Re: DIY electrical work

MartinM said:

Trevor Barton wrote:
I

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remeber being appalled that household goods was supplied with no

mains

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plug when we first arrived here (UK, from Oz, 20 years ago). Not

onlty

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was it a PITA but the thought of every Tom, [censored] and Granny wiring

their

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own plugs onto their TV was chilling!

if it was only 20 years ago you wouldn't remember That's Life
(quasi-consumerist Esther Rantzen Richard Stilgoe et al vehicle BBC
show)

Not remember Esther Rancid? Eeeh, lad, gerrahtivit (guess what county
we've lived in these last 20 years). She was on the TV till well after
we got here. I'd actually have to admit to both watching and liking the
show, at least for the first couple of series we saw. I wouldn't watch
it if you paid me these days, though :-)

--
Trevor Barton

Trevor Barton said:

MartinM said:

Trevor Barton wrote:
I

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remeber being appalled that household goods was supplied with no

mains

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plug when we first arrived here (UK, from Oz, 20 years ago). Not

onlty

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was it a PITA but the thought of every Tom, [censored] and Granny wiring

their

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own plugs onto their TV was chilling!

if it was only 20 years ago you wouldn't remember That's Life
(quasi-consumerist Esther Rantzen Richard Stilgoe et al vehicle BBC
show)

Not remember Esther Rancid? Eeeh, lad, gerrahtivit (guess what

county

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we've lived in these last 20 years). She was on the TV till well

after

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we got here. I'd actually have to admit to both watching and liking

the

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show, at least for the first couple of series we saw. I wouldn't

watch

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it if you paid me these days, though :-)

They had another regular feature in the early editions; heap of the
week, when some nobody would bring on an item of junk they had bought
and had bad customer service with to generally embarrass the
manufacturers; one of the 6th formers in my school had a Lambretta
scooter that was unfixable after 9 months, they made it into a musical
instrument. My favourite was the Bush TV that ended up on a firing
range.

MartinM said:

one edition they went round the streets with a big plug and 3 coloured
wires to get the Great British Public to wire it up- results were
scary, and not just from the old lady with the brown hat!

Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously wrongly-wired
plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with a big sticker stating
"This wiring can seriously damage your health".

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

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MartinM said:

one edition they went round the streets with a big plug and 3 coloured
wires to get the Great British Public to wire it up- results were
scary, and not just from the old lady with the brown hat!

Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously wrongly-wired
plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with a big sticker stating
"This wiring can seriously damage your health".

With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can now
see that sticker:
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Braggins

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MartinM said:

one edition they went round the streets with a big plug and 3 coloured
wires to get the Great British Public to wire it up- results were
scary, and not just from the old lady with the brown hat!

Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously wrongly-wired
plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with a big sticker stating
"This wiring can seriously damage your health".

With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can now
see that sticker:
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

Is there a before the sticker version?

Sara said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Braggins

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MartinM wrote:

> one edition they went round the streets with a big plug and 3
> coloured wires to get the Great British Public to wire it up-
> results were scary, and not just from the old lady with the brown
> hat!

Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously
wrongly-wired plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with
a big sticker stating "This wiring can seriously damage your
health".

With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can now
see that sticker:
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

Is there a before the sticker version?

There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers which, if
my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing fit of the mards,
may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

Dave Larrington said:

Sara said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan

Braggins

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In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Larrington

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> MartinM wrote:
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>> one edition they went round the streets with a big plug and 3
>> coloured wires to get the Great British Public to wire it up-
>> results were scary, and not just from the old lady with the

brown

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>> hat!
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> Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's

"PXR5"

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> collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously
> wrongly-wired plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it

with

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> a big sticker stating "This wiring can seriously damage your
> health".

With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can

now

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see that sticker:

http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

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Is there a before the sticker version?

There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers

which, if

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my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing fit of the

mards,

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may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

On the subject of LP sleeves there was one by Boxer which featured an
unclad lady on the front with an arm and a boxing glove covering her
modesty. According to the NME she refused to have the glove
superimposed on later in case the original photo ever got out, so they
made someone lie on the ground with his arm sticking up in the right
place. She even refused to let him look up so he had to lie in a box or
something. Strange as on the back she was completely in the buff ;-)

here you go;
(advisory)
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=283419

MartinM said:

On the subject of LP sleeves there was one by Boxer which featured an
unclad lady on the front with an arm and a boxing glove covering her
modesty. According to the NME she refused to have the glove
superimposed on later in case the original photo ever got out, so they
made someone lie on the ground with his arm sticking up in the right
place. She even refused to let him look up so he had to lie in a box
or something. Strange as on the back she was completely in the buff

She'd clearly never heard the rule which states that bands whose names end
in "er" are Doomed (Foreigner being the exception which tests etc. etc.).

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Larrington

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There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers which, if
my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing fit of the mards,
may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

Ta :-)

In article <[email hidden]>,

MartinM said:

On the subject of LP sleeves there was one by Boxer which featured an
unclad lady on the front with an arm and a boxing glove covering her
modesty. According to the NME she refused to have the glove
superimposed on later in case the original photo ever got out, so they
made someone lie on the ground with his arm sticking up in the right
place. She even refused to let him look up so he had to lie in a box or
something. Strange as on the back she was completely in the buff ;-)

here you go;
(advisory)
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=283419

How odd - you'd think they'd have just got a nude model, wouldn't you?

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(Foreigner being the exception which tests etc. etc.).

Going quite clearly off-topic, and there /are/ other groups where one
could discuss the merits (or otherwise) of 80s soft rockers....

NO!!

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Sara said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Braggins

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In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Larrington wrote:
>
> Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
> collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously
> wrongly-wired plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with
> a big sticker stating "This wiring can seriously damage your
> health".

With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can now
see that sticker:
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

Is there a before the sticker version?

There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers which, if
my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing fit of the mards,
may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

In the meantime
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/front.jpg
strongly implies a yellow-and-green wire connected to live, blue connected
to earth, and brownish-red (at least on my monitor here, presumably it was
a standard brown to start with) to neutral.

On something with a supposedly earthed case, that could indeed easily
seriously damage your health.

Alan Braggins said:

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>>Aging hippies will no doubt remember the cover of Hawkwind's "PXR5"
>>collection of ditties, which carried a picture of a seriously
>>wrongly-wired plug. Charisma Records were obliged to cover it with
>>a big sticker stating "This wiring can seriously damage your
>>health".
>
>With the wonders of the Interthingy, even non-aging hippies can now
>see that sticker:
>http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/back.jpg

Is there a before the sticker version?

There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers which, if
my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing fit of the mards,
may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

In the meantime
http://www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/HAWKWIND/pxr5/front.jpg
strongly implies a yellow-and-green wire connected to live, blue connected
to earth, and brownish-red (at least on my monitor here, presumably it was
a standard brown to start with) to neutral.

On something with a supposedly earthed case, that could indeed easily
seriously damage your health.

There was no sticker on the LP when first released.
The wire on the neutral terminal is very red with not a hint of brown
and the warning at the bottom of the picture reads:
H.M. Govt. Health Dept' WARNING:
THIS WIRING CAN
SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH.

There is no cable grip on the plug.
There really was not any danger as mains cables have never been
available in red/blue/green-yellow.

--
Eiron.

MartinM said:

Seems a common theme, sell a no hope outfit's first album by making a a rude
or shocking sleeve. Picture and coloured vinyl discs seemed to take over
this function in the late 70's

Chumbawamba was hardly a no hope outfit, even before they signed up with
EMI for Tubthumper. Nor was Anarchy their first album. I think it was
the first one I heard, and it's still my favourite, but
<URL:http://www.chumba.com/_backcat2.htm> lists 6 albums released before
Anarchy. And that's excluding Jesus H Christ, which was never actually
released, but which I have a copy of.

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

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MartinM said:

Seems a common theme, sell a no hope outfit's first album by making a a

rude

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or shocking sleeve. Picture and coloured vinyl discs seemed to take over
this function in the late 70's

Chumbawamba was hardly a no hope outfit, even before they signed up with
EMI for Tubthumper.

I must say Tubthumping is the only thing I have ever heard. BTW does the
album version have the chorus "Kissing the night away"?
Peaches by the Stranglers also had a clean radio version, which was never
released (apart from on a rarities CD) so anyone who bought the 7 inch also
got the rude version.

Sara said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Larrington

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There's a post-sticker-removal one on a shelf in Larrington Towers
which, if my scanner may be persuaded to recover from its ongoing
fit of the mards, may appear in digital form by tomorrow...

Ta :-)

By the miracle of Babbage-Science, we bring you:

<URL: http://legslarry.8bit.co.uk/BikeStull/PXR5.jpg>

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

MartinM said:

"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Chumbawamba was hardly a no hope outfit, even before they signed up with
EMI for Tubthumper.

I must say Tubthumping is the only thing I have ever heard.

They once, with various collaborators, recorded an album of 101 songs,
some very short, about sport under the name Sportchestra. It's good
because it celebrates fellrunning---a couple of the band are regular
fell runners. It also mentions cycling:

"""
30. Mountain Biking

There's pedal bikes and motor bikes
And now they're riding mountain bikes
Up and down and out of town
Over, under, through, around
I ride my little bicycle, I ride it to the top
No red lights or traffic signs to tell me when to stop
There's racing bikes and motor bikes
And now they're riding mountain bikes
Up and down and out of town
Over, under, through, around

56. Changing Gears

From the deepest to the highest
Battling for the yellow vest
Changing gears rapidly
Ten seconds to change a wheel
King of the Mountains
Queen of the flats
Sprinting for the line
Then ready to collapse
Up! Up! Up!
The simplicity of the wheel
Has created the bike
On which you don't need to win
To make it fun
So don't get knackered
Take it slow
Don't worry about the vest
Just enjoy the view
"""

I expect they're better with the tunes.

Colin

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:05:57 -0000, "Dave Larrington"
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<URL: http://legslarry.8bit.co.uk/BikeStull/PXR5.jpg>

Aha! The Acme Fuse Blower[tm]

Guy
--
"then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

Colin Blackburn said:

I expect they're better with the tunes.

Having suffered my way through a Chumbawumba concert once, I doubt it
very much! ;-)

Jon