Re: doing research on your doctor

On 01 Apr 2004 03:51:20 GMT, [email hidden] (DEBBEE1023)

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<< > Interestingly, when I was on disability, it was due to low platelets (400,

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that's four hundred, under 1000), >>

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Normal platelet counts are 150-400 x 10 9 per liter. You are saying
your platelet count was normal ("400"😉. If that is the case, it would
probably NOT be a good enough reason to be granted disability. >>

Platelets are measured normal from being 140K to 400K. Mine was 400, (under a
thousand).....which is not a normal platelet count, which I explained in the
first part of my post, and is considered "dangerous", and therefore, the bunk
that you posted as truth, is indeed misrepresenting the "facts". For someone
that is a nurse, you sure don't have a clue, do you?

It is you who is clueless as well as being a liar. AFAIK there has
NEVER been a person alive who had a platelet count of 400/LITER!!!!.
You are such a pathologic liar.

I would encourage anyone who believes this liar to do their own
research on platelet counts and see what I mean. This is the same
person who claimed she set off metal detectors at airport due to all
the metals floating in her bloodstream. Lord have mercy.

So tell us Debbee, how did they treat your low platelet count. How did
you get it to rise??

Aloha,

Rich
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The best defense to logic is ignorance

<< You are such a pathologic liar. >>

Sorry, pal, but you are very very wrong. I was hospitalized, and getting
transfusions....I know exactly what my platelet count was because I was getting
my blood drawn every day. (and I have hard to find veins). The transfusions
didn't work well, because I was sensitive to the latex tubing, and until a
doctor I had given some information to did some actual research at Kaiser, and
found out what I was stating was true, (and he got an award for it), no one
believed that I could actually taste and smell the tubing. One remedy was to
take the package of tubing out of the bag in the hallway (not near me), and
then give me the transfusion.

<< I would encourage anyone who believes this liar to do their own
research on platelet counts and see what I mean. This is the same
person who claimed she set off metal detectors at airport due to all
the metals floating in her bloodstream. Lord have mercy.

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God, forgive Rich, as he knows *nothing* about what he is talking about and
should just shut up when he doesn't know something, instead of making it up....

<< So tell us Debbee, how did they treat your low platelet count. How did
you get it to rise?? >>

Not with prednisone.....and by the way, Rich, I used "alternative
medicine".....something you and your buddies cannot fathom... And it was
discovered that chemicals (double blind testing) reduced my platelet
count.....and before you go off on a tangent that this isn't true, there have
been many studies about this, and unfortunately, the Medical journals that
"conventional" medicine has available amazingly do not have that
information......isn't that a pity?

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

[email hidden] (DEBBEE1023) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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<< > Interestingly, when I was on disability, it was due to low platelets (400,

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that's four hundred, under 1000), >>

<<
Normal platelet counts are 150-400 x 10 9 per liter. You are saying
your platelet count was normal ("400"😉. If that is the case, it would
probably NOT be a good enough reason to be granted disability. >>

Platelets are measured normal from being 140K to 400K. Mine was 400, (under a
thousand).....which is not a normal platelet count, which I explained in the
first part of my post, and is considered "dangerous", and therefore, the bunk
that you posted as truth, is indeed misrepresenting the "facts". For someone
that is a nurse, you sure don't have a clue, do you?

Obviously it would be YOU who is without a clue DEBBEE, as evidenced
by your ignorance of the following:

"PLT (Platelet Count)
Platelets are involved in blood clotting and bleeding. Normal range
varies between laboratories but is usually 150,000 - 400,000/ cmm.
This result may also be expressed as simple numbers, 150-400. An
increase in platelet count is can be seen with malignancy, blood
diseases, or rheumatoid arthritis. Low counts may be seen in blood
diseases, infections, and as the result of certain medications."

[The above information comes from the Yale University School of
Medicine. Lab reports commonly refer to platelet counts using simple
numbers.]

So you are saying that your platelet count was 400, not 400 x 10 9 per
liter??? NAAAAAH. According to multiple sources of information,
platelet levels <50,000 commonly result in spontaneous hemorrhaging of
the mucus membranes as well as intracranial & GI bleeding. Such
levels of platelets (commonly 20,000 - 80,000) were found in people
suffering from dengue fever -- who were bleeding everywhere, often
profusely. A level of *400* would be incomaptible with life, DEBBEE.
If it were true, you wouldn't have received disabilty benefits, your
family would've collected death benefits.

Had you claimed your platelet level was 40,000 (definitely considered
cause for great concern), your story would've been a possibility.
Your insistence that it was *400* says you did a haphazard research
job when creating this tale. Not surprising......

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My platelet count has been back to normal 140K plus....which when it returned,
I went back to work...actually when it hit 90K I went back to work.

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<< Not even close, DEBBEE -- it isn't a "violation" of *anything*. Mark
isn't your physician. Therefore, there are no "patient's rights"
involved. >>

Anyone's health problem is no one's business but their own.

You've repeatedly posted your stories here & elsewhere on the internet
for cryin' out loud, you twit! You've brought your business into a
public arena -- anybody can discuss it. If you don't like that
reality, keep it private. You didn't. Tough.

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In fact, in many
of the hospitals and clinics around the country are signs that are posted that
request that health care professionals refrain from discussing the health of
any patient.

Once again, Mark is not your MD. You are not his patient. He is free
to comment on anything you post here. You seem to be unable to
understand that health care professionals can discuss any damn thing
they want about people who aren't their patients. Doctors, nurses,
lab techs, X-ray technicians -- are free to discuss their opinions
about you, me, & anyone else here that they don't provide professional
services to. I'm not prohibited by any law or any standard of ethics
from posting my opinions about you & any of the posts you make. Mark
isn't either -- ditto for any health care professional who hasn't
provided services for you as a patient. Unless you are terminally
stupid, you should be able to understand this.......

Michele,

Obviously, you take me for someone who cares what you think.....I'm looking at
the medical reports right there, and the lab tests....and obviously you aren't.
You can spew all you want...in fact, you remind me a lot of a geyser in
Yellowstone...Old Faithful.....a lot of hot air, and steamy when you get called
on the table for obviously something you really don't know a thing about...my
medical reports.

Like I said before, I could care less if you wake up in the morning, and I
could care less about what you write about...I just envision "Old Faithful",
and how sad your life must really be....putting people down to make yourself
feel important. Whoopee, Michele!!

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<< You are such a pathologic liar. >>

Sorry, pal, but you are very very wrong. I was hospitalized, and getting
transfusions....I know exactly what my platelet count was because I was

getting

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my blood drawn every day. (and I have hard to find veins).

Just like your hard to find journalistic skills.

Nice job of showing how Debbee lied. Of course, Jan "Double Standard" Drew
will remain silent on this.

"Michele" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<< > Interestingly, when I was on disability, it was due to low

platelets (400,

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that's four hundred, under 1000), >>

<<
Normal platelet counts are 150-400 x 10 9 per liter. You are saying
your platelet count was normal ("400"😉. If that is the case, it would
probably NOT be a good enough reason to be granted disability. >>

Platelets are measured normal from being 140K to 400K. Mine was 400,

(under a

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thousand).....which is not a normal platelet count, which I explained in

the

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first part of my post, and is considered "dangerous", and therefore, the

bunk

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that you posted as truth, is indeed misrepresenting the "facts". For

someone

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that is a nurse, you sure don't have a clue, do you?

Obviously it would be YOU who is without a clue DEBBEE, as evidenced
by your ignorance of the following:

"PLT (Platelet Count)
Platelets are involved in blood clotting and bleeding. Normal range
varies between laboratories but is usually 150,000 - 400,000/ cmm.
This result may also be expressed as simple numbers, 150-400. An
increase in platelet count is can be seen with malignancy, blood
diseases, or rheumatoid arthritis. Low counts may be seen in blood
diseases, infections, and as the result of certain medications."

[The above information comes from the Yale University School of
Medicine. Lab reports commonly refer to platelet counts using simple
numbers.]

So you are saying that your platelet count was 400, not 400 x 10 9 per
liter??? NAAAAAH. According to multiple sources of information,
platelet levels <50,000 commonly result in spontaneous hemorrhaging of
the mucus membranes as well as intracranial & GI bleeding. Such
levels of platelets (commonly 20,000 - 80,000) were found in people
suffering from dengue fever -- who were bleeding everywhere, often
profusely. A level of *400* would be incomaptible with life, DEBBEE.
If it were true, you wouldn't have received disabilty benefits, your
family would've collected death benefits.

Had you claimed your platelet level was 40,000 (definitely considered
cause for great concern), your story would've been a possibility.
Your insistence that it was *400* says you did a haphazard research
job when creating this tale. Not surprising......

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My platelet count has been back to normal 140K plus....which when it

returned,

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I went back to work...actually when it hit 90K I went back to work.

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<< Not even close, DEBBEE -- it isn't a "violation" of *anything*. Mark
isn't your physician. Therefore, there are no "patient's rights"
involved. >>

Anyone's health problem is no one's business but their own.

You've repeatedly posted your stories here & elsewhere on the internet
for cryin' out loud, you twit! You've brought your business into a
public arena -- anybody can discuss it. If you don't like that
reality, keep it private. You didn't. Tough.

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In fact, in many
of the hospitals and clinics around the country are signs that are

posted that

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request that health care professionals refrain from discussing the

health of

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any patient.

Once again, Mark is not your MD. You are not his patient. He is free
to comment on anything you post here. You seem to be unable to
understand that health care professionals can discuss any damn thing
they want about people who aren't their patients. Doctors, nurses,
lab techs, X-ray technicians -- are free to discuss their opinions
about you, me, & anyone else here that they don't provide professional
services to. I'm not prohibited by any law or any standard of ethics
from posting my opinions about you & any of the posts you make. Mark
isn't either -- ditto for any health care professional who hasn't
provided services for you as a patient. Unless you are terminally
stupid, you should be able to understand this.......

"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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Michele,

Obviously, you take me for someone who cares what you think.....I'm

looking at

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the medical reports right there, and the lab tests....and obviously you

aren't.

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You can spew all you want...in fact, you remind me a lot of a geyser in
Yellowstone...Old Faithful.....a lot of hot air, and steamy when you get

called

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on the table for obviously something you really don't know a thing

about...my

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medical reports.

Boy-oh-boy...a lot of steam for being caught in a lie. Michele nailed you
good ths time.

Yuck, yuck, yuck!

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Like I said before, I could care less if you wake up in the morning, and I
could care less about what you write about...I just envision "Old

Faithful",

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and how sad your life must really be....putting people down to make

yourself

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feel important. Whoopee, Michele!!

Jan "Double Standard" Drew says it is always wrong to belittle and will ill
on others.

[email hidden] (DEBBEE1023) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

<< > Interestingly, when I was on disability, it was due to low platelets (400,

Quoted message said:

that's four hundred, under 1000), >>

<<
Normal platelet counts are 150-400 x 10 9 per liter. You are saying
your platelet count was normal ("400"😉. If that is the case, it would
probably NOT be a good enough reason to be granted disability. >>

Platelets are measured normal from being 140K to 400K. Mine was 400, (under a
thousand).....which is not a normal platelet count, which I explained in the
first part of my post, and is considered "dangerous", and therefore, the bunk
that you posted as truth, is indeed misrepresenting the "facts". For someone
that is a nurse, you sure don't have a clue, do you?

That would be YOU without a clue, DEBBEE. You are obviously ignorant
of the following:

"PLT (Platelet Count)
Platelets are involved in blood clotting and bleeding. Normal range
varies between laboratories but is usually 150,000 - 400,000/ cmm.
This result may also be expressed as simple numbers, 150-400. An
increase in platelet count is can be seen with malignancy, blood
diseases, or rheumatoid arthritis. Low counts may be seen in blood
diseases, infections, and as the result of certain medications."

[The above information is from Yale University Medical School. Lab
reports commonly express platelet counts in simple numbers.]

Your claim of having a platelet count of "400" is incompatible with
life. Patients with counts of 10,000 to 80,000 commonly have
intracranial & GI bleeding. Those suffering with extremely low counts
(<10,000) are often surgical cases (splenectomies). Acute illnesses
such as Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever present with higher counts than you
say you had! You'd do better if you researched your stories a bit
better.

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My platelet count has been back to normal 140K plus....which when it returned,
I went back to work...actually when it hit 90K I went back to work.

<< Not even close, DEBBEE -- it isn't a "violation" of *anything*. Mark
isn't your physician. Therefore, there are no "patient's rights"
involved. >>

Anyone's health problem is no one's business but their own.

You presented information about your health problems in a public
forum. There is no legal or ethical prohibition WRT anybody
discussing what YOU have made public. If you don't want your business
discussed, keep it private.

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In fact, in many
of the hospitals and clinics around the country are signs that are posted that
request that health care professionals refrain from discussing the health of
any patient.

Once again, as you are plainly impaired when it comes to comprehending
the written word:

Mark isn't your doctor. You aren't his patient. Patient
confidentiality only applies to patients the health care professional
serves. I can discuss any patient that I have no connection with as a
nurse. I can also discuss patients with whom I've dealt as a nurse,
provided I do not reveal information that would identify the specific
person (primarily info like their name, address, etc.). [Since MOST
people are patients at one time or another, your misguided "fact"
would mean that health care professionals couldn't discuss anyone's
health. Another false claim of yours.]

You need to research hematologic values & what patient confidentiality
actually means before making up the B.S. you post, DEBBEE. Not much
of a researcher or journalist, are ya? <G>

[email hidden] (DEBBEE1023) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Michele,

Obviously, you take me for someone who cares what you think.....I'm looking at
the medical reports right there, and the lab tests....and obviously you aren't.

The lab test results of "400" are plainly the expression in simple
numbers, exactly as I cited, you twit.

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You can spew all you want...in fact, you remind me a lot of a geyser in
Yellowstone...Old Faithful.....a lot of hot air, and steamy when you get called
on the table for obviously something you really don't know a thing about...my
medical reports.

Blah, blah, blah -- your inability to respond to the information I
cited is noted as an admission that you are (once again) lying,
DEBBEE. An actual platelet count of 400 would certainly not allow you
to simply stay at home, sitting on your ignorant, lazy ass. It's
incompatible with life, moron. Thank goodness your lies are obvious
enough that they can easily be shown for what they are -- [censored].

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Like I said before, I could care less if you wake up in the morning, and I
could care less about what you write about...I just envision "Old Faithful",
and how sad your life must really be....putting people down to make yourself
feel important. Whoopee, Michele!!

If telling the truth puts YOU down, DEBBEE, well that's a shame.
Telling the truth shouldn't be a problem for an honest person. Oh,
wait -- you're NOT an honest person. Gee, I guess that the truth
would put YOU down. Tought [censored].

Come up with better lies, hon. You're not very good at this & it
shows.

[email hidden] (DEBBEE1023) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Gee, I must've missed this one:

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<< You are such a pathologic liar. >>

Sorry, pal, but you are very very wrong. I was hospitalized, and getting
transfusions....I know exactly what my platelet count was because I was getting
my blood drawn every day. (and I have hard to find veins). The transfusions
didn't work well, because I was sensitive to the latex tubing, and until a
doctor I had given some information to did some actual research at Kaiser, and
found out what I was stating was true, (and he got an award for it), no one
believed that I could actually taste and smell the tubing. One remedy was to
take the package of tubing out of the bag in the hallway (not near me), and
then give me the transfusion.

Latex tubing for blood transfusions? Oooohkaaaayyy..... And opening
the package elsewhere would make any difference to a patient with
latex sensitivity how??

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<< I would encourage anyone who believes this liar to do their own
research on platelet counts and see what I mean. This is the same
person who claimed she set off metal detectors at airport due to all
the metals floating in her bloodstream. Lord have mercy.

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God, forgive Rich, as he knows *nothing* about what he is talking about and
should just shut up when he doesn't know something, instead of making it up....

Claiming a platelet count of literally 400 would be a case of making
things up.

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<< So tell us Debbee, how did they treat your low platelet count. How did
you get it to rise?? >>

Not with prednisone.....and by the way, Rich, I used "alternative
medicine".....something you and your buddies cannot fathom... And it was
discovered that chemicals (double blind testing) reduced my platelet
count.....and before you go off on a tangent that this isn't true, there have
been many studies about this, and unfortunately, the Medical journals that
"conventional" medicine has available amazingly do not have that
information......isn't that a pity?

Not surprisingly, another inaccuracy. Low platelet counts can be
caused by a myriad of things, including certain chemicals -- &
conventional MD's are well aware of this. Calling blood transfusions
"alternative" would be another inaccuracy. Of course these claims
pale in comparison to insisting one's platelet count was actually 400.

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[email hidden] (DEBBEE1023) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
(and I have hard to find veins).

Maybe if you lost some weight they would able to find your veins more
easily. YOur veins are likely hidden behind all that fat.

Aloha,

Rich
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The best defense to logic is ignorance

Who really cares what any of you think....this ng is such a joke anyways....and
most of the sock puppets in here are really beyond pathetic....

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).