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  1. philc said:

    hello all,

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

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    Quoted message said:
    philc said:

    hello all,

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

  3. sycochkn said:

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

    This sounds good, too, but it might be better if the toast is white
    bread (high-glycemic index for fast digestion and absorption). The
    Vitamin C in o.j. should replenish that lost through sweat. Two more
    pieces of toast -- carbs -- afterwards help restore muscle glycogen.

    You should probably still get some (more) protein in there, though,
    even though you sound like you're "only" a runner.

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    sycochkn said:

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

    This sounds good, too, but it might be better if the toast is white
    bread (high-glycemic index for fast digestion and absorption). The
    Vitamin C in o.j. should replenish that lost through sweat. Two more
    pieces of toast -- carbs -- afterwards help restore muscle glycogen.

    You should probably still get some (more) protein in there, though,
    even though you sound like you're "only" a runner.

    You have the lactose in the milk and the sucrose in the juice. I do not eat
    white bread. Actually I am a walker working on endurance and the moment.
    Next month I start working on speed. I do about 4 miles every other day.

    Bob

  5. Prisoner at War said:
    philc said:

    hello all,

    Quoted message said:

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    Quoted message said:

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

    Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
    failure for others.

    Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
    do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
    on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

    So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
    getting the run in.

  6. Quoted message said:

    Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
    failure for others.

    True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
    the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
    should work for...many!

    Quoted message said:

    Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
    do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
    on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

    And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
    training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
    may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
    food.

    Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!

    Quoted message said:

    So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
    getting the run in.

    It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
    train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
    an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

  7. sycochkn said:

    You have the lactose in the milk and the sucrose in the juice. I do not eat
    white bread. Actually I am a walker working on endurance and the moment.
    Next month I start working on speed. I do about 4 miles every other day.

    Bob

    Ah, a walker!

    Yes, I'd agree that milk, juice, and some toast would be adequate for
    you! =)

  8. On Aug 17, 10:55 am, Prisoner at War <[email hidden]>

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    Quoted message said:

    Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
    failure for others.

    True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
    the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
    should work for...many!

    With that premise then many of the serious runners that I know don't
    really want to eat much ( if anything ) if they are going to run
    "early".

    Most ( well many ) of us really have enough calories in our system
    from the day before to deal well with some exercise.

    If you are a diabetic or prone to blood sugar level problems etc of
    course that's a whole different situation probably.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
    do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
    on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

    And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
    training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
    may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
    food.

    Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!

    I rarely run less than 7 or 8.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
    getting the run in.

    It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
    train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
    an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

    I wasn't aware that the Army provided any significant relevant
    approach toward obtaining holistic views of training.

    I was more under the impression that you picked up a backpack, a
    rifle, put on your boots and started running until they told you that
    you could stop.

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    philc said:

    hello all,

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

    I hope that you are joking.

    -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair, modest,
    submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral
    designations and honors" - Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

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    On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > hello all,
    >
    > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
    >
    > TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

    I hope that you are joking.

    me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
    yesterdays food. Butter is better

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    -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
    and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
    modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
    attains moral designations and honors" -
    Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

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    > On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> hello all,
    >>
    >> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    >> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    >> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    >> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    >> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    >> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
    >>
    >> TIA
    >
    >
    >
    > Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
    >
    > Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
    >

    I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
    more pieces of whole wheat toast.

    Bob

    I hope that you are joking.

    me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
    yesterdays food. Butter is better

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    -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
    and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
    modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
    attains moral designations and honors" -
    Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

    There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
    Made with canola oil.

    Bob

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    >> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>> hello all,
    >>>
    >>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
    >>> first
    >>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    >>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    >>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    >>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    >>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
    >>>
    >>> TIA
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
    >>
    >> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
    >>
    >
    > I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    > glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat
    > 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
    >
    > Bob
    >

    I hope that you are joking.

    me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
    yesterdays food. Butter is better

    Quoted message said:


    -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
    and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
    modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
    attains moral designations and honors" -
    Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

    There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
    Made with canola oil.

    Yes you are right - the ones made with canola oil have no transfats

    Quoted message said:


    Bob

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    >> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>> hello all,
    >>>
    >>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
    >>> first
    >>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    >>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    >>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    >>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    >>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
    >>>
    >>> TIA
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
    >>
    >> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
    >>
    >
    > I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
    > glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat
    > 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
    >
    > Bob
    >

    I hope that you are joking.

    me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
    yesterdays food. Butter is better

    Quoted message said:


    -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
    and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
    modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
    attains moral designations and honors" -
    Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

    There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
    Made with canola oil.

    There is a debate about canola oil as well - I would check into it
    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcanola3.htm

    Quoted message said:


    Bob

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    >>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>> hello all,
    >>>>
    >>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
    >>>> first
    >>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    >>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend
    >>>> getting
    >>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    >>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    >>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
    >>>>
    >>>> TIA
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
    >>>
    >>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
    >>>
    >>
    >> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine,
    >> 1 glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I
    >> eat 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
    >>
    >> Bob
    >>
    >
    > I hope that you are joking.
    >

    me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
    yesterdays food. Butter is better

    >
    > -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
    > and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
    > modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
    > attains moral designations and honors" -
    > Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
    >

    There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
    Made with canola oil.

    There is a debate about canola oil as well - I would check into it
    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcanola3.htm

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    Bob


    I have chosen canola and extra virgin olive oil for cooking and dressings
    because the have the higest non saturated vs saturated fat ratio. I very
    seldom fry foods.

    Bob

  15. Quoted message said:

    With that premise then many of the serious runners that I know don't
    really want to eat much ( if anything ) if they are going to run
    "early".

    Most ( well many ) of us really have enough calories in our system
    from the day before to deal well with some exercise.

    Indeed -- you runners can have an almost diametrically opposite
    training program than weight-lifters and bodybuilders!

    Quoted message said:

    I rarely run less than 7 or 8.

    Damn, I haven't ran one of those in years! Those are fun, yes. I
    wish they don't interfere with strength and mass gains, though, 'cause
    I'm much more into weight-lifting nowadays, and prolonged cardio is
    supposed to sap into that.

    Quoted message said:

    I wasn't aware that the Army provided any significant relevant
    approach toward obtaining holistic views of training.

    They don't exactly hold classes on it, but it does inform, at the
    doctrinal level, their P.T. program.

    What's weird is that they still do sit-ups, unlike the Marines and Air
    Force -- yes, Air Force -- who have gone over to crunches.

    Quoted message said:

    I was more under the impression that you picked up a backpack, a
    rifle, put on your boots and started running until they told you that
    you could stop.

    That, too. =)

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    I rarely run less than 7 or 8.

    Damn, I haven't ran one of those in years!

    Obviously.


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    Quoted message said:

    There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
    Made with canola oil.

    Yes you are right - the ones made with canola oil have no transfats

    How about olive oil? There's a margarine I prefer that's made from that.
    Disclaimer: total noob who's just been cycle commuting to work and wants to
    burn off the belly.

  18. Prisoner at War said:
    philc said:

    hello all,

    Quoted message said:

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    Quoted message said:

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    BS! Wake up to one cup of coffee, two pieces of buttered cornbread, an
    hour later hit the road with a glass of gatorade in you. Nothing else
    needed!

  19. Prisoner at War said:
    philc said:

    hello all,

    Quoted message said:

    i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
    thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
    food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
    up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
    waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
    weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

    Quoted message said:

    TIA

    Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

    Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

    where to get the book?
    i interested......reply me soon....

  20. On Aug 17, 10:55 pm, Prisoner at War <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
    failure for others.

    True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
    the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
    should work for...many!

    Quoted message said:

    Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
    do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
    on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

    And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
    training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
    may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
    food.

    Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!

    Quoted message said:

    So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
    getting the run in.

    It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
    train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
    an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

    please reply me anything, as soon as you can.......i'm a new
    user....just testing.....

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