiritual de Aztlán.

    5. Economic program to drive the exploiter out of our community and a
    welding together of our people's combined resources to control their
    own production through cooperative effort.

    6. Creation of an independent local, regional, and national political
    party.

    A nation autonomous and free-culturally, socially, economically, and
    politically- will make its own decisions on the usage of our lands, the
    taxation of our goods, the utilization of our bodies for war, the
    determination of justice (reward and punishment), and the profit of our
    sweat.

    El Plan de Aztlán is the plan of liberation!
    end

    This is a declaration of war!

    :/

  2. arminius said:

    "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    El Plan de Aztlán is the plan of liberation!
    end

    This is a declaration of war!

    Good.... then you won't mind if we throw you out

    Mark

  3. dont be a chinga cabro'n

  4. Si Habla? You mamma matacone. You meirda cabasa.

  5. This is a declaration of war!

    Kind of like being threatened by a tiny third world country, who
    doesn't even have the technical or physical capability of reaching your
    soil.

  6. "arminius" <richard [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    http://www.angelfire.com/pq/altacalifassur/EPEDA.html

    El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán

    Too much peyote, man.

    Reassembler

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    This is a declaration of war!
    Kind of like being threatened by a tiny third world country, who
    doesn't even have the technical or physical capability of reaching your
    soil.

    Except for the part about there already being 20M of them here illegally-
    much less the disaffected indigenous population.
    We have 20M young, strong, highly motivated people who've already committed
    crimes just to get here. They have no intention of assimilating or
    participating in the culture; of becoming 'Americans'.
    We're now the primary source for hard currency in Mexico- more than oil,
    more than agriculture, more than mining, or tourism. The money they earn
    goes South and doesn't enter our economy at all.

    Chas

  8. "arminius" <richard [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    El Plan de Aztlán is the plan of liberation!
    This is a declaration of war!

    Don't you think you should wait to get running water and indoor plumbing
    before declaring war on someone.

  9. "arminius" <richard [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    http://www.angelfire.com/pq/altacalifassur/EPEDA.html

    El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán

    see you at the chac mool

  10. Except for the part about there already being 20M of them here
    illegally-
    much less the disaffected indigenous population.
    We have 20M young, strong, highly motivated people who've already
    committed
    crimes just to get here. They have no intention of assimilating or
    participating in the culture; of becoming 'Americans'.
    We're now the primary source for hard currency in Mexico- more than
    oil,
    more than agriculture, more than mining, or tourism. The money they
    earn
    goes South and doesn't enter our economy at all.

    WTF are you "on"? Angel dust? Moron...

  11. Don't you think you should wait to get running water and indoor
    plumbing
    before declaring war on someone.

    Well no, they'll just take over our digs and use ours.

  12. Chas said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    This is a declaration of war!
    Kind of like being threatened by a tiny third world country, who
    doesn't even have the technical or physical capability of reaching your
    soil.

    Except for the part about there already being 20M of them here illegally-
    much less the disaffected indigenous population.
    We have 20M young, strong, highly motivated people who've already committed
    crimes just to get here.

    Nothing wrong with breaking unjust laws.

    Quoted message said:

    They have no intention of assimilating or
    participating in the culture; of becoming 'Americans'.

    Sure they do; hell, Mexico's in America, you know?

    Quoted message said:

    We're now the primary source for hard currency in Mexico- more than oil,
    more than agriculture, more than mining, or tourism. The money they earn
    goes South and doesn't enter our economy at all.

    Chas

    Hugely profitable for us, of course; we get way more than we pay for.

  13. "T" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We have 20M young, strong, highly motivated people who've already
    committed crimes just to get here.


    Nothing wrong with breaking unjust laws.

    Which 'unjust laws' might those be?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They have no intention of assimilating or participating in the culture;
    of becoming 'Americans'.


    Sure they do; hell, Mexico's in America, you know?

    Try to cross the border in the other direction and see how the Federales
    treat you.
    And up here, they can be third generation and still flying the Mexican flag-
    they hate us, and there's no reason to tolerate that either.

    Quoted message said:

    Hugely profitable for us, of course; we get way more than we pay for.

    Hogwash- this is the land of milk and honey for them, and they pick our
    pockets every day. It costs us *billions* a year to support them; take care
    of them, provide resources for them- an entire infrastructure they don't
    participate in at all.

    Chas

  14. Chas said:


    Hogwash- this is the land of milk and honey for them, and they pick our
    pockets every day. It costs us *billions* a year to support them; take care
    of them, provide resources for them- an entire infrastructure they don't
    participate in at all.

    Chas


    I treated two this last three months at the local hospital. Not a penny
    from either. Sent a bill to one, who did work and said, please take your
    time and pay what you can- it was not that much.

    I never got a reply, let alone a penny.

    The other was a wino- gangrene big toe. I took care of him for a week in
    the hospital, got him all the resources, alone with the social services,
    and he was [censored] when I didn't amputate. I told him if he had a million
    buck, I'd wait 3 weeks for his gangrene to demarcate, then amputate...
    besides he needed to get control of his alcoholism etc.

    He [censored] about being illegal, not getting the same treatment blah blah
    ..... which cost the state 10 grand I'm sure.

    Mark

  15. Quoted message said:

    "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We are a bronze people with a bronze culture<<

    Good, then stop sucking up all of our GREEN cash.

  16. "Mark Goldberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Chas said:


    Hogwash- this is the land of milk and honey for them, and they pick our
    pockets every day. It costs us *billions* a year to support them; take


    care

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of them, provide resources for them- an entire infrastructure they don't
    participate in at all.

    Chas


    I treated two this last three months at the local hospital. Not a penny
    from either. Sent a bill to one, who did work and said, please take your
    time and pay what you can- it was not that much.

    I never got a reply, let alone a penny.

    The other was a wino- gangrene big toe. I took care of him for a week in
    the hospital, got him all the resources, alone with the social services,
    and he was [censored] when I didn't amputate. I told him if he had a million
    buck, I'd wait 3 weeks for his gangrene to demarcate, then amputate...
    besides he needed to get control of his alcoholism etc.

    He [censored] about being illegal, not getting the same treatment blah blah
    .... which cost the state 10 grand I'm sure.


    Air drop him in Columbia.

  17. Good - now start with your own country [censored]. Start walking south.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chas said:

    "T" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We have 20M young, strong, highly motivated people who've already
    committed crimes just to get here.


    Nothing wrong with breaking unjust laws.

    Which 'unjust laws' might those be?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They have no intention of assimilating or participating in the culture;
    of becoming 'Americans'.


    Sure they do; hell, Mexico's in America, you know?

    Try to cross the border in the other direction and see how the Federales
    treat you.
    And up here, they can be third generation and still flying the Mexican flag-
    they hate us, and there's no reason to tolerate that either.

    Quoted message said:

    Hugely profitable for us, of course; we get way more than we pay for.

    Hogwash- this is the land of milk and honey for them, and they pick our
    pockets every day. It costs us *billions* a year to support them; take care
    of them, provide resources for them- an entire infrastructure they don't
    participate in at all.

    Chas

    "As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million
    or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the
    system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

    "While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety
    of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is
    striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus --
    the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes
    and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by
    illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social
    Security Administration's projections."

    NYT, 4/5/2005

  19. "tjab" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million
    or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the
    system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

    The most common complaint about employers of illegals is their failure to
    pay for the benefits their workers consume, or are entitled to; workmen's
    comp, SS obligations, health care benefits, retirement,......

    Quoted message said:

    "While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety
    of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is
    striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus --
    the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes
    and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by
    illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social
    Security Administration's projections."

    Unfortunately, that observation fails to take into account the vast sums
    used by illegals in the context of health care, free food, subsidized
    business loans, credit access, subsidized housing/education and social
    services, and the flow of money Southwards instead of back into the local
    economy.
    And the only reason SS benefits is the evasion of taxes and obligations by
    both the illegals and their employers.
    Hardly a point in favor of taking on their burden.

    Chas

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chas said:

    "tjab" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million
    or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the
    system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

    The most common complaint about employers of illegals is their failure to
    pay for the benefits their workers consume, or are entitled to; workmen's
    comp, SS obligations, health care benefits, retirement,......

    Quoted message said:

    "While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety
    of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is
    striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus --
    the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes
    and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by
    illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social
    Security Administration's projections."

    Unfortunately, that observation fails to take into account the vast sums
    used by illegals in the context of health care, free food, subsidized
    business loans, credit access, subsidized housing/education and social
    services, and the flow of money Southwards instead of back into the local
    economy.

    $7 billion?

    Quoted message said:

    And the only reason SS benefits is the evasion of taxes and obligations by
    both the illegals and their employers.

    Read again. SS benefits because the taxes are paid but the benefits will
    never be collected.

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